Can the Bills win out?

[TheWei44]

Don't think we'll win out but people seem to be ignoring two key facets of yesterday's game: (1) the weather conditions were not conducive to throwing the ball (plus our ground game was on fire), so yesterday would not be the best game to evaluate our passing game and (2) unleashing "running Josh" can be a game changer against any opponent.  We save that for key games/moments, and it's huge.  Don't underestimate it's value down the stretch!

[zow2]

They will not win out but I now think they will win the final 3 of 5 and finish 11-6.

[eball]

14 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

Is New England some unbeatable team now? The Bills lost by 3 to them in a game where everything went wrong.

 

Yeah, this is where I am also.  Sure, Maye has played pretty well for most of the season but the Pats*** have had a horseshoe up their ass all year.  They lost to the friggin’ Raiders and Steelers, in case everyone forgot.

 

Here’s a stat that would probably blow most fans’ minds…as of right now the Pats*** and Bills have each played 12 games.  The Pats*** “celebrated” defense has given up a grand total of 40 — yes, 40 — fewer yards than the Bills’ D against a decidedly weaker schedule.

 

Rooting hard for the Giants to come up with an inspired effort tonight against a traditionally hated rival.

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by eball

[djp14150]

7 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Obviously this locker room is pretty close. Do you think this critical road win could be the late season spark to win out and go on a run?

 

The team has flaws, but remains extremely dangerous...

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

Depends on health and turnovers. Entering the Jets game they might not have anything to play for. Thus they rest many.

 

Bengals — yes 

at Cheats — yes 

at Browns — yes 

Eagles — yes

Jets — yes 

 

cheats have…..

Giants

bye

Bills — lose 

at Ravens— lose 

at Jets

Dolphins 

 

Can they lose 1 among other 3 games…yes.

 

if tied entering week 18 thry coukd move Fins-Patsvto Saturday since NE coukd have tiebreaker/ control. So if they win then Buffalo rests.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by djp14150

[chris heff]

This place is so predictable, I knew when I opened this thread it was going to piss me off. Can the Bills win out? Of course they can. We will find out, as someone once said, “it’s why you play the games”. Last week it was all about how the Bills had no chance, two backup tackles against the Steelers defense? Forget about it. I read how a one handed Rodgers was going to kill the Bills, or that it didn’t matter that the Steelers secondary is bad, you don’t need a secondary when you have a great defensive line. Well as it turned out the Steelers secondary didn’t matter, because two backup tackles, an injured center, two very good guards beat the snot out of the Steelers unstoppable defensive line. The one handed QB was broken and literally bleeding. “Oh, but what about the passing game?” You don’t need to pass when you’re running like that, not to mention 30mph gusts. The Bills are 8-4, there is about 30 seasons I can think of where I would have killed for 8-4 to start December.

[GASabresIUFan]

One game at a time.   Beat Cin next week with their real QB and receivers and then go from there.

[nedboy7]

Wow that win really impressed everyone.  We’re back on the no one scares us we’re gonna win out narrative.  

[djp14150]

1 minute ago, chris heff said:

This place is so predictable, I knew when I opened this thread it was going to piss me off. Can the Bills win out? Of course they can. We will find out, as someone once said, “it’s why you play the games”. Last week it was all about how the Bills had no chance, two backup tackles against the Steelers defense? Forget about it. I read how a one handed Rodgers was going to kill the Bills, or that it didn’t matter that the Steelers secondary is bad, you don’t need a secondary when you have a great defensive line. Well as it turned out the Steelers secondary didn’t matter, because two backup tackles, an injured center, two very good guards beat the snot out of the Steelers unstoppable defensive line. The one handed QB was broken and literally bleeding. “Oh, but what about the passing game?” You don’t need to pass when you’re running like that, not to mention 30mph gusts. The Bills are 8-4, there is about 30 seasons I can think of where I would have killed for 8-4 to start December.

 

they have gone so bill-polar on here.

 

uncertain games in predictions were — Baltimore, Pittsburgh, cincinati, KC, tampa bay, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Houston.   The division games were not going to be walkovers ( one of them against each is usually a close game that turnovers can affect)

 

 

[DapperCam]

I think our passing game is too screwed up to win out. Maybe if Cooks had a little bit left in the tank and Kincaid gets healthy and stays healthy.

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Obviously this locker room is pretty close. Do you think this critical road win could be the late season spark to win out and go on a run?

 

The team has flaws, but remains extremely dangerous...

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

Can they? Absolutely. Will they? I doubt it. I think a case can be made for the Bills to win each game, but an equal argument can be made each week why they will lose.

 

And this is a direct reflection on how bizarre this season has been league wide. There is a legitimate possibility we lose to the Browns and their defense...yet beat the Eagles by three touchdowns. 

 

This season, they could win every game left...or lose every game left. Neither would shock me at this point 

[Billsatlastin2018]

When, I originally read the question, I was thinking about the possibility of 5 games. But, that’s not what you’re asking. You’re talking about NINE… as in 10 straight!

 

The answer is NO and/or highly unlikely.

 

EVERYBODY here knows these details keys as previously mentioned: “Unless Dalton Kincaid comes back and stays healthy and Brandin Cooks turns back the clock and is able to create a passing game for us, it's the same story. If we win the line of scrimmage on offense through brute force, we're in good shape. But that's not going to happen every week.”

 

I would add on, the single critical ingredient- #17 ignoring Brady’s idiotic calls and running wild on planned/ broken plays… several times per game. 
 

Which is very dangerous!

 

And seriously, the Bills are not going to put up 250 yards Rushing every game… not even close, likely never again! That means their substandard WR 4s, 5s, 6s and nobodies, all thanks to Beanbrain, have to SEPARATE AND CATCH 250 yards of Receptions!
 

Who here thinks that’s possible?

 

Let alone, can the Clapper keep his can’t tackle, can’t cover, can’t blitz, D on the rails, like he did yesterday?
Be sharp here- there aren’t anymore 45 year old, over the hill QB fossils on the upcoming sked!

 

I’m settled into getting into the Playoffs, winning the first round and see ya.

THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANTED IN SEPTEMBER! 🤬

This is on OBD Management!

 

One final thought. In this, the softest sked of this millennium- by far, and no super team(s) in evidence, it has been profoundly irritating to lose 4 games to substandard or bad teams!

Edited 1 hour ago by Billsatlastin2018

[PromoTheRobot]

[Bruffalo]

They certainly could. Allen has the ability to drag the team to a win any given Sunday. 

 

They probably won't though.  There's too much volatility in the offense, Brady has trouble adapting the gameplan, and McDermott's defense struggles against excellent QBs more often than not.

 

It's entirely within reason that they have a chance to win out, I just wouldn't expect it. 

[SoTier]

7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

I don't have a crystal ball. It could be the Patriots. It could be the Broncos. 

 

That's not the point though. The point is that the makeup of this team is not built to win 4 games in a row against the best teams in the NFL playing at their best. 

 

As we've seen all season - relying solely on the run game and the run game alone is not sustainable. Regardless of what you think of other teams in the AFC, like the Patriots, there are multiple teams that are far less one dimensional. That can win through the air and on the ground. 

 

How many NFL teams have actually been built to "win 4 games in a row against the best teams in the NFL playing at their best" in the salary cap era?   Neither the Patriots and Broncos aren't.   My guess is that very few, if any, have been.  Maybe the 2018 Patriots were, but they couldn't actually do it because they ran into an inferior team with a horseshoe up its collective ass ... and one of their JAG WRs caught a pass off his helmet and scored the winning TD.    

 

My point is that in the single elimination playoff format used by the NFL, any team that makes the playoffs can win the Super Bowl if things like injuries, officiating, and just plain luck go their way.   That includes the Bills.

 

5 hours ago, Chautauqua Mafia said:

No. They'll absolutely lose in New England and likely to Philadelphia 

 

You haven't been watching the Eagles recently.    A couple of weeks ago, there was a thread about Philly's offensive issues (Not All Brotherly Love ... ) which seems to have nailed the problem, which hasn't yet been fixed if it even can be fixed.

 

 

 

Edited 53 minutes ago by SoTier

[Taro Nimbus]

Can they?   Yes.  Will they, probably not.  4-1 at best down the stretch.   Too many games we lost this year we should have won. 

[The Jokeman]

Let's focus on beating the Bengals first. 

[Taro Nimbus]

42 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

One game at a time.   Beat Cin next week with their real QB and receivers and then go from there.

This makes me more mad than anything.  The Pats get so damn lucky with their schedule and get to play the bengals with no Chase or Burrow, and the ghost of Flacco at QB. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

They could. It gets down to health, playing well and some luck. But, its the same thing for all the AFC teams, as none are world beaters.

[Dillenger4]

7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You also compared Tyrell Shavers to a Hall of Fame WR after our last win. Now you're asking if we can go 5-0 down the stretch and comparing us to the 2023 Super Bowl Champion Chiefs. With all due respect, I think you let your feet leave the ground a little too high after a win.

 

We just beat what is now a .500 Steelers team. And we did it running the same kind of one dimensional offense that lost us a game to a Backup QB led Texans team the week before.

 

You asked a question, I gave an answer. Unless Dalton Kincaid comes back and stays healthy and Brandin Cooks turns back the clock and is able to create a passing game for us, it's the same story. If we win the line of scrimmage on offense through brute force, we're in good shape. But that's not going to happen every week.

 

 

I don't have a crystal ball. It could be the Patriots. It could be the Broncos. 

 

That's not the point though. The point is that the makeup of this team is not built to win 4 games in a row against the best teams in the NFL playing at their best. 

 

As we've seen all season - relying solely on the run game and the run game alone is not sustainable. Regardless of what you think of other teams in the AFC, like the Patriots, there are multiple teams that are far less one dimensional. That can win through the air and on the ground. 

Then go root for those other teams. The Bills can win through the air and on the ground. We are 8-4 by doing so. We have been banged up, and yes, most teams have injuries. But we have been without starting players at multiple key positions for the whole season. Wea re finally getting healthy. Nobody in the league scares me or the Bills. We can go on a run and win out. One game at a time.

[ProcessTruster]

I'll take 3-2 record and get completely healthy.   

 

Both Bengals and Pats will have substantial rest advantages coming into those games.   

 

Pats have their bye this coming Sunday (what else can go right for them?) so they will be loaded when Bills travel there.   So that's probably an L simply because they will be rested and we will be coming off a subfreezing snow game and will probably get banged up followed by travel.  

 

Eagles will be a challenge but they look beatable.   Jets and Browns are running for the bus so those look like W's. 

 

So 11-6 would be the goal IMO.   Get the regular season over with, get healthy and then see how we do in the tournament.