Hard Knocks Episode 3

[T.E.]

Ed Oliver was a lot better at remembering his horses' names than Antonio Cromartie was with his children's.

[Lost]

This show finally has some meat on it's bones.   Too bad we're on episode 3 of 5..

[BillsPride12]

8 minutes ago, Lost said:

This show finally has some meat on it's bones.   Too bad we're on episode 3 of 5..

Crazy there's only 2 episodes left already. Feels like we're just getting started now

[zow2]

They led off this episode with McD critique of the Giants game.  They will lead off next week with him critiquing the Chicago game in front of the room. That should provide some good content.  At least the starters played decent in the Friday scrimmage and held their own.  Overall a pretty good episode

[BuffBillsForLife]

The Bills heard the peoples' complaints about hard knocks being boring and decided to spice things up by losing 38-0 for the cameras. 

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

Definitely the best episode so far. Getting into the football side of it.

 

Lots of good content. Mustve KILLED Josh to lose that bippity bop game. He might ask Beane to let him personally be the one to cut that kid who won!

[JerseyBills]

7 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

The Bills heard the peoples' complaints about hard knocks being boring and decided to spice things up by losing 38-0 for the cameras. 

 

 

That's a good one but seriously is McDermott just not connecting with the young guys like he used to?

 

These guys make that NIL money now and maybe don't react the same as they did 5 years ago 

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

Sounds like some complacency settling in and McDermott tried to diplomatically approach it!

[PonyBoy]

I had a brutal day at work, I'll read the cliff notes to "cheer" me up tomorrow. 

 

[Amaru523]

1 hour ago, Captain_Quint said:

Spoiler alert....2nd game gets  worse! 

 

Right when they started showing the footage of that game, my 4 year old says "Dad, maybe they'll win this time". I wish it worked that way lol.

[Shortchaz]

Not to be a drama queen, I hope there isn’t something fishy going on. Seems like dudes aren’t buying in. 

[The Tomcat]

Best episode so far by far. 

 

Shows our ass kickn.

 

Will be interesting to see how our team responds.  

 

Hard knocks to blame? Too worried about being funny and not enough slober knocking? 

 

[T.E.]

18 minutes ago, Amaru523 said:

Right when they started showing the footage of that game, my 4 year old says "Dad, maybe they'll win this time". I wish it worked that way lol.

That's me every time I see a highlight of the Norwood kick.

12 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Not to be a drama queen, I hope there isn’t something fishy going on. Seems like dudes aren’t buying in. 

McDermott is pretty milquetoast and not a very inspiring speaker, but it hasn't seemed to matter before. I think that element of coaching might be overrated at the professional level.

[stevewin]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Definitely the best episode so far. Getting into the football side of it.

 

Lots of good content. Mustve KILLED Josh to lose that bippity bop game. He might ask Beane to let him personally be the one to cut that kid who won!

You could tell Josh wanted to win that so bad 

[billsfan714]

I like the D coach mentioning Josh has be on the field in 3 downs or less, our 3rd down defense was atrocious last year.

[NickelCity]

2 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

McDermott not allowing cameras in his office puts an end to that, and it’s nowhere near as interesting to me. 

 

Good. Let it be a big nothingburger as far as I'm concerned.

[Doc Brown]

I liked the part where Cook got the slow clap after he walked on the practice field after signing his contract. 

[Special K]

9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I liked the part where Cook got the slow clap after he walked on the practice field after signing his contract. 

 

Yeah, then the next part where Brady asked Beane if  Cook smiled when signing his contract, and Beane replied "I made him!"😁

[Mike in Horseheads]

Ciarlo sure is a small dude, but had some nice plays.  That Chicago game was as bad as it was live, just a fugly performance

[Sierra Foothills]

4 hours ago, Dr Krentist said:

I'm so glad I wasn't eating or drinking anything when Tre squeezed his socks

 

Actually it was during that scene where he seemed to allude to the effect that his injuries have had on his play... but I didn't hear what he said.

 

Anyone?

 

4 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I’ll watch eventually, but aside from it featuring the Bills, it’s weak. The best part about previous seasons is the tension and drama of rookies fighting to make the team and the elation or disappointment when they succeed or fail. McDermott not allowing cameras in his office puts an end to that, and it’s nowhere near as interesting to me. 

 

If you're talking about the "cut scenes" I really respect the organizations decision to not show those. To me that specific aspect of Hard Knocks is a tasteless exploitation.

 

3 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

That's a good one but seriously is McDermott just not connecting with the young guys like he used to?

 

These guys make that NIL money now and maybe don't react the same as they did 5 years ago 

 

I'm not sure what NIL money has to do with McDermott's ability to connect. I agree that the team generally doesn't seem very affected by his speeches.

 

2 hours ago, Shortchaz said:

Not to be a drama queen, I hope there isn’t something fishy going on. Seems like dudes aren’t buying in. 

 

It's funny that there were comments at the top of the topic about the quality of McDermott's speech. Relative to his own speaking abilities, it was better than average. But he's a poor speaker so the bar is low. I believe his anecdote in episode 2 about the coach who threw a chair through the window was partly an attempt to mitigate the fact that he can't inspire his players through speech. On the plus side, it also shows that he understands his limitations which in and of itself, is a show of wisdom.

 

2 hours ago, T.E. said:

McDermott is pretty milquetoast and not a very inspiring speaker, but it hasn't seemed to matter before. I think that element of coaching might be overrated at the professional level.

 

I agree with your first sentence. Your second sentence is an interesting question. Speech is a very powerful tool when used judiciously. While Marv never won a Super Bowl, he did take his team to 4 straight and his former players have his messaging and philosophies imprinted in their minds till they die. I doubt McDermott's players will remember much of anything he said.

 

I know I can be moved by a great speech and conversely, I often cringe when listening to people who try to, but can't deliver a message intended to move or motivate others.

 

Emotion definitely has a place in pro football and all things being equal, a coach who can inspire with words has an advantage over one who cannot.

 

Edited Wednesday at 06:01 AM by Sierra Foothills