Burrow's Turf Toe and torn ligaments; now being reported out three MONTHS

[Buffalo ill]

Joe Burrow is the reason I am glad the Bills focused on building the offensive line instead of dumping all that money into expensive receivers

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 hours ago, BearNorth said:

Dr. Chao was on Sirius yesterday, and thinks 3 months is optimistic for this type of injury.  3 months puts him to week 15, and that's assuming no complications in his recovery, and Burrow has already had a few major injuries since he's come into the league.

Plus, there's that damned seegar habit of his...🤔🤨

[DCofNC]

On 9/15/2025 at 1:15 PM, Doc Brown said:

I don't know if yesterday's specific injury proves he's injury prone but I think Burrow's injuries in the past has a lot to do with him holding the ball too long.  He even said on 3rd downs he's willing to take the sack if it gives him a second more to see if someone can break open because they're going to punt either way.  Sound reasoning but you're going to take more hits.

This right here.  He sits in the pocket FOREVER and gets lit up for it.   He seems almost to have no awareness of what’s going on around him.  It is a superpower for hanging in and making a throw, it’s also going to get him hurt (again).

[streetkings01]

[BigAl2526]

On 9/14/2025 at 7:14 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Even when Burrow comes back it is likely an injury that will be nagging him badly the entire season. Their backup reminds me of the ol’ Amish Rifle. I think they can go .500 until Burrow gets back. Especially if the defense can get it together, but that’s a big if. 

Three months recovery will leave Burrows the chance to start at most about four more games.  Cincinnati could already be out of the playoff hunt. 

[Alphadawg7]

On 9/14/2025 at 3:50 PM, Big Turk said:

Burrow again showing his inability to stay on the field and that last year seems to be an anomaly.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-joe-burrow-could-miss-several-weeks-with-turf-toe-torn-ligaments

 

 

 

[Richard Noggin]

5 hours ago, DCofNC said:

This right here.  He sits in the pocket FOREVER and gets lit up for it.   He seems almost to have no awareness of what’s going on around him.  It is a superpower for hanging in and making a throw, it’s also going to get him hurt (again).

 

Incredibly contrary to Allen's growing tendency (on repeated display so far this season) of stepping up when there's an early lane (especially through the left side A or B gap) to buy time and to put 2nd and 3rd level defenders in conflict. He did it a TON vs Baltimore to my eye. He's just ELITE at avoiding pocket pressure (while still looking to throw) in ways I don't think we always appreciate fully. The OL is pretty good, but not nearly as good at pass pro as 17 makes them seem.

 

Or if there's obvious pre-snap pressure coming, he'll do the opposite thing and adjust protections and routes to leave one blitzer/side unblocked and try to stand in there long enough to hit someone behind that vacated area. 

 

Burrow probably does that 2nd thing (standing in and delivering over/through diagnosed pressures, as you detailed) as well or better than Allen, but just isn't as big and durable (historically) as #17, so he pays the price in more impactful ways. I've seen him move dynamically UP into/past the pocket in some games, but it's not really his nature. He's got underrated feet that he should use a little more often against 3 and 4 man pass rushes. 

[stuvian]

I was impressed by Browning's last stint as starter and was surprised no team traded for him

[NoHuddleKelly12]

7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

 

Who’d Glass Joe beat to get to 1-99?? 🤔

[Jdragon2]

32 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Who’d Glass Joe beat to get to 1-99?? 🤔

 

Heart Attack Harry

[NoHuddleKelly12]

25 minutes ago, Jdragon2 said:

 

Heart Attack Harry

The TBD collective is unmatched in its knowledge base! 

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Who’d Glass Joe beat to get to 1-99?? 🤔

The Browns

[BruceVilanch]

5 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Who’d Glass Joe beat to get to 1-99?? 🤔

Tua

[Big Turk]

10 hours ago, stuvian said:

I was impressed by Browning's last stint as starter and was surprised no team traded for him

 

Maybe because it's a lot easier to look good with elite weapons than it is with average ones?

[RochesterLifer]

13 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Incredibly contrary to Allen's growing tendency (on repeated display so far this season) of stepping up when there's an early lane (especially through the left side A or B gap) to buy time and to put 2nd and 3rd level defenders in conflict. He did it a TON vs Baltimore to my eye. He's just ELITE at avoiding pocket pressure (while still looking to throw) in ways I don't think we always appreciate fully. The OL is pretty good, but not nearly as good at pass pro as 17 makes them seem.

Against the Jets, Josh reminded me of Dan Marino a couple of times. While Marino was famously immobile, he was also very good at shuffling to space while making great throws. A couple of times on Sunday, the famously mobile Josh simply moved to throwing space rather than actually scrambling. He continues to grow and take total control.

[JP51]

6 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Who’d Glass Joe beat to get to 1-99?? 🤔

Burrow lol

[Captain Hindsight]

11 hours ago, stuvian said:

I was impressed by Browning's last stint as starter and was surprised no team traded for him

I'm sure the Bengals received calls

[Low Positive]

11 hours ago, stuvian said:

I was impressed by Browning's last stint as starter and was surprised no team traded for him

I said this upthread, but I'll say it again. His wins in that stretch were:

• At Jacksonville in an OT game when the Jags lost Lawrance. 
• Home against the Minshew-led Colts wth no JT. 
• Home against the Vikings in an OT game. The Vikings were QBed by Nick Mullens, who was their third QB behind Cozens and Josh Dobbs.
• Home against the Browns in a meaningless week 17 game where the playoff-bound Browns sat everyone.

He played 7 games in 2023, and threw 7 INTs. Last week, he threw 3 INTs in a little more than half a game. To be honest, I think the picks are the reason no one traded for him.

 

Another thing. No one is talking about Browning's comeback, which was aided by a soft AF DPI on rookie Travis Hunter BTW, if Bills fans wet dream WR Brian Thomas Jr. could catch the damn ball

 

EDIT: Here's Dave Portnoy ranting about the DPI call with video of the play. This was 4th and long on the Bengals last drive:

 

Edited September 17 by Low Positive

[Stranded in Boston]

29 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said:

Against the Jets, Josh reminded me of Dan Marino a couple of times. While Marino was famously immobile, he was also very good at shuffling to space while making great throws. A couple of times on Sunday, the famously mobile Josh simply moved to throwing space rather than actually scrambling. He continues to grow and take total control.

RL, I had the same thought on Sunday -- Dan Marino. Marino couldn't run for crap, but it was uncanny how he'd shuffle his feet to gain a bit of space when he sensed pressure. I mean, the guy went something like 800 pass attempts in the late 80s without taking a sack (with the streak broken by our own Jeff Wright. IIRC). I've noticed (and liked) that Josh is picking up that habit as well -- little shuffles while keeping his hips oriented downfield. It sure also helps that the OL is doing an outstanding job in pass protection. Deon Dawkins in particular has been sensational; he just seems to absorb his guy. 

[RochesterLifer]

57 minutes ago, Stranded in Boston said:

RL, I had the same thought on Sunday -- Dan Marino. Marino couldn't run for crap, but it was uncanny how he'd shuffle his feet to gain a bit of space when he sensed pressure. I mean, the guy went something like 800 pass attempts in the late 80s without taking a sack (with the streak broken by our own Jeff Wright. IIRC). I've noticed (and liked) that Josh is picking up that habit as well -- little shuffles while keeping his hips oriented downfield. It sure also helps that the OL is doing an outstanding job in pass protection. Deon Dawkins in particular has been sensational; he just seems to absorb his guy. 

Exactly. Josh is developing the knowledge and skills that will allow him to own the offense well past his athletic prime. It is so fun to watch.

 

BTW, Stranded in Boston, I lived there (Arlington) for five years. Boston is a super fun area. But, I just couldn't get comfortable with New Englanders and make it my home. However, I had a blast supporting the New England Free Jacks rugby team. I hope it is a more comfortable fit for you. LOL, here in Mississippi (born a country boy) works much better for me.