Trade Deadline has come and gone

[GerstAusGosheim]

18 hours ago, Einstein said:

I have simply come to terms with the fact that Beane and I don’t value draft picks the same.

 

It couldn't be any more clear that Bean isn't running the show, Sean is. No GM in his right mind starves an MVP QB of weapons at WR two years straight. Sean is saving those picks for average rotational D players. 

[Process]

1 minute ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

 

It couldn't be any more clear that Bean isn't running the show, Sean is. No GM in his right mind starves an MVP QB of weapons at WR two years straight. Sean is saving those picks for average rotational D players. 

Won't find a better example of someone talking out their ass then this. 

 

This is who Beane is and has always been. 

[IYKYK]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

can absolutely see this happening.  Would be fine with me.  He could still be quite effective for us as a rotational pass rusher 

I would much rather sign him as a FA than give up picks to get him. Can’t be any worse than The DL they just brought in.

[BillsVet]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

Won't find a better example of someone talking out their ass then this. 

 

This is who Beane is and has always been. 

 

McD and Beane are a package deal and aligned in essentially the same direction philosophically.  

 

Beane has changed though.  He went from the guy who drafted Josh, traded for Diggs, and signed Von Miller to a guy who stopped being bold.  He is the anti-Howie Roseman who has to boast of decisions made 7 years ago when he done messes up.       

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

a healthy Bosa & Von for the playoffs would be encouraging.......  could overwhelm OL's by stacking them on the same side of the line 

wait what?  Did I miss something in the last few hours?

 

EDITED TO ADD: read through the last page; I see this is discussing a hypothetical 

Edited 18 hours ago by RiotAct

[Billz4ever]

8 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

McD and Beane are a package deal and aligned in essentially the same direction philosophically.  

 

Beane has changed though.  He went from the guy who drafted Josh, traded for Diggs, and signed Von Miller to a guy who stopped being bold.  He is the anti-Howie Roseman who has to boast of decisions made 7 years ago when he done messes up.       

 

The reasons are self-inflicted though. We've got a good bit of $ tied up in players who contracts don't equal their performance IMO. Knox and Bernard just to name a couple home growns. Then add in bad signings like Samuel, and you're handcuffing yourself.

[TBBills Fan]

I feel like this is a cumbaya moment

 

We all seem to agree that the Jets won the trade but are not confident the Jets will maximize the assets based on their past. 

 

America can unite if this place can

 

#hope

[HappyDays]

The tidbit I just heard is that we were on the phone all day with Tennessee trying to get them to eat most of Calvin Ridley's base salary but we couldn't come to an agreement on the required draft capital.

[LEBills]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

The tidbit I just heard is that we were on the phone all day with Tennessee trying to get them to eat most of Calvin Ridley's base salary but we couldn't come to an agreement on the required draft capital.

Ridley is toast anyway. 

[thenorthremembers]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

The tidbit I just heard is that we were on the phone all day with Tennessee trying to get them to eat most of Calvin Ridley's base salary but we couldn't come to an agreement on the required draft capital.

 

Considering the age of the player and the contract thats a tricky one.   You get contract control for 2.5 years, but his base salary was large, and he will be 32. 

[Coach Tuesday]

15 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

The tidbit I just heard is that we were on the phone all day with Tennessee trying to get them to eat most of Calvin Ridley's base salary but we couldn't come to an agreement on the required draft capital.

 

They probably still remember the time they couldn't cover him in London.  Might have dodged a bullet not landing him although, man, they really put themselves up against it AGAIN in 2025, once again at the trade deadline desperately needing outside WR help.  I just do not understand the thinking process over at OBD, it's like they know it's a huge need but always find reasons not to prioritize it.

[HappyDays]

18 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Ridley is toast anyway. 

 

Yeah maybe. He wasn't my first choice, or 2nd 3rd 4th or 5th choice for that matter. He did have 1,000 yards in each of the past two seasons and is on pace for about 800 this year in a poor passing offense. Beane wanted to upgrade the X position and Ridley would have done that at least. I'm not broken up about it though.

 

17 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

Considering the age of the player and the contract thats a tricky one.   You get contract control for 2.5 years, but his base salary was large, and he will be 32. 

 

Yeah I'm not sure what the plan would have been for 2026. His dead cap hit if cut as a post-6/1 designation next year is $11M and his normal cap hit is $20.2M which he definitely is not worth at this point. Maybe they would have ripped up his deal and given him a new extension? In any case I know Beane tried.

[Sojourner]

4 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

 

The reasons are self-inflicted though. We've got a good bit of $ tied up in players who contracts don't equal their performance IMO. Knox and Bernard just to name a couple home growns. Then add in bad signings like Samuel, and you're handcuffing yourself.

Love Kincaid and he’s the better player than Knox but that pick was a bit of a headscratcher seeing as they tied Knox into an extension right before. But going back to that 2023 there isn’t a great deal of WRs who are decent after that. Rashee Rice and an up and down Jayden Reed is about it. 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Sojourner

[Clyde Smith]

5 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Love Kincaid and he’s the better player than Knox but that pick was a bit of a headscratcher seeing as they tied Knox into an extension right before. But going back to that 2023 there isn’t a great deal of WRs who are decent after that. Rashee Rice and an up and down Jayden Reed is about it. 

 

If I remember correctly, I think we missed out on getting Addison. So Beane believing in value selected Kincaid who at one point was ranked 10th.

[Blank Stare]

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2025/11/buffalo-bills-gm-was-mad-as-any-fan-after-striking-out-at-trade-deadline.html?outputType=amp

 

[Pete]

48 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Love Kincaid and he’s the better player than Knox but that pick was a bit of a headscratcher seeing as they tied Knox into an extension right before. But going back to that 2023 there isn’t a great deal of WRs who are decent after that. Rashee Rice and an up and down Jayden Reed is about it. 

 

2023 draft there was a big run on WR right before Buffalo.  I think everyone knew Buffalo was going WR.

Jaxon Smith-Nj went 20, Quentin Johnson went 21, Zay Flowers 22, Addison 23.  There was a big drop off at WR, and Dalton was the closest thing to a top WR.  Cowboys loved Dalton, and we’re gonna draft him.  Beane traded up from 27, to 25.  Beane sent pick 27 and 130 for Dalton

[thewookie1]

I do believe Beane wanted to make a trade; he may not be as aggressive as what most of us may want but he has consistently made trades at the deadline over the years. 

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

The tidbit I just heard is that we were on the phone all day with Tennessee trying to get them to eat most of Calvin Ridley's base salary but we couldn't come to an agreement on the required draft capital.

Does WGR get to call Beane and ask him some follow up questions lol

[ngbills]

Ridley as the main target feels odd. I would have taken him but kind of surprised that was the deal they were going after. Follows the pattern though of the type Beane goes after. 

[billsfan89]

2 hours ago, Sojourner said:

Love Kincaid and he’s the better player than Knox but that pick was a bit of a headscratcher seeing as they tied Knox into an extension right before. But going back to that 2023 there isn’t a great deal of WRs who are decent after that. Rashee Rice and an up and down Jayden Reed is about it. 

 

 

The Bills missed out on the top WR's in that years draft. The Bills were drafting 27th and were able to trade up to 25. From picks 20-23 all the better WR's were taken. JSN/Q Johnston/Flowers/Addison were all taken back to back to back to back. The Bills biggest need going into the 2023 draft was finding a second pass catcher opposite Diggs. They were drafting 27th so by the time they got to a place where they could trade up a slot or two all those WR's were gone. The next WR taken was Mingo by Carolina at pick 39 firmly in the 2nd round. Kincaid was considered the top TE in the draft. 

 

The Bills basically took the best pass catcher they could find at pick 25 and it was the wise choice in my opinion. Kincaid had a really nice rookie year adding another reliable receiving option to the core. Better to get a very good TE than reach for a WR. I also think holding onto the 56th pick to take Torrence as opposed to trading up made sense although JSN probably would have been worth it but hard to project that at the time.