So why was Diggs traded, again?

[oldmanfan]

Josh was done with his nonsense.  No way Beane takes that kind of cap hit without Josh on board.

[Casey D]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Josh was done with his nonsense.  No way Beane takes that kind of cap hit without Josh on board.

Agree, it was necessary for Josh's mental health and leadership of this team.  Diggs has a pattern, he starts as the great teammate and then over times wears out his welcome.  He was a godsend his first couple of years, as he was in Minnesota.  He is still in his honeymoon period with the Pats-- that Diggs is awesome.  But then...

 

And notwithstanding all the issues with the WR room, the offense has been prolific without him by any objective standard.  Would it be more prolific with the good Diggs-- almost certainly.  But for Buffalo that ship has long sailed.

[Low Positive]

I’m not a ‘fire McDermott” guy, but I blame him for this. Perhaps the most important part of an NFL Head Coach’s job is managing the egos in the locker room. He lets this one get out of hand, and by the time he tried to reel it in it was too late. I’m not a Vrabel fluffer like so may here, but one thing going for him is his giant personality that sucks all the oxygen out of the room. 

 

As an aside, McDermott should be let go now. Not because he’s bad, but because this team needs a new voice in the worst way. 

[BillsVet]

This thread is like your wife getting angry - without any particular reason - about something that happened 2 years ago and long since resolved.  

[MJS]

He forced himself off the team.

[bmur66]

Because Diggs wanted to win and he was playing with kitties 🙃

[Niagara Dude]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

I was travelling when this happened, saw the headlines, knew Diggs was kind of an oddball, etc. but never really read anywhere what the real deal was on this?   Is there any history on reason for Diggs release that is reasonably factual?  

I believe Diggs was let because McDermott wanted the team to become a running team and Beane just could not afford the luxury and cap space of having Diggs on the team when your focused on running the ball .  His final year they ran limited plays for him in the second half of the year so they could get his numbers down & then justify trading him in the offseason.

 

Beanne and McDermott wanted cap space and resources for defensive side of the football despite still sucking bad year after year. Last season we became a run run first offence and Beane convinced himself the receiver room was just fine because we scored 30 points a game for 8 straight games,  leaving out the defences we were playing at the time were bad and all the turnovers we were getting that you cannot always rely on.

 

As we can now see,  Diggs can still play and was never replaced as Beane promised both the media and fans the day he traded him

[BringBackFergy]

My sources told me Diggs wanted to spread his seed before he got too old, and if he was to impregnate 3 or 4 ladies in Buffalo, he’d have to show up for birthdays and other holidays in cold weather. So he actively pursued a trade to a warmer climate and, thereafter, started his family. 

[TH3]

7 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I’m not a ‘fire McDermott” guy, but I blame him for this. Perhaps the most important part of an NFL Head Coach’s job is managing the egos in the locker room. He lets this one get out of hand, and by the time he tried to reel it in it was too late. I’m not a Vrabel fluffer like so may here, but one thing going for him is his giant personality that sucks all the oxygen out of the room. 

 

As an aside, McDermott should be let go now. Not because he’s bad, but because this team needs a new voice in the worst way. 

Haha  “I’m not a fire Mcd guy”…but fire him

”I’m not a Vrabel fluffer” …but he has a giant personality !!

[boyst]

none of us truly truly know but we can draw straws and grasp at what connects dots.

 

Diggs was done with the team and not being featured as he knew his value and was not being used properly. Diggs does not care about the money as much as he does winning and getting the ball.

 

that he did not get the ball and was like Allen Iverson about the approach to his game wore thin on the team. mcDermott needs full buy in from his team and Diggs was a distraction to McD despite Diggs being a good teammate for the most part - as evidence by him being the lone player to go see Hamlin after the incident among other things.

 

Diggs held people accountable and was a force. it wore thin and was labeled as selfish. the "team" view was it was unacceptable and Josh probably did not recognize the value vs. loss of having Diggs. likely thinking Diggs was overexaggerating the issue thinking he was part of the problem. i would imagine josh knows now he could use Diggs who would instantly and by a mile be the best talent on this wr corps.

 

but Diggs did not want to wait around for that to be realized...and here we are.

[TH3]

11 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I believe Diggs was let because McDermott wanted the team to become a running team and Beane just could not afford the luxury and cap space of having Diggs on the team when your focused on running the ball .  His final year they ran limited plays for him in the second half of the year so they could get his numbers down & then justify trading him in the offseason.

 

Beanne and McDermott wanted cap space and resources for defensive side of the football despite still sucking bad year after year. Last season we became a run run first offence and Beane convinced himself the receiver room was just fine because we scored 30 points a game for 8 straight games,  leaving out the defences we were playing at the time were bad and all the turnovers we were getting that you cannot always rely on.

 

As we can now see,  Diggs can still play and was never replaced as Beane promised both the media and fans the day he traded him

Wut?

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said:

There was supposedly a rift behind the scenes with Diggs and Allen(possibly McDermott as well)

 

I don't blame Beane one bit for trading Diggs...the problem is completely neglecting replacing him with a legitimate #1 receiver since he's been gone

Scratch supposedly and possibly.  

[davefan66]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

There is a poster who has some behind the scenes info so if he wants to post it here or PM you he can but I don’t want to put it out there bc it was told in confidence. Anyway he wasn’t cut and we got a 2nd rd pick for him. 

He wasn’t hanging with Hasek was he?

Edited 57 minutes ago by davefan66

[todd]

1 hour ago, ScottishBills said:

They realised the juice was no longer worth the squeeze

 

Part of that was him getting older, and maybe a bigger part was Brady being unable to scheme a passing game centred around a WR1 - he saw the future and upped his dickishness - we thought we saw an elite offence that didn't involve a highly paid WR1 - something some people here still believe in it seems

 

Thankfully we fixed this by concentrating on having 5 or 6 WR4 types and dont have to worry about how to use a WR1

 

Watching Redzone and seeing multiple different outside receivers so easily ***** the ball out the sky to continue a drive and be in scoring position has become a bittersweet watch - as we wait for Cook to rip a big one or Josh to scramble around on 4th down and fire a laser beam. I can understand all the people who believe it is both working and sustainable all the way to a Superbowl. I certainly don't agree. If Kincaid was an iron man, maybe you could get through with it, but he's not

 

back on topic - Diggs was and is a dick. We had enough of it.

Another hijacked thread taking swipes at Beane. Good lord.

52 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I’m not a ‘fire McDermott” guy, but I blame him for this. Perhaps the most important part of an NFL Head Coach’s job is managing the egos in the locker room. He lets this one get out of hand, and by the time he tried to reel it in it was too late. I’m not a Vrabel fluffer like so may here, but one thing going for him is his giant personality that sucks all the oxygen out of the room. 

 

As an aside, McDermott should be let go now. Not because he’s bad, but because this team needs a new voice in the worst way. 

not a “fire McDermott guy” but close the post with saying fired now? In the middle of the season warming up for a playoff run?

[SoonerBillsFan]

This quote is bull crap...

 

 

Tremendous player," a team source said. "But the offense didn't need him anymore.

 

We needed him, Brady just couldn't, or wouldn't, scheme him anymore.  He was pissed and I dont blame him

 

That said, he was an ass about how he went about things, and was wrong in how he handled it.

 

But to say he, a legitimate threat that DC's had to account for, wasn't needed is BS

[todd]

1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

This quote is bull crap...

 

 

Tremendous player," a team source said. "But the offense didn't need him anymore.

 

We needed him, Brady just couldn't, or wouldn't, scheme him anymore.  He was pissed and I dont blame him

 

That said, he was an ass about how he went about things, and was wrong in how he handled it.

 

But to say he, a legitimate threat that DC's had to account for, wasn't needed is BS

They absolutely did not need him, as proven with the prolific offense last year. This year they clearly need someone, but not him and his ***** clown show. So no-they did not need him. Josh won MVP without him. 

[Augie]

54 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

 I’m not a ‘fire McDermott” guy, but I blame him for this. Perhaps the most important part of an NFL Head Coach’s job is managing the egos in the locker room. He lets this one get out of hand, and by the time he tried to reel it in it was too late. I’m not a Vrabel fluffer like so may here, but one thing going for him is his giant personality that sucks all the oxygen out of the room. 

 

As an aside, McDermott should be let go now. Not because he’s bad, but because this team needs a new voice in the worst way. 

 

Would you care to explain the contradiction in the bolded comments. No, never mind, don’t bother trying. 🤦 

[Psautcsk]

53 minutes ago, boyst said:

none of us truly truly know but we can draw straws and grasp at what connects dots.

 

Diggs was done with the team and not being featured as he knew his value and was not being used properly. Diggs does not care about the money as much as he does winning and getting the ball.

 

that he did not get the ball and was like Allen Iverson about the approach to his game wore thin on the team. mcDermott needs full buy in from his team and Diggs was a distraction to McD despite Diggs being a good teammate for the most part - as evidence by him being the lone player to go see Hamlin after the incident among other things.

 

Diggs held people accountable and was a force. it wore thin and was labeled as selfish. the "team" view was it was unacceptable and Josh probably did not recognize the value vs. loss of having Diggs. likely thinking Diggs was overexaggerating the issue thinking he was part of the problem. i would imagine josh knows now he could use Diggs who would instantly and by a mile be the best talent on this wr corps.

 

but Diggs did not want to wait around for that to be realized...and here we are.

And hopefully we can beat a team with Diggs on it. If we don't, it will become a thing.

Edited 43 minutes ago by Psautcsk

[Captain_Quint]

Imagine if Diggs was still here when his 5 kids with 5 different women all popped out this upcoming year. No thanks! Too much noise and money for a 32yr old receiver. 

[Draconator]

Why is this thread even a thing? Diggs is an a$$. Good riddance.