HereComesTheReignAgain Posted August 13 Posted August 13 10 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: He has been talking since last season that he wants no part of paying a RB over $10 million a year and was more than willing to let Cook walk Not knowing what Schopp and the Bulldog are paid, I can still confidently say that they are both overpaid.  1 1 3 Quote
QB Bills Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Sorry but this is just stupid in so many ways. Should have let him walk at the end of this season. 2 1 2 1 7 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Just now, gjv said: Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. I disagree with all four of your points here. Â My guess is they front load the guaranteed money making it easier to cut bait if they have to in year 3 of the extension. 1 2 Quote
sunshynman Posted August 13 Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, Rousseauisnoschmo said: Now we can focus on the playoffs. 1 2 Quote
Mister Defense Posted August 13 Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBud said: Assuming that the information on this link is up to date, the Bills are last with meeting the salary cap (currently $600k over). 2026 - $4.5m over.  https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space  Something to keep in mind.  yes, thanks. But I think--and hope--that changes significantly in the coming year.  We should get a good sense of that, how the new young players are doing, by mid season.   Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted August 13 Posted August 13 3rd most guaranteed for a RB behind only Barkley and Jeanty (which barely counts since its a fully guaranteed rookie deal).  So most guaranteed money outside of Barkley.  And folks said he was taking bad advice from his dumb brother and idiot agent... Quote
GunnerBill Posted August 13 Posted August 13 18 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:  They'll have plenty of room.  If only a few of the defensive picks in the draft make it, become starters, there will be a windfall of money. No more Jones after this year, maybe no more White or Jackson, no more Esmeralda (depending on how he plays), no more....  Means $$$$$$$$  If more than that come through, well, the sky is the limit for what the Bills will be able to do.  I believe this is what they are counting on, and will use this money to then help the offense, first and foremost locking up O-line players in one of the best lines in the NFL.   Right now (before Cook details out) the Bills are less than a million over Spotrac the estimated cap of $307m. If recent years are anything to go by Spotrac has come in slightly on the conservative end prediction wise so my guess is the Bills right now would probably be very slightly under the cap.  But there are some easy options for freeing up money. Ed Oliver, Dion Dawkins and Josh Palmer are easy restructures that get you up above $30m of space, Taron Johnson and Dawson Knox are both guys who will either be restructured or possibly cut dependent on performances in 2025 (and can get you another $12m) and then you are probably cutting Curtis Samuel to save around $6.5m.  In contrast to this year the Bills don't have a ton of contracts coming up. That is largely because unlike this year where the 2022 draft class became due extension eligible and that meant Cook, Bernard, Shakir and Benford... the 2023 class that becomes eligible next spring is more questionable. Right now I think the right play on Kincaid is pick up the 5th year option then decide on whether to extend him AFTER 2026. O'Cyrus right now I'd allow to play out his deal and consider an extension before he hits free agency in spring 2027. Dorian Williams isn't even a starter right now - but might be about to step into a starting role in his final contract year if Milano doesn't come back.... so you make him earn it.  Therefore my spring 2026 priorities are retaining Conor McGovern and seeing whether there is a deal that makes sense for David Edwards too. 5 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted August 13 Posted August 13 This is really good news to wake up to. I will be positive for the entire day now. I swear. 3 8 2 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted August 13 Posted August 13 42 minutes ago, haroldwaide said: When McDermott was able to talk him into warming up last week, plus he returned to practice, I figured a reasonable deal was close.  Congrats to both sides. Now win the damn Lombardi Glad you mentioned it. This hasn't been talked about enough. Deal makes sense for both sides. I like it. Quote
Johnnycage46 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 8 minutes ago, gjv said: Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Â 7 minutes ago, gjv said: Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Based on the guaranteed amount in this agreement, and not knowing the specifics of the contract, it appears to me to be a 7.5 mil/yr deal with incentives. Â So, what EXACTLY are you trying to say??? 1 8 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) Thanks for screwing up the entire training camp and setting a good example for future players  Edited August 13 by HOUSE 1 3 Quote
Dan Darragh Posted August 13 Posted August 13 51 minutes ago, ***** said: hes 25 now.  Most RBs don’t make it to 29 His brother only had 75 rushing attempts after his age 27 season Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Just now, Dan Darragh said: His brother only had 75 rushing attempts after his age 27 season  Good news, we didnt sign Dalvin. 1 7 Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 13 Posted August 13 7.5 million per year guaranteed, that’s not so bad, way to go Beane!   Quote
BeastMaster Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Right in line with what I would consider a fair deal for both sides. Â Nicely done 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted August 13 Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:  Right now (before Cook details out) the Bills are less than a million over Spotrac the estimated cap of $307m. If recent years are anything to go by Spotrac has come in slightly on the conservative end prediction wise so my guess is the Bills right now would probably be very slightly under the cap.  But there are some easy options for freeing up money. Ed Oliver, Dion Dawkins and Josh Palmer are easy restructures that get you up above $30m of space, Taron Johnson and Dawson Knox are both guys who will either be restructured or possibly cut dependent on performances in 2025 (and can get you another $12m) and then you are probably cutting Curtis Samuel to save around $6.5m.  In contrast to this year the Bills don't have a ton of contracts coming up. That is largely because unlike this year where the 2022 draft class became due extension eligible and that meant Cook, Bernard, Shakir and Benford... the 2023 class that becomes eligible next spring is more questionable. Right now I think the right play on Kincaid is pick up the 5th year option then decide on whether to extend him AFTER 2026. O'Cyrus right now I'd allow to play out his deal and consider an extension before he hits free agency in spring 2027. Dorian Williams isn't even a starter right now - but might be about to step into a starting role in his final contract year if Milano doesn't come back.... so you make him earn it.  Therefore my spring 2026 priorities are retaining Conor McGovern and seeing whether there is a deal that makes sense for David Edwards too.  Great numbers and analysis on some of the important finance considerations coming up soon, things that will be vital in the coming years.  And you aren't even including the possible beneift$, which may be huge, related to the young players replacing the older vets.  The combo of both give me great hope for the Bills' future on a day now filled with that.   Quote
eball Posted August 13 Posted August 13 21 minutes ago, mannc said: Cook is the same age that OJ Simpson was entering the 1972 season, the start of a five-year run of the greatest RB play in NFL history.  Cook’s not too old, and he’s a very low mileage RB with no serious injury history.  Great point.  Only a hair over 400 carries the past two seasons.  I don’t think he’ll ever get more than 250 in a season, but I think the catches will go up.  Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 minute ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Business? Business.  1 Quote
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