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4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

If paying for something doesn't give me ownership, then how can not paying for it be stealing? You seem confused.

 

That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read here, and that’s saying something. 

 

My 11 year old grandson knows the difference between right and wrong. I’m not going down any rabbit holes you suggest. I think at one point in your life you knew right from wrong without having to twist things around. 

 

Look, I don’t really care. I’m not making this out to be a big thing, and no lynchings are in order. But don’t kid yourself.  

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So my wife realized she could get a teacher discount for SundayTicket without subscribing to YTTV and she went ahead and did it today.

At dinner tonight I gently explained to her with no bias exactly how many games we would not be getting via ST and why, a situation she was not aware of. She is currently one very pissed off little lady. My son and his fiance were here for dinner also and didn't realize how bad it had gotten over the last couple years and were pretty annoyed by the whole situation as well.

I'm the kind of dork that pays his taxes in full, rounds up at the register, willingly pays for music by the tune and gives money back to the cashier if he/she makes a mistake. I'm honest to a fault but I no longer have any qualms whatsoever about raising the Jolly Roger on Sundays.

 

Aside: Does anybody have any suggestions re: the best way to get major networks (mostly cbs and Fox) through any of the features on a SmartTV? I'm not close enough to any cities to pick them up even with a modern boosted antenna.

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5 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said:

I hope this doesn’t affect my legally-grey-area fire stick I use. I pay $15 a month and get everything…gotta be legit, right?!

 

Hmmm, you'll have to send me more info before I can decide.....

Posted
21 minutes ago, Simon said:

So my wife realized she could get a teacher discount for SundayTicket without subscribing to YTTV and she went ahead and did it today.

At dinner tonight I gently explained to her with no bias exactly how many games we would not be getting via ST and why, a situation she was not aware of. She is currently one very pissed off little lady. My son and his fiance were here for dinner also and didn't realize how bad it had gotten over the last couple years and were pretty annoyed by the whole situation as well.

I'm the kind of dork that pays his taxes in full, rounds up at the register, willingly pays for music by the tune and gives money back to the cashier if he/she makes a mistake. I'm honest to a fault but I no longer have any qualms whatsoever about raising the Jolly Roger on Sundays.

 

Aside: Does anybody have any suggestions re: the best way to get major networks (mostly cbs and Fox) through any of the features on a SmartTV? I'm not close enough to any cities to pick them up even with a modern boosted antenna.

As long as you have wifi you can get them with Sling... on the TV, computer, tablet, or phone.

Posted
6 minutes ago, T&C said:

As long as you have wifi you can get them with Sling... on the TV, computer, tablet, or phone.

 

No CBS on Sling

Posted
1 hour ago, Xwnyer said:

Hope everyone of them gets shutdown. 

Yeah I know right.  Tax payer subsidized stadiums aren’t enough.  How will a multi-jilliaire industry ever survive? These serfs and peasants need to learn their place. Because of morality and all.  

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You know what’s the most irritating thing about paying for the privilege to watch the NFL?? 
 
The absolutely ridiculous amount of commercials. They keep adding more commercials and charging more for the ability  to watch them which in turn they sell to advertisers for more money. 

 

In all honesty screw the greedy NFL. 
 

It’s borderline unwatchable live. 

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3 hours ago, Simon said:

 

No CBS on Sling

The easiest way outside getting cable is to stream your local CBS station live on Paramount+ but only works with Paramount+ with SHOWTIME plan aka Paramount+ Premium. Yet if you want it just for the NFL games you can get it with Paramount Essential according to

 

https://help.paramountplus.com/s/article/PD-How-can-I-watch-NFL-games-on-Paramount#streamEss

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Simon said:

So my wife realized she could get a teacher discount for SundayTicket without subscribing to YTTV and she went ahead and did it today.

At dinner tonight I gently explained to her with no bias exactly how many games we would not be getting via ST and why, a situation she was not aware of. She is currently one very pissed off little lady. My son and his fiance were here for dinner also and didn't realize how bad it had gotten over the last couple years and were pretty annoyed by the whole situation as well.

I'm the kind of dork that pays his taxes in full, rounds up at the register, willingly pays for music by the tune and gives money back to the cashier if he/she makes a mistake. I'm honest to a fault but I no longer have any qualms whatsoever about raising the Jolly Roger on Sundays.

 

Aside: Does anybody have any suggestions re: the best way to get major networks (mostly cbs and Fox) through any of the features on a SmartTV? I'm not close enough to any cities to pick them up even with a modern boosted antenna.

If you buy one of those fire sticks and they're probably not that expensive you could plug them into a smart TV and get a whole bunch of channels and games

 

Legality it's probably a gray area and I know you said you like to do it by the book

 

If you got a fire stick and a Paramount Plus subscription you could probably watch local CBS games and some national

 

Your antenna might not reach the local CBS but your Paramount Plus subscription probably would

 

 

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On 9/3/2025 at 1:47 PM, Johnny Bravo said:

Again, so what?  How do any of these points you are making justify someone watching NFL games they haven’t paid for.

 

if you are saying it doesn’t justify that behavior,  then it doesn’t matter whether or not prices go up, go down or stay the same as a result of that theft.  It’s an interesting side discussion, but doesn’t change the fundamental thrust of the point that you were responding to…that people who watch NFL games they haven’t paid for are stealing and stealing is wrong-even when stealing from a corporation.

 

Broadcasting rights are sold to highest bidders which are then sold back to us the ticket holders and cable and streaming subscribers at increasingly higher prices across increasingly disparate platforms, yet...the league has congressional anti-trust exceptions carved out while relying upon HUGE tax dollar investments to fund stadium projects that billionaire owners could otherwise just pay for, seeing as the vast majority of profit goes primarily to the top private stakeholders (team owners, athletic brands, telecom conglomerates, giant hospitality vendors, etc)...

 

Sure, individual citizens are wrong for finding a way to watch that doesn't add yet another layer of unreturned investment. We've all already paid for this entertainment, many times over. 

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I used to torrent whole discographies of bands before services like Spotify came around. Now I can not only access at least 80% of the music I've ever bought or "stole" but get access to various suggested artists, app generated playlists, etc. all in one place.

Legally.

 

Meanwhile the NFL is trying to get its money not from actual viewership, which would be easy as hell if it was all in one streaming service, but from licensing games to every goddamn streaming service it can. That way they don't even have to care about viewership for another few years because they already got paid by 20 different corporations. If anything, the NFL isn't losing squat from piracy. The streaming services are the ones who'd lose money from it. But those same services chose to pay in advance for the "privilege" of showing a live major league sporting event for the slim chance they can get a few more idiots to sign up for their 18th paid streaming service. It's a bubble that's long overdue to pop.

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6 hours ago, Augie said:

 

That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read here, and that’s saying something. 

 

My 11 year old grandson knows the difference between right and wrong. I’m not going down any rabbit holes you suggest. I think at one point in your life you knew right from wrong without having to twist things around. 

 

Look, I don’t really care. I’m not making this out to be a big thing, and no lynchings are in order. But don’t kid yourself.  

if you piss sitting down is it even a piss ?

 

real life questions 

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On 9/3/2025 at 11:09 AM, Coach Tuesday said:


Perhaps the victims are the law-abiders who pay higher prices because others are stealing?  How is it any different from shoplifting from Target?  

Only the prices will never come down no matter how successful theft deterrents are. 

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