Bosa/Rousseau/Epenesa/Jackson/Solomon......over/under 23.5 combined sacks???

[Doc Brown]

I was surprised Epenesa has had three straight seasons of 6 sacks.

 

I'll go:

Groot - 10.5

Epenesa - 6

Bosa - 4.5

Jackson - 3

Lawson/Miller - 2

[sven233]

Tell me how many games we get a healthy Bosa for and it will make this exercise a lot easier.

 

For entertainment purposes only, I am going to assume all of the guys on this list are healthy for at least 15 games.

 

Bosa: 9 sacks

Rousseau: 11 sacks

Jackson: 5 sacks

Epenesa: 4 sacks

Solomon: 3 sacks

 

Total: 32 sacks

 

I see you didn't include the rest of the D-line in this question.  But I fully expect Oliver to bounce back and get to 8 or so.  I also think the new guys can pick up any slack if Bosa goes down early and often.  I think we break 40 as a team and possibly get to 45+ as long as we have health on our side overall.

[James Can Cook]

If Bosa can be somewhat healthy, watch out!

[C.Biscuit97]

I would hope they go over this. Of course I bet Groot’s sack over every year only to get let down. 😌

3 minutes ago, JJGauna said:

If Bosa can be somewhat healthy, watch out!

I was on board with Bosa but he has less sacks in the last 3 years than AJ. At this pinne, he’s just a name but hopefully the group as a whole is good enough. 

[Fleezoid]

I'll say over. I'd swap Bosa and Rousseau's numbers from the OP. 

 

This goes without saying, but I'm sayin' anyway, a major factor for these numbers is the secondary. If they can stay mostly healthy and a couple guys step it up, the numbers will certainly be up. 

[MJS]

Hmm, I'm not sure Epenesa will be on the team. We'll see.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

Still waiting for Rousseau to become elite. He has it in him, 3 sacks in the season opener but now would be a great time to show it not only regular season but the playoffs as well.

[billsfan89]

Groot-9

Bosa-6

AJE-6

Solomon-2

Jackson-1.5

 

Total 24.5

 

I think ideally you want Groot at 10/11, Bosa to get 7-8 and Solomon or Jackson to have 3-4. I think Hoecht should also push 3-5.

[PoundingDog]

22 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

Still waiting for Rousseau to become elite.

That is an intriguing proposition. Is there a prototype precedent HoF he can look after?

 

Reggie White had similar reach and size, but White is much more powerful as a 300 pound man (interesting that he only bench pressed 10 reps though) who threw O-Lineman around. I don't see Rousseau bring that kind of power, ever (more of a tribute to what White was than a slap on Rousseau or anyone compared to him)!

 

 Bruce Smith has a similar reach but unbelievable quickness particularly the first step (get on the Stairmaster like Bruce did for his explosiveness Greg). Rousseau simply does not have that. 

 

Jason Taylor is another one often mentioned for Rousseau. But again the quickness he had is something Rousseau does not have. Taylor at one point was only 210 lb but got up to 240 lb range without losing all his speed and quickness. 

 

So Rousseau probably has to figure out his own way to best utilize his God given ability. He's at 267lb last I checked but I think he can easily put on more on his big frame. Can he simply overpower O-Lineman with one move then use his reach to harass the passer in less than 3 seconds? I bet that's what Beane & McDermott are hoping he figures that out - a CONSISTENT threat.

[ddaryl]

Over and it won't be close IMO. I think our improved DL will make this statement. I'm thinking 30+

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I have them at 23.5 sacks, what do I choose?!

 

Kidding. Went with under. Too much potentially working against it odds-wise.

 

Bosa could get injured. Rousseau never had more than 8. Epenesa probably good for 6-6.5, but there is a non-zero chance that he or Solomon are not on the opening day roster be it via trade or cut. 

[hikerprof2]

I'm trying to be realistic. 

 

Rousseau 9.5 sacks (incremental improvement but not double digit)

Bosa 5.5 sacks (health issues and limited use, but has supreme skills)

aj 5 SACKS (because that's what he always does)

Landon 3.5 sacks (still a rookie)

Solomon 2 sacks (even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while -not a big believer, but will get enough opportunity).

 

25.5

[YattaOkasan]

13 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Bills DEs had a total of 18.5 sacks in 2024, 23 in 2023 and 26 in 2022. 2022’s success was behind 8 each from Miller and Rousseau. 23.5 probably would require Bosa to stay healthy and ball out. 

Thanks but thats not counting Miller right (thought you mention Miller later...)?  I had 8 from Groot, 6 from miller, 6 from AJ,  and then Smoot and Solomon had another 4.5 and if we count Toohill he got 1 as well. 

 

Considering the underwelming nature of last years DE performance (and better DT play beside them), I think the over is pretty easy.  Also not sure why Hoecht is considered in this group.  Its all EDGE to me.  If groot takes a step forward (AGAIN) then thats half the total right there.  If Bosa stays healthy I think he easily surpasses his 5 from last year.  

[Special K]

22 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

I have them at 23.5 sacks, what do I choose?!

 

I usually try to make it so you can't "push"....... I guess I should've made it 23.6 sacks!!🤪

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, PoundingDog said:

That is an intriguing proposition. Is there a prototype precedent HoF he can look after?

 

Reggie White had similar reach and size, but White is much more powerful as a 300 pound man (interesting that he only bench pressed 10 reps though) who threw O-Lineman around. I don't see Rousseau bring that kind of power, ever (more of a tribute to what White was than a slap on Rousseau or anyone compared to him)!

 

 Bruce Smith has a similar reach but unbelievable quickness particularly the first step (get on the Stairmaster like Bruce did for his explosiveness Greg). Rousseau simply does not have that. 

 

Jason Taylor is another one often mentioned for Rousseau. But again the quickness he had is something Rousseau does not have. Taylor at one point was only 210 lb but got up to 240 lb range without losing all his speed and quickness. 

 

So Rousseau probably has to figure out his own way to best utilize his God given ability. He's at 267lb last I checked but I think he can easily put on more on his big frame. Can he simply overpower O-Lineman with one move then use his reach to harass the passer in less than 3 seconds? I bet that's what Beane & McDermott are hoping he figures that out - a CONSISTENT threat.

Wow to see Reggie White again like that just so dominate fills my heart with joy.

 I had forgotten what a game wrecker looked like. Beast 🤩

  Keeping hope alive for  our Boy though. He has the Heart

 Has a few things he needs to improve on still for sure but love the Kid

[3rdand12]

55 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

Thanks but thats not counting Miller right (thought you mention Miller later...)?  I had 8 from Groot, 6 from miller, 6 from AJ,  and then Smoot and Solomon had another 4.5 and if we count Toohill he got 1 as well. 

 

Considering the underwelming nature of last years DE performance (and better DT play beside them), I think the over is pretty easy.  Also not sure why Hoecht is considered in this group.  Its all EDGE to me.  If groot takes a step forward (AGAIN) then thats half the total right there.  If Bosa stays healthy I think he easily surpasses his 5 from last year.  

Good post.

Hoecht might be lined up all over is what I have read more than a few times. Can blitz  as a LB or off ball guy from anywhere.
And i bet McBeane paid and suffered that contract deal because they expect it too 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

They hit that number last year with Von getting 4, and Solomon, Toohill, and Smoot combining for 4.5.  So i went with the over.  

[DapperCam]

Groot - 8 (not a pure pass rusher)

Epenesa - 5

Bosa - 6 (limited snap count)

Jackson - 2 (rookie)

Solomon - 2 (low snap count)

 

Total: 23

 

So I take the under (just barely). I could see almost any of these guys surprising me and getting 10 though. Bosa I think they will keep on the shelf until later in the season when they ramp him up for the playoffs.

[BarleyNY]

1 hour ago, YattaOkasan said:

Thanks but thats not counting Miller right (thought you mention Miller later...)?  I had 8 from Groot, 6 from miller, 6 from AJ,  and then Smoot and Solomon had another 4.5 and if we count Toohill he got 1 as well. 

 

Considering the underwelming nature of last years DE performance (and better DT play beside them), I think the over is pretty easy.  Also not sure why Hoecht is considered in this group.  Its all EDGE to me.  If groot takes a step forward (AGAIN) then thats half the total right there.  If Bosa stays healthy I think he easily surpasses his 5 from last year.  

 

That counts Miller’s 8 sacks per ESPN. They have him listed as a LB, but he was a DE here. There was another DE listed as a LB I included too. 

[BullBuchanan]

14 hours ago, Special K said:

 

I was just projecting that AJ's snap count may be lower this year if Jackson is as good as we all think he will be......he may even lose snaps to Hoecht when he comes back from suspension.

 

I have Solomon's total low as well because he may be a healthy scratch most weeks unless there is an injury.

I don't even think Solomon is on the Team after week 6. It wouldn't shock me if he doesn't even make it out of camp. He belongs on the PS.