Training Camp 8/1 - Return of the Blue and Red

[Process]

9 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I’m confused, we have screenshots of reporters on social media stating that Allen was part of 7 on 7, but people are claiming he didn’t take the field at all tonight. 

He fully participated the first half and then nothing the second half. He was in for 7v7. Don't think he took any snaps 11v11.

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

No clue. I wasn’t trying to hate on him in particular. I just genuinely enjoy the evolution of fan perspective from draft, free agency, camp, preseason, etc. 

 

Its absolutely comical at times (skinny Kincaid, Dion is fat, Edmunds is so young, etc)

 

If I had to guess, I think he’ll end up around 50 catches, 800 yards. So roughly 3-50 a game 

so one or two touchdowns per game

Works for me

 In this offense thats not bad , 800. I expect a bit more. But I think this guy will develop into a critical catch type of player. The broken play comeback awareness

Sideline one handers and Tds in the corner of the EZ. Shakir will have more yards because Coleman is an honest target works for me

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

58 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Moore is a draft bust on his 3rd team in 5 seasons. He was held out for a week with injuries and last week was yelled at by Josh Allen for running the wrong route. I never understood the hype with him. As the 4th/5th WR on our depth chart sure I'm fine with that.

 

Coleman on the other hand has pretty clearly been the #1 pass catcher throughout camp. He needs to clean up some focus drops and keep building consistency. Everything is moving in a positive direction though. If you need to wait to see it in real games I respect that.

 

I kind of get it. Moore had a great pedigree in college and looked great in spring practices and early in camp.

 

In contrast fans had a sour taste in their mouth about Coleman's rookie year and spring and the first day of camp were rough but ho boy he has seriously broken out

 

Most damning about Moore is that they gave Shavers time with the 1s over Moore with some of the injuries

 

[LEBills]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Moore is a draft bust on his 3rd team in 5 seasons. He was held out for a week with injuries and last week was yelled at by Josh Allen for running the wrong route. I never understood the hype with him. As the 4th/5th WR on our depth chart sure I'm fine with that.

 

Coleman on the other hand has pretty clearly been the #1 pass catcher throughout camp. He needs to clean up some focus drops and keep building consistency. Everything is moving in a positive direction though. If you need to wait to see it in real games I respect that.

 

Agreed with Moore, Coleman will handily out produce him this year imo. 

 

As for Coleman, it sure sounds like he has had some great plays in camp but has been inconsistent (I just read these training camp threads and listen to some of the Bills podcasts daily so it’s all just second hand info for me). I expect him to be very boom and bust again this year.

 

My hope is that he can produce similar to year 2 George Pickens who I think is a more souped up version of Keon. A couple hundred yard games with several sub 50 yard games and a good stat line by the end of the year (~60 catches, 950 yards). With Josh throwing him the ball I think he can wind up there. 

Edited Saturday at 01:17 AM by LEBills

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Moore is a draft bust on his 3rd team in 5 seasons. He was held out for a week with injuries and last week was yelled at by Josh Allen for running the wrong route. I never understood the hype with him. As the 4th/5th WR on our depth chart sure I'm fine with that.

 

Coleman on the other hand has pretty clearly been the #1 pass catcher throughout camp. He needs to clean up some focus drops and keep building consistency. Everything is moving in a positive direction though. If you need to wait to see it in real games I respect that.

 

Exactly, and I hold this true of all players! Except Joshua. 

[BillsFan130]

18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It’s bubble wrap season for 17

He typically plays in these practices in years past if my memory is correct.

 

Not sure why he didn't this year 

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Moore is a draft bust on his 3rd team in 5 seasons. He was held out for a week with injuries and last week was yelled at by Josh Allen for running the wrong route. I never understood the hype with him. As the 4th/5th WR on our depth chart sure I'm fine with that.

 

Coleman on the other hand has pretty clearly been the #1 pass catcher throughout camp. He needs to clean up some focus drops and keep building consistency. Everything is moving in a positive direction though. If you need to wait to see it in real games I respect that.

 

We drafted the dude. How can anyone sincerely not want success for him , and Kincaid etc ?

 It's early

 So far so good with Keon 👍

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, stevewin said:

 

Actually 10's of thousands- including a majority of families with young kids who don't get to go to games and wanted nothing more than to see Josh.

 

I'm always a pro-Bills guy but sitting Josh was such a tone-deaf decision.  Inexplicable to me.  Just stupefying.  Even if he is on a pitch count roll him out there for 11-11 and have him throw a few bombs for the crowd.  Just a crazy decision 

 

 

 

 

 

Josh threw balls to the kids before practice started.   He participated in the 7-on-7 drills, so the fans, especially the kids, did get to see Josh for about half the practice, and some even got footballs.   I think you are complaining about nothing.  

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

That red helmet looks even better than i expected 😍

[NewEra]

Hoping to see some videos of Keons catches.  @HappyDays can you hack into the cameras at highmark and make that happen?

 

 

thanks again for all the work you’ve done for us this offseason….at the expense of your work

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Breakout Squad said:

Is it possible to still feed the pit?!

 

 

[Roundybout]

2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Thank you for finally answering the question so many of us have had for months - why hasn’t @Roundybout posted about the Coleman hype?

Say what you wish! I am merely sitting here with arms folded and one eyebrow raised. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

The hype is he is new.  Same fan base that had Martin Nance in the hall of fame. 

You spelled DaRick Rodgers wrong 

[NickelCity]

1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I kind of get it. Moore had a great pedigree in college and looked great in spring practices and early in camp.

 

In contrast fans had a sour taste in their mouth about Coleman's rookie year and spring and the first day of camp were rough but ho boy he has seriously broken out

 

Most damning about Moore is that they gave Shavers time with the 1s over Moore with some of the injuries

 

 

Wasn't Moore injured during that? I thought he was really standing out at camp, then had a miscommunication with Josh right before sitting out with leg soreness. 

[BananaB]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Moore is a draft bust on his 3rd team in 5 seasons. He was held out for a week with injuries and last week was yelled at by Josh Allen for running the wrong route. I never understood the hype with him. As the 4th/5th WR on our depth chart sure I'm fine with that.

 

Coleman on the other hand has pretty clearly been the #1 pass catcher throughout camp. He needs to clean up some focus drops and keep building consistency. Everything is moving in a positive direction though. If you need to wait to see it in real games I respect that.

 

Moore has been a pretty solid player considering his QB situation. Not sure how some people can’t see that. If Khalil Shakir spent 4 year in the same QB situation as Moore no one would know who the ***** he is. Sure we are talking about a 2nd round pick and a fifth but once you hit the practice field that ***** shouldn’t matter. McD atleast tries to make us believe that. I love Shakir, wanted to see more of him right from the first pre season game but he’s just a solid player in good situation. Honestly I haven’t heard much of Palmer until Moore was kept out of practice. Some things just take time. 

[eball]

1 hour ago, Process said:

He fully participated the first half and then nothing the second half. He was in for 7v7. Don't think he took any snaps 11v11.

Right, and he also went all the way around the stadium throwing with kids before practice. Not sure what great “disappointment” people are talking about. 
 

[Desert Bills Fan]

Some good notes and videos here:

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/buffalo-bills-blue-red-game-221632238.html
 

[Sierra Foothills]

3 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

If I had to guess, I think he’ll end up around 50 catches, 800 yards. So roughly 3-50 a game 

 

I appreciate you putting some numbers out there. How many TDs are you thinking?

 

[Big Turk]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Moore is a draft bust on his 3rd team in 5 seasons. He was held out for a week with injuries and last week was yelled at by Josh Allen for running the wrong route. I never understood the hype with him. As the 4th/5th WR on our depth chart sure I'm fine with that.

 

Coleman on the other hand has pretty clearly been the #1 pass catcher throughout camp. He needs to clean up some focus drops and keep building consistency. Everything is moving in a positive direction though. If you need to wait to see it in real games I respect that.

 

 

He's averaged 50 catches and about 530 yards with terrible QBs throwing him the ball and has missed some games in there as well. 

 

Full season averages would be about 55 catches and 600 yards. Sure, not elite production but not a bum either. 

 

There are far worse WRs drafted higher than him since he came out.

[BillMafia716ix]

5 hours ago, stevewin said:

 

Actually 10's of thousands- including a majority of families with young kids who don't get to go to games and wanted nothing more than to see Josh.

 

I'm always a pro-Bills guy but sitting Josh was such a tone-deaf decision.  Inexplicable to me.  Just stupefying.  Even if he is on a pitch count roll him out there for 11-11 and have him throw a few bombs for the crowd.  Just a crazy decision 

 

 

 

 

I think the whole blue-red thing as a whole is a lil overrated IMO. I went a few years back thinking they were going to actually scrimmage and it was nothing more than a glorified walk through practice. Definitely not worth sitting in traffic for.