Is This McD's Worst Loss?

[Big Turk]

This team has gotten away with just showing up in these games and winning for too long that it's hard to break the habit that now they actually have to prepare properly and play well this year.

 

They aren't good enough right now to get away with that.

 

Too lackadaisical. Too cocky. Too arrogant.

Edited 2 hours ago by Big Turk

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

This team has gotten away with just showing up in these games and winning for too long that it's hard to break the habit that now they actually have to prepare properly and play well this year.

 

They aren't good enough right now to get away with that.

 

Too lackadaisical. Too cocky. Too arrogant.

Hard to believe that was the same team that dictated most of the game against KC just one week ago.

[billieve420]

45 minutes ago, Success said:

I hate to sound cavalier - but how hard it is to get your team "up" for a game like this?

 

They just had what could have been a season-turning win.  It's a division rival.  You KNOW there might be some letdown.

 

This game was flat, flat, flat from the very first play.  He is not able to motivate this team on a week-to-week basis.

 

 

I mean if you expect to be a championship caliber team can't continue to have these terrible losses every year which ends up costing team the #1 seed. They lack that killer instinct to be great from top on down.

[steven50]

1 hour ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Defense gave up 30 +, offense played like ass and has zero wideouts. Brady every few games schemes complete clunkers.  MCD as headcoach needs to have these players ready, today they looked disinterested.

 

 

Your box score is lying to you. Allen went 4 of 6 for 20 yards in the 1st quarter and 5 of 9 for 53 yards in the second before padding his states (185 yrds) in the fourth when the game was out of hand.

 

He looked like JP lossman today.

 

The defense played decent  until the 4th quarter when the game was out of hand. 

 

Could the playcalling have been better? Sure, but if McD has to have beg people that make millions of dollars a year to be "ready" to work then I don't no what to tell you. This is not pop warner football.

 

 

I know its blasphemy to call out Allen when he has a bad game but he did. He has had a couple of bad games this year.

[PayDaBill$]

2 minutes ago, steven50 said:

Your box score is lying to you. Allen went 4 of 6 for 20 yards in the 1st quarter and 5 of 9 for 53 yards in the second before padding his states (185 yrds) in the fourth when the game was out of hand.

 

He looked like JP lossman today.

 

The defense played decent  until the 4th quarter when the game was out of hand. 

 

Could the playcalling have been better? Sure, but if McD has to have beg people that make millions of dollars a year to be "ready" to work then I don't no what to tell you. This is not pop warner football.

 

 

I know its blasphemy to call out Allen when he has a bad game but he did. He has had a couple of bad games this year.

Brady is flat out awful, from opening series I turned and said to my son “ it’s going to be one of those games”.

Edited 1 hour ago by PayDaBill$

[dorquemada]

2 hours ago, Comebackkid said:

 

On one hand like ive said before, if we cant run the ball things go south quick.

 

 

 

Yup.  MVP qb but if other team stacks the box to stop our pop warner run schemes, we're helpless babies in the woods

 

Today was much worse than a normal loss.  This was a full team effort, started sloppy then just gave up.  I'm sure when one of the guys writes a book about the allen era we'll find out that they were all out until all hours last night getting drunk.  That's the best possible outcome, honestly, because anything else points to a deeper rot.

[Strethor]

The collective McBeane absolutely 

[Bruffalo]

It’s so hard to choose when a coach has so many signature losses.

 

Today was a coaching meltdown though, both from McD and Brady. It was like if 13 seconds was a whole game. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Bruffalo

[BillsPride12]

48 minutes ago, BVBILLS said:

13 seconds will always be the worst loss, this one was more of a choke

I think you have them backwards 

[Doc Brown]

18 minutes ago, mannc said:

I don’t know…this was a division loss against a team that’s officially given up, who we’ve absolutely owned, on essentially a neutral field, in a game we really needed to win.  I cannot think of a worse overall performance.

It's a good case for the worse regular season loss of McD's tenure given the stakes.  The Dolphins obviously rallied around their coach after the GM was fired.  To me the postseason is just a different animal and 13 seconds was just a complete abortion of late game management by McD.

[mannc]

5 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's a good case for the worse regular season loss of McD's tenure given the stakes.  The Dolphins obviously rallied around their coach after the GM was fired.  To me the postseason is just a different animal and 13 seconds was just a complete abortion of late game management by McD.

Not to belabor the point, but the Bills played great in the 13 seconds game; it was McDermott’s worst coaching blunder, but the team performed well against a great team in hostile environment.  This was just a complete embarrassment, from top to bottom…

[T master]

3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

The 13 seconds game still rules.

That one definitely hurt more because of how close they were and how it unfolded but at least they played well in that one all but a couple of the last plays .

 

From what I've heard they never even show'd up for this one - NO BODY . I would think that with Shakir, Knox, Coleman, Shavers they could come up with something more than what they put out there today .

 

After that game last week to go to this I was blown away even with all of the injuries they still should have show'd a lot better .

[DrDawkinstein]

45 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

This team has gotten away with just showing up in these games and winning for too long that it's hard to break the habit that now they actually have to prepare properly and play well this year.

 

They aren't good enough right now to get away with that.

 

Too lackadaisical. Too cocky. Too arrogant.

 

I think you just found the closest thing we have to an "identity". Unfortunately.

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

That’s on our overrated players , not the coach. These aren’t 12 year olds. They shouldn't need extra motivating when they have a chance to crush a division rival and set themselves up to defend their title. 

 

If it were 1 or 2 star players, then that's on the individual players.

 

When it's the entire team in all 3 phases, that's on the coaching.

 

No one is asking for "extra" motivation. But if they show up this flat and unprepared to play against a division rival then something is wrong in the building.

[mannc]

Just to rub some salt in the wound, Mack Hollins had over 100 yards receiving today for NE.

[Boatdrinks]

9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think you just found the closest thing we have to an "identity". Unfortunately.

 

If it were 1 or 2 star players, then that's on the individual players.

 

When it's the entire team in all 3 phases, that's on the coaching.

 

No one is asking for "extra" motivation. But if they show up this flat and unprepared to play against a division rival then something is wrong in the building.

They had awful gameplans ( or lack of game plan) on both sides of the ball. Yes that is definitely coaching. Brady was terrible and McD not much better. Was only referring to being motivated. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

46 minutes ago, steven50 said:

Your box score is lying to you. Allen went 4 of 6 for 20 yards in the 1st quarter and 5 of 9 for 53 yards in the second before padding his states (185 yrds) in the fourth when the game was out of hand.

 

He looked like JP lossman today.

 

The defense played decent  until the 4th quarter when the game was out of hand. 

 

Could the playcalling have been better? Sure, but if McD has to have beg people that make millions of dollars a year to be "ready" to work then I don't no what to tell you. This is not pop warner football.

 

 

I know its blasphemy to call out Allen when he has a bad game but he did. He has had a couple of bad games this year.

 

Pretty awful game for the defense IMO. 

 

The defense allowed 14 points on the Dolphins first 3 drives. Then had a stretch where they played pretty well from the middle of the 2nd Q into the 4th Q. Then gave up a couple of long TDs in the 4th Q to put the game away. 

 

Both of Tua's interceptions were just arm punts 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

6 minutes ago, mannc said:

Just to rub some salt in the wound, Mack Hollins had over 100 yards receiving today for NE.

He’s just better than what we had out there today, simple as that. Maybe Palmer is better , but he didn’t play yet again. 

52 minutes ago, steven50 said:

Your box score is lying to you. Allen went 4 of 6 for 20 yards in the 1st quarter and 5 of 9 for 53 yards in the second before padding his states (185 yrds) in the fourth when the game was out of hand.

 

He looked like JP lossman today.

 

The defense played decent  until the 4th quarter when the game was out of hand. 

 

Could the playcalling have been better? Sure, but if McD has to have beg people that make millions of dollars a year to be "ready" to work then I don't no what to tell you. This is not pop warner football.

 

 

I know its blasphemy to call out Allen when he has a bad game but he did. He has had a couple of bad games this year.

Allen was bad today, the INT was abysmal. Tried to do too much with the running play when he fumbled. 

[mannc]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

He’s just better than what we had out there today, simple as that. Maybe Palmer is better , but he didn’t play yet again. 

Yep, a bottom of the barrel, 33-year old free agent…

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

3 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Jags loss to Urban Myer was bad. But is this the worst overall team loss under McD?

 

3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said:

The 13 seconds game still rules.

 

The difference between these two is Bills played very well in the Chiefs game until the final 13 seconds of regulation.  Today they played terrible from the play after Bishops Int until  the end.

 

So yes I'd agree today was worst loss.

[BearNorth]

I have seen too many Derrick Henry runs to the end zone, and then today we get Achane taking 2 long jaunts to the house, including one where he outran our 4.3 DB. Are we ever going to understand that this is a game where speed is a valued commodity on both sides of the ball.  Our head coach is supposedly a defensive expert, but we have too many games where teams gash us for long runs and points.