Bruffalo Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 2 minutes ago, ***** said: God I hope hochuli isn’t reffing our eagles game again. If I recall correctly, he swung about 30 points to the eagles against us a few years ago with bad calls. And it’s hard to win when the ref gives your opponent 30 points He's about as close to a perfect example of referee bias as you get in the NFL. He's the only referee team that Allen has a negative W-L record with. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Drake Maye goes 5 for 12 for 42 yards with a INT and 3 bad sacks in the 2nd half, but he blames the officials lol. Thats amazing Same thing on the Pats* message board. 42 pages of people bitching about the refs 1 1 Quote
Steptide Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said: also, turning your head around is not a thing in the rules that helps determine if Pi or not. So many fans assume that it is... Maybe not, but they're trying to make this argument that the Pats defender was playing the ball, give me a break. They say tre's interception shoulda been dpi, but on that play, both players WERE playing for the ball 1 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 What I don't like about the whining is the insinuation that if no holds are called on the Bills the officiating is bad (never mind that he was wrong and a hold was called). He is setting the tone or expectation that every reffing crew should find at least one hold on the Bills or something is wrong - no example or particular situation - just a general, if no hold is called the refs did a poor job. 1 Quote
waterglass Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 Lost a lot of respect for Vrabel with this. The day after a loss he is pointing the finger at the officials instead of at himself and his team for blowing a 21 point lead. And these weren't even particularly controversial calls. I also lost all respect for this guy. I thought he was a great coach but hes actually a loser after hearing about his ongoing bitching. I also read two articles from two New England Patriots Sports Reporters. In my opinion they must be the most corrupt reporters on the face of the earth. On the Coleman interference they used a screen shot picture that didnt have the player tugging on Colemans jersey. Even Josh Allen could see the holding. It wasnt minor as the tug in my opinion watching it on replay held Colemans progress to the ball. Hes the story link https://985thesportshub.com/2025/12/14/youve-got-to-let-us-play-patriots-sound-off-on-controversial-penalties/ In that same link they also complained about the Khalil Shakir interference. Same exact penalty was called against Buffalo versus the Chiefs in last years Championship game. One reporter wrote that the flag "came out late" The hell it did as on replay the flag came out while the ball was still in the air as the defensive back, ran into Shakir. It wasnt even close in my opinion. So I read two stories that go on as the facts to remain in the public arena forever as gospel truth as it happened. Well both were not written as an opinion piece, they were an absolute misrepresentation of the facts and as to what happened. I never realized that the Sports reporters in New England were that corrupted. Then again the Patriots never cheat. Well, birds of a feather flock together. 6 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: What I don't like about the whining is the insinuation that if no holds are called on the Bills the officiating is bad (never mind that he was wrong and a hold was called). He is setting the tone or expectation that every reffing crew should find at least one hold on the Bills or something is wrong - no example or particular situation - just a general, if no hold is called the refs did a poor job. No mention of the hold on their 2nd half misdirection run for a touchdown. I saw one of our D linemen jersey held around the stomach as he was right near the runner before the runner did a 180. 2 Quote
Mod_Squad_Reject Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 I generally liked Vrabel, but come on coach, let’s not talk about blown or missed calls. That door swings both ways, unfortunately this just makes him look like a whinny simp. Quote
ScotSHO Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 I love that posters here have just now lost respect for this goof. He works the refs all game, every game. Same garbage in TENN. He's super annoying and a drag on the spirit of the game. He spends 2:1 time talking to refs vs. his own team. 2 1 Quote
Mighty Taco Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 Luckily for me, I never had respect for him or their OC who has the most punchable face in the NFL. 1 Quote
eball Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Does he seriously sit with those whiney babies alongside him every week and agree New England is the bestest and everyone else smells? Can't imagine Belichick did that. It's nauseating as they sit there with their homer takes and kiss his a$$. Gawd, I hate Baaaahzzton. 1 Quote
skibum Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 This guy played for the Pats in the Tuck Rule game. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 I listened to this spot this morning (live in NE). I did not take it as whining and I thought it was interesting he mentioned the Bills lead the lead in holding penalties. His take on that is that is by design, he is probably right. The Chiefs do this in the playoffs on defense, dare the officials to call penalties. Quote
Mark Vader Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 3 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: Someone should ask Mike Vrabel how he feels about Vedarian Lowe getting away with a blatant hands to the face on Groot, right in front of the Referee. This was a critical third and 3 on the drive into the half that they ended up getting 3 points out of. This was a direct violation of Rule 12 sections 1-2 illegal use of hands/facemask. watch the play....Lowe's lefthand goes right to groots face and pushes it up and he just leaves it there the whole time. Should have been third and thirteen. Funny how Vrable just missed this one! This missed call resulted directly in points for New England. This happened twice. I saw Groot take another hands to the face, and there was no penalty called. 1 Quote
blacklabel Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 Kinda always thought Vrabel was a doofus, yesterday solidified it for me, tho. That schmuck running down the sideline to try and mark where a punt went out. Just reminded me of some kinda goody two shoes dweeb in high school. He's all like, "Ope, yessir Mr. Official, I seent it, it went out right here! Yessir, right here where I have my big stupid foot! Aren't I just the bestest lil' helper?" Go get shoved in a locker, nerd. 1 2 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 This reminds me so much of mahomes…I’ve always thought vrabel was a punchable-face meathead but had some level of begrudging respect for him. He absolutely lost all that the way he has been handling this loss though. with mahomes it was the offensive Offside whining that did it for me. Never looked at him the same way again Quote
Don Otreply Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 Poor baby, whiny little itch, lol Quote
Nuncha Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: Drake Maye goes 5 for 12 for 42 yards with a INT and 3 bad sacks in the 2nd half, but he blames the officials lol. Thats amazing Should have been 2 ints had Poyer not dropped the ball that hit him in the gut. By the way, why does Vrabel always look like he has to poop? Edited December 15, 2025 by Nuncha 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 16 minutes ago, blacklabel said: Kinda always thought Vrabel was a doofus, yesterday solidified it for me, tho. That schmuck running down the sideline to try and mark where a punt went out. Just reminded me of some kinda goody two shoes dweeb in high school. He's all like, "Ope, yessir Mr. Official, I seent it, it went out right here! Yessir, right here where I have my big stupid foot! Aren't I just the bestest lil' helper?" Go get shoved in a locker, nerd. I'm pretty sure vrable was the one shoving nerds in lockers Quote
Neo Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 The SpyGate, DeflateGate, franchise worrying about rules. Oh, the irony. Quote
billykay Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: Oh and Vrabel is wrong - the Bills DID have an offensive hold called, which wiped out a TD. I guess Vrabel doesn't remember it because our QB managed to overcome it and his QB couldn't overcome s***. That holding penalty was BS. our guy simply overpowered the D player and put him into the ground. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, billykay said: That holding penalty was BS. our guy simply overpowered the D player and put him into the ground. That will get called 100% of the time in the NFL That's not a pancake.. that will get called every single time Edited December 15, 2025 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
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