Training Camp News - Around the League version

[Sierra Foothills]

9 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Yea this kid is a moron

 

9 hours ago, Brand J said:

Looked like he came in out of control, didn’t seem intentional. But yeah, you gotta keep your feet when around your own QB.

 

The video was inconclusive though it appeared Stewart was stumbling forward.

 

Per CBS Sports:

 

While it was instigated by Stewart's hit of Burrow, the fight was also an accumulation of Cincinnati's offensive line getting pushed around by Cincinnati's defensive line throughout practice. Stewart's hit of Burrow was the straw that broke the camel's back. 

"I think we got a little loose from an O-line perspective today," Bengals center Ted Karras said afterwards. "Some things transpired that warranted a response, and Lucas delivered that. I thought we handled it well overall. It wasn't like a shut down the practice type of scuffle. And probably about time we had one of those."

 

Karras was asked about Stewart and if he likes the level of intensity that the team's first-round pick brings to practice. 

"Hell yeah," Karras said. "Just be smarter. ... Great player. But, come on, man. That's all our hopes and dreams right there. And we got to be better, too. That's on us."

 

Karras is right. While Stewart hitting Burrow is inexcusable, the Bengals' offensive line has got to protect their Pro Bowl quarterback if Cincinnati is going to have success this season."

 

It seems like a pretty minor incident.

 

[Gregg]

Go Zach Wilson. 

 

Lions second team defense had the most dominant series of 7-on-7s I’ve ever seen.

Three plays:
- Ian Kennelly INT
- Erick Hallett near INT
- Nick Whiteside INT

Rough series from QB Zach Wilson

[Low Positive]

3 hours ago, Gregg said:

Go Zach Wilson. 

 

Lions second team defense had the most dominant series of 7-on-7s I’ve ever seen.

Three plays:
- Ian Kennelly INT
- Erick Hallett near INT
- Nick Whiteside INT

Rough series from QB Zach Wilson

Because this is TBD, the most negative message board in the NFL, I feel contractually obligated to point out that Zach Wilson beat the Bills twice in regular-season games. Now that that's out of the way......

[Malazan]

19 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Because this is TBD, the most negative message board in the NFL, I feel contractually obligated to point out that Zach Wilson beat the Bills twice in regular-season games. Now that that's out of the way......

 

He's won more games against the Bills than Tua has..

[RoscoeParrish]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

Because this is TBD, the most negative message board in the NFL, I feel contractually obligated to point out that Zach Wilson beat the Bills twice in regular-season games. Now that that's out of the way......

Are you okay?

 

feel like you have posted something like this every couple of hours.

[FLFan]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

Because this is TBD, the most negative message board in the NFL, I feel contractually obligated to point out that Zach Wilson beat the Bills twice in regular-season games. Now that that's out of the way......

Troll.  😂

[DCOrange]

On 8/12/2025 at 10:33 PM, Billl said:

3500 yards, 20 TDs, and 6 INTs plus 500 yards rushing is statistically a top 5 rookie season all time.  It was the second best season by a QB in the history of the franchise.

The raw numbers are fine...he didn't play well.

 

QBR (overall ranking in parentheses):

1. Jayden Daniels (4)
2. Drake Maye (17)
3. Bo Nix (18)
4. Caleb Williams (28)

Penix didn't start enough games to qualify for the season leaderboard, but his QBR from his 3 starts would have likely placed him around Maye and Nix.

 

Era-Adjusted ELO - I pulled each first rounder dating back to Josh Allen's class for fun (26 of them) and pulled their Era-Adjusted ELO through their first 17 starts (the number that Caleb has started), or if the 1st rounder didn't even make it to 17 starts in their career, then whatever their career ELO ended up being. Ranking amongst the 26 in parentheses:

1. Jayden Daniels - +63.6 per game (1)
2. Bo Nix - +53.7 per game (4)
3. Drake Maye - +9.8 per game (8)
4. Michael Penix - -35.0 per game (17)
5. Caleb Williams - -47.7 per game (18)

For reference, 9 of the 26 had a positive era-adjusted ELO through 17 starts: Daniels, Lamar, Herbert, Nix, Stroud, Jordan Love, Burrow, Maye, and Kyler Murray. The folks ranked below Caleb's rookie year are: Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, Dwayne Haskins, Zach Wilson, Bryce Young, and Josh Rosen.

 

PFF Grade (position rank in parentheses):

1. Jayden Daniels (6)
2. Michael Penix (8)
3. Bo Nix (22)
4. Drake Maye (40)
5. Caleb Williams (44)

And if you just want to go off of the eye test and watched the games, he simply did not play well. Now how much of the blame you want to place on him vs. poor coaching, OL play, etc. is up to you, but I don't think there's really any argument that he wasn't disappointing. I'm not saying he was a trainwreck or anything and I personally still like him quite a bit as a prospect. But yeah, he was hyped up to be one of the best QB prospects of all time and instead was arguably the worst in his class as a rookie.

[Gregg]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

Because this is TBD, the most negative message board in the NFL, I feel contractually obligated to point out that Zach Wilson beat the Bills twice in regular-season games. Now that that's out of the way......

 

The Jets have played the Bills tough at MetLife in recent seasons. Even in the Bills 23-20 win last year there the Jets missed 2 FG's and an extra point. I would expect the Bills will have another tough game with them when they go there in week 2.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

Rashee Rice hearing will be Sept 30th. So he gets to play in the Chiefs first four games, then is likely suspended. 

I expect a 4-game suspension with him set to return in week 9....vs. Buffalo. 

[Johnnycage46]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

Because this is TBD, the most negative message board in the NFL, I feel contractually obligated to point out that Zach Wilson beat the Bills twice in regular-season games. Now that that's out of the way......

 

Tell us you've never seen another fan's forum, without telling us you've never seen another fan's forum.

[gonzo1105]

6 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

The video was inconclusive though it appeared Stewart was stumbling forward.

 

Per CBS Sports:

 

While it was instigated by Stewart's hit of Burrow, the fight was also an accumulation of Cincinnati's offensive line getting pushed around by Cincinnati's defensive line throughout practice. Stewart's hit of Burrow was the straw that broke the camel's back. 

"I think we got a little loose from an O-line perspective today," Bengals center Ted Karras said afterwards. "Some things transpired that warranted a response, and Lucas delivered that. I thought we handled it well overall. It wasn't like a shut down the practice type of scuffle. And probably about time we had one of those."

 

Karras was asked about Stewart and if he likes the level of intensity that the team's first-round pick brings to practice. 

"Hell yeah," Karras said. "Just be smarter. ... Great player. But, come on, man. That's all our hopes and dreams right there. And we got to be better, too. That's on us."

 

Karras is right. While Stewart hitting Burrow is inexcusable, the Bengals' offensive line has got to protect their Pro Bowl quarterback if Cincinnati is going to have success this season."

 

It seems like a pretty minor incident.

 

 

Story of Shemar Stewarts career, getting close to a Quarterback but never getting a sack. Also if the Bengals defense is getting the better of any offense then uh oh. I know they have some talent on their Dline but come on.

[eball]

21 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Yea this kid is a moron

 

 

 

 

Talk about clickbait, and what the hell is a “Polymarket Football?”  Decked?  How about “stumbled, lost his balance, and brushed the glasslike figure of Burrow who immediately crumpled to the ground.”

 

[QCity]

Meanwhile, in Atlanta...

 

 

[LEBills]

20 minutes ago, QCity said:

Meanwhile, in Atlanta...

 

 

This is like Perna’s Super Bowl. I’m happy for him.

[Dan]

Where’s the Bills’ “camp” news?

Edited Friday at 12:29 AM by Dan

[ColoradoBills]

9 hours ago, Low Positive said:

Because this is TBD, the most negative message board in the NFL, I feel contractually obligated to point out that Zach Wilson beat the Bills twice in regular-season games. Now that that's out of the way......

This clinches it.  Zach Wison for Josh Allen, straight up.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

12 hours ago, Dan said:

Where’s the Bills’ “camp” news?

 

Daily threads

[Goin Breakdown]

16 hours ago, eball said:

 

Talk about clickbait, and what the hell is a “Polymarket Football?”  Decked?  How about “stumbled, lost his balance, and brushed the glasslike figure of Burrow who immediately crumpled to the ground.”

 

I was looking for a haymaker or something. 

[Dr Krentist]

He has A LOT of growing up to do. Josh would never.

[HappyDays]

Cam Ward slinging it: