PoundingDog Posted August 4 Posted August 4 3 hours ago, balln said: I surmise that the deal is super close. I somehow feel just the opposite. If the parties are getting close, like a break thru on the main points of the contract (usually the guaranteed money), I imagine it would be a more cordial response from Cook. As a matter of fact, I don't remember thruout the league where a contract is getting close while in camp, a player suddenly stopped attending practices (even just for no contact stretch, warming up stuff) - and in Cook's case, not even wearing the Bills gear (T sheet, cap, etc.) on the sideline. What exactly happened in the last 24 hours (maybe 48 since no practice Saturday) between Cook's camp and Beane? 1 Quote
billybob71 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 I'm gonna try that on the wife, "honey why didn't you switch the laundry?" ... business 3 2 Quote
Cash Posted August 4 Posted August 4 13 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Meatloaf is the Tyrell Shavers of entrees. Meatloaf is also the Tyrell Shavers of singers. (Complimentary) 2 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Not every player is as critical as Cook. I would argue McGovern is more critical than Cook. And I would bet his next contract will reflect that as I think he will make more than Cook 2 Quote
eball Posted August 4 Posted August 4 7 hours ago, PoundingDog said: What exactly happened in the last 24 hours (maybe 48 since no practice Saturday) between Cook's camp and Beane? I doubt anything “happened.” I think Cook is just using whatever leverage he has at this point to force the issue. He has been a “good soldier” all along, reporting to mandatory minicamp and practicing through the first two weeks of training camp. I’m on record that I believe Cook is extremely important to this offense. I trust that Beane will get something done, whether it is just sweetening the pot for this season or working out a 2-3 year extension. 2 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) 8 hours ago, PoundingDog said: I somehow feel just the opposite. If the parties are getting close, like a break thru on the main points of the contract (usually the guaranteed money), I imagine it would be a more cordial response from Cook. As a matter of fact, I don't remember thruout the league where a contract is getting close while in camp, a player suddenly stopped attending practices (even just for no contact stretch, warming up stuff) - and in Cook's case, not even wearing the Bills gear (T sheet, cap, etc.) on the sideline. What exactly happened in the last 24 hours (maybe 48 since no practice Saturday) between Cook's camp and Beane? I agree, I don't think its a sign a deal is close as I doubt Cook responds in a way that would cause so many questions. Hard Knocks has been filming there too, so wouldn't surprise me if this is a calculated move by him and his agent utilizing the bigger exposure of Hard Knocks now that the cameras are rolling there to try and create more buzz or leverage. So I don't think anything "happened" and this is just part of the plan - I think Cook did his part, came to camp, participated, showed his commitment to the team and goals of the season and hoped that it would generate enough good will there would be more movement on his deal or get closer. And the plan was, that if there wasn't by the time preseason started, then they would adjust and "sit in" and get more rigid with the situation. And quite honestly, its a fair approach IMHO - First, go show you are here, do the right things, out the good will out there and if that doesn't result in positive movement on the deal, you can then be more justified in taking a more stern stance. Personally, I think Cook has handled the situation up to this point pretty well. He has done and mostly said the right things. He has shown he wants to be here now and long term. That doesn't mean a deal will get done, end of the day it comes down to what he is asking for and where that aligns in the Bills cap plans and how they value him. But I don't have an issue with how he has handled himself regardless, and I think Beane and the FO have done a good job too in how they have been open about it, the challenges around it, and keeping an open dialogue with Cook and his agent through the process. It will be interesting to see more details and depth on this storyline through Hard Knocks too as its obviously going to be a prevalent one. Edited August 4 by Alphadawg7 3 Quote
ganesh Posted August 4 Posted August 4 14 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Seems weird to pull a “business” stunt at this stage of camp? Dont get what leverage he thinks he has, and the timing seems off anyway if that’s your play after going gung ho to start camp, but what do I know, I’m no agent. 🤨 Must be on the advice of his agent...probably they are stalled on the contract negotiations again 2 1 Quote
SoMAn Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) I doubt Beane feels any need to hurry this up. Why? He doesn't really need Cook doing much before the season starts as long as he's in-house and in the classroom to absorb any new wrinkles. Once the cutdowns are done and the roster is established in a few weeks, Beane will have a clearer idea of exactly how much cap room he has and what maneuvers he can execute to make it happen for Cook - if they can come to terms. The Bills are in the driver's seat. If there's not a new agreement, Cook is still under contract for 2025. He can play out this year and after that test his worth in the market. The Bills may be in a better situation cap-wise by that time. I believe they could make him a restricted free agent (correct me if I'm wrong) at which time they can retain him by matching any offers. If I'm the Bills, I wait. What if he blows out his knee in week 12, and is basically no good to the team leading into the playoffs and in for the first half of 2026? By the time he's 100% rehabbed in 2027 and going on 28 years old, he's on the back side of his career and probably not worth top RB money. What if there's no agreement, free agency looms, and he's incentivized to play his ass off this year? I like that scenario. A supercharged Cook. Great! By not rushing into a new contract, the Bills are in better negotiating position. Cook is a valuable piece of this offense, but not at the expense of not being able sign WRs or O-linemen. Fortunately, the Bills are now a desirable destination. If Cook is willing to take a few million more so he can play for some POS cellar-dweller team, power to him. Good riddance. Edited August 4 by SoMAn 2 Quote
ROCBillsBeliever Posted August 4 Posted August 4 17 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I can’t believe you brought meatloaf into this— an entirety unobjectionable food. Get some class. You're welcome... 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 4 Posted August 4 2 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: I would argue McGovern is more critical than Cook. And I would bet his next contract will reflect that as I think he will make more than Cook You could argue it, but... Cook is an elite weapon. Quote
DJB Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: You could argue it, but... Cook is an elite weapon. Is he though? Im not sure he’s even a top 10 RB in the league atm 1 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Billy Buffalo scared my daughter so much that he gave her some of the Buffalo Bills little people and signed it for her 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You could argue it, but... Cook is an elite weapon. He's a good player. But if I were to pay one, I would pay McGovern. Bills have one of the best o lines in the league, and McGovern is the quarterback of that. We could have Barry sanders back there as a weapon, but it wouldn't matter if the o line can't block 3 Quote
chris heff Posted August 4 Posted August 4 48 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Billy Buffalo scared my daughter so much that he gave her some of the Buffalo Bills little people and signed it for her Scares me too, giant headed blue MFer! 2 Quote
billsfan89 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 43 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: He's a good player. But if I were to pay one, I would pay McGovern. Bills have one of the best o lines in the league, and McGovern is the quarterback of that. We could have Barry sanders back there as a weapon, but it wouldn't matter if the o line can't block McGovern over Cook is my take too. I think McGovern being able to play center or guard is a big positive too. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 4 Posted August 4 22 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: you have dug yourself in a such a hole here that short of buying a Shavers jersey, nothing is going to help. A shovel with a longer handle might be useful… 2 Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 4 Posted August 4 21 hours ago, Dan said: Can I be worried about all the injury reports yet? No! 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted August 4 Posted August 4 3 hours ago, DJB said: Is he though? Im not sure he’s even a top 10 RB in the league atm Yes, he is. Cook is the player you'd be crying you wished the Bills had if he were on the Chiefs. 3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: He's a good player. But if I were to pay one, I would pay McGovern. Bills have one of the best o lines in the league, and McGovern is the quarterback of that. We could have Barry sanders back there as a weapon, but it wouldn't matter if the o line can't block It all fits together. O-line & RBs. But Cook is a guy who squeezes though tiny holes and then has the burst to get past everyone. We all think Johnson and Davis can fill in and be fine, but while they are effective as a change of pace, if either were our #1, our run game would suffer 1 Quote
mannc Posted August 4 Posted August 4 6 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: I would argue McGovern is more critical than Cook. And I would bet his next contract will reflect that as I think he will make more than Cook I think they may let McGovern walk. He will be expensive, and the Bills love their young o-line depth, with good reason. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 38 minutes ago, mannc said: I think they may let McGovern walk. He will be expensive, and the Bills love their young o-line depth, with good reason. Ya I think you're right. Plus Torrence contract coming up as well Quote
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