It's playoff time, under 2 minutes, down 4 points, we have the ball..............

[Coach Tuesday]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Yea I am concerned that we are not built to get it done in that scenario. It is so hard in those situations if you can't threaten deep or outside. Because the opposition will let you have the short passes in the middle knowing that the chances are time runs out on you or rushes you into a mistake. 

 

Of course there is a chance we can find a deep seam to Kincaid or Shakir can catch a short one and make magic but you are kind of limited to one of those things happening and if they don't you're toast.

One more matchup advantage (to acquire or to emerge) on offense would get it done though.  As horrible as it is to even utter, I realized the other day that even Steph Diggs right now would probably put this offense over the top.  

[nedboy7]

You throw a back shoulder jump ball to Keon and hope for a 30% chance of winning the game.   

[Pete]

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Yea I am concerned that we are not built to get it done in that scenario. It is so hard in those situations if you can't threaten deep or outside. Because the opposition will let you have the short passes in the middle knowing that the chances are time runs out on you or rushes you into a mistake. 

 

Of course there is a chance we can find a deep seam to Kincaid or Shakir can catch a short one and make magic but you are kind of limited to one of those things happening and if they don't you're toast.

I agree.  2 minute drives require WRs who can separate quickly, and quickly get out of bounds to stop the clock.  Keon is definitely not that.  Beane has 8 hours to fix this mess at WR

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

One more matchup advantage (to acquire or to emerge) on offense would get it done though.  As horrible as it is to even utter, I realized the other day that even Steph Diggs right now would probably put this offense over the top.  

 

I said it before we played the Pats and I stand by it - Stef would still be this team's best receiver as long as his head was right.

[frostbitmic]

2:00 minutes to go and Josh with the ball = cape on and we're scoring a TD unless we get hit up with phantom penalties after every gain (wink wink nudge nudge) otherwise I have no doubt Josh puts 7 on the board. Biggest problem I see is scoring too quickly and putting the McDefense on the field with any more than :12 on the clock. Sorry not sorry but I could see the same thing happening again.

[Ray Stonada]

Josh can get this done calling the plays in no huddle

 

Get into 11 personnel with Josh, Cook, Kincaid, Shakir, Moore and Palmer

 

Shakir and Kincaid intermediate

 

Moore and Palmer deep posts and crossers

 

Let Cook chip block and then go out for passes

 

 

[Olliemets]

13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

 

We literally were less healthy than the Chiefs yesterday and bullied them.. no if we see them again in January.. I think we're winning by more than seven

 

 

Frankly, aside from protecting our own position beating Mahomes Sunday improved our chances of not playing them twice this year.

Chiefs at 4 losses and have challenging games coming up. I hope they get buried.

 

[SoMAn]

13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Or we're up seven with 2 minutes left 

 

I don't see why we have to be down.. we have the most balanced offense in the NFL something Tom Brady won six Super bowls in New England with 

 

We literally were less healthy than the Chiefs yesterday and bullied them.. no if we see them again in January.. I think we're winning by more than seven

 

And yeah I never doubt Josh if we are down with 2 minutes left even if he doesn't get it done 100% of the time.. he's going to get it done more than any quarterback alive

Speaking of the Chiefs and seeing them in the playoffs, it seems that because we've met them so frequently in that position, there's a lot of chatter about 'when' we meet them in January - as if it's assumed and part of the regularly scheduled programming. Not so fast.

With consideration to the competition we're both facing in our respective divisions, I'm not so sure we'll be seeing them again this season.

Unless the Chiefs get it together and win their matchups with the Broncos and Chargers, they could end up as a 6th or 7th seed or out of the playoffs altogether.

With 4 losses after only 9 games, their days of having a week off to rest and then home field advantage may be over.  

By the same token, the Bills need to put their sloppy play with the Patriots and Falcons behind them, and then take care of business when they go to New England. Following the past 2 wins, this fickle fan is a bit more optimistic than I was after that Monday night debacle. 😊

As things now stand, they have a better chance than the Chiefs of hosting home games or even enjoying the bye.

Either way, there will be plenty of obstacles with our other AFC contenders that the odds of seeing the Chiefs again are considerably less than in past seasons.  

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Yea I am concerned that we are not built to get it done in that scenario. It is so hard in those situations if you can't threaten deep or outside. Because the opposition will let you have the short passes in the middle knowing that the chances are time runs out on you or rushes you into a mistake. 

 

Of course there is a chance we can find a deep seam to Kincaid or Shakir can catch a short one and make magic but you are kind of limited to one of those things happening and if they don't you're toast.

There's also the hope Josh puts on the cape and busts off a long run.

[BearNorth]

Don't let McDermott burn up all his timeouts when we're on defense.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, Olliemets said:

 

Frankly, aside from protecting our own position beating Mahomes Sunday improved our chances of not playing them twice this year.

Chiefs at 4 losses and have challenging games coming up. I hope they get buried.

 

 

If they want any shot at the division then sweeping the Broncos and winning the rematch against the Chargers who they lost to in week 1 is a must. IMHO they are playing for a WC as I think Denver will win that division. We will see how it plays out. That Broncos - Chiefs game in 2 weeks will be a fun one to watch.

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

If they want any shot at the division then sweeping the Broncos and winning the rematch against the Chargers who they lost to in week 1 is a must. IMHO they are playing for a WC as I think Denver will win that division. We will see how it plays out. That Broncos - Chiefs game in 2 weeks will be a fun one to watch.

 

Agree, and to make the playoffs I think they likely have to win 2 from Broncs x2, Chargers, Texans. I don't think 7 losses with 6 in Conference will get it done.

[oldmanfan]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree, and to make the playoffs I think they likely have to win 2 from Broncs x2, Chargers, Texans. I don't think 7 losses with 6 in Conference will get it done.

I don’t think the Chiefs make the playoffs.

[Bray Wyatt]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree, and to make the playoffs I think they likely have to win 2 from Broncs x2, Chargers, Texans. I don't think 7 losses with 6 in Conference will get it done.

 

They got the Colts too dont they?

[Alphadawg7]

9 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

You think Allen is just going to throw it all over the field in that spot?

I think he can, and has plenty of times before. 

[GunnerBill]

12 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

They got the Colts too dont they?

 

Yep. 

[Bray Wyatt]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep. 

 

Wondering why they werent included in your list but the Texans were? Or are you already chalking that up as an L?

Edited 9 hours ago by Bray Wyatt

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Wondering why they werent included in your list but the Texans were? Or are you already chalking that up as an L?

 

I forgot ha. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

14 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

As we try to triangulate what this team can actually do in the postseason, I keep coming back to one thing, how do we execute a game winning drive in the postseason?

 

Historically, Allen has been among the best quarterbacks in football when it comes to high leverage, clutch drives. Yet we’ve now been in this exact same position back to back years and failed to deliver. I’m not revisiting those games to assign blame, that topic has been dissected to nauseating levels, but rather to ask with how this offense is constructed today, how do we see a two minute drill against a playoff caliber defense playing out?

 

We’re heavily reliant on methodically moving the ball, spamming Cook, spamming Shakir, spamming screens. Playing bigger sets, throwing to our TE's.  We don’t really have an offense that can operate efficiently in long yardage from my view. It would seem to me that we will need to revert to Allen putting the cape on, but maybe others feel different.   

 

So if we’re down four with two minutes left and the season on the line, do you think we score? What does that drive even look like when you strip away what gives this offense consistency, with Cook likely off the field, short passing limited, and defenses forcing us to win on the perimeter?

 

I think this team has enough talent to execute a flawless & balanced approach w/ 2 minutes and 3 timeouts. Will Allen have to put on the cape ? No, but he will have to make the proper & accurate throws when they present themselves.
 

With the way the offense is constructed now, it’s not going to be a back & forth fiasco like the divisional game a few years back. I expect the Bills to methodically pound the rock, short throws with big YAC, and Allen will have to be dialed in when in the red zone to make the TD throw/run.

 

Unlike the past, there will be no time on the clock for the Chiefs to pull of any miracles. That’s the biggest benefit to this offense. Controlling the clock. That’s huge when the Bills/Chiefs rivalry typically comes down to who has the last possession. 

[Fleezoid]

My doctor advised me not to think of things like this.