billsfan89 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Didn’t this come out right after the draft and it was cleared? I could be mistaken? Quote
scuba guy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: Not only was he not charged, the matter was investigated and dropped due to lack of evidence. The girl has posted on social media about it several times over the years but there has never been any corroborating evidence, so I don't know what she or the law firm are expecting to happen here. I would guess they're hoping for a quick settlement. Years ago a former tenant and friend sued me for falling on the sidewalk. Hence city sidewalk walk not mine. We counter sued for 10 times more and had both attorneys bar licenses suspended. Needless to say no pictures then no ambulance report. They wanted a new car. 1 Quote
DrBob806 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: You know there are levels right? Mike Tyson sexually assaulted a woman. So what Mike Tyson did and what allegedly Hairston is accused of doing....they're the same right? I'm done with homework assignments. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. Quote
Doc Brown Posted July 2 Posted July 2 33 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why would she sue a college freshman? It would be far more suspicious if she never reported it to the school or cops at the time. But she did I was kind of making fun of people who think that she waited for this particular moment to strike. The logic just doesn't play out that way. 2 Quote
paulmm3 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 From 2021? Only comes out after he gets drafted in the first round? Obviously will wait for all the information to come out but this seems like a money grab on first impression. 1 1 Quote
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted July 2 Posted July 2 I guess Maxwell wasn't "smart". I'm here all day folks. 1 2 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Seems like this was the definition of a he said-she said, which is always tough. One thing in favor of the accuser, was she went to the cops right away and this was when Hairston was a nobody (so no money to be had from an accusation). From Hairston’s side, it seems like there is no evidence, so it’s crappy for him if he didn’t do anything wrong. Just a tough situation all around. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 2 Posted July 2 21 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Edit: people mentioning the Ghost of Matt Araiza have reminded me that actually I'm wrong - the NFL can not discipline Hairston for something that happened before he was drafted. 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Oh, yeah, good point. The NFL can NOT discpline Hairston for something that happened before he was drafted. Ta-da wrong: that changed in 2023. "Nothing in this Policy should be read to limit the league’s authority to investigate or discipline potential Policy violations alleged to have occurred before a player is under contract or Draft-eligible." 1 1 Quote
first_and_ten Posted July 2 Posted July 2 7 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said: So, 4 years ago something happened. He was neither arrested nor charged with anything. He becomes a 1st round pick in the NFL and is slated to be paid millions et voila a civil suit is filed. Money grab, All. Day. Long. To be honest, we don't know what happened. We don't know Hairston very well, and we don't know the woman at all. The timing of the civil suit is suspect though. Only those two know what the truth is. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: To be honest, we don't know what happened. We don't know Hairston very well, and we don't know the woman at all. The timing of the civil suit is suspect though. Only those two know what the truth is. It is NOT suspect. He literally had nothing before this so there was no point in a civil lawsuit until now. The bigger timing tip-off is how she went to the police IMMEDIATELY. 10 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Do you have a link. I found the opposite: https://sports.yahoo.com/personal-conduct-policy-opens-door-154327245.html “College football players, beware. Anything you do before entering the NFL could result in punishment from the NFL. The 2023 version of the Personal Conduct Policy includes language that opens the door to the possibility of imposing discipline on a player for conduct that happened before he joined the NFL. That amounts to a dramatic change to the prior Personal Conduct Policy.” This article is from 2023. I do not expect the NFL to discipline Hairston, but it sure looks like they could. It makes sense that they’d want the option to do so. What it the next elite college QB prospect is a PR nightmare? They’d want the ability to do something about that player. Even now that they can, I'd be surprised if they did since there were no criminal charges. 1 Quote
first_and_ten Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: It is NOT suspect. He literally had nothing before this so there was no point in a civil lawsuit until now. The bigger timing tip-off is how she went to the police IMMEDIATELY. I could be wrong, but I read the police had no record of a reported sexual assault. I know she claims that she reported it, but I read that the police had no record of a sexual assault from her. Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It is NOT suspect. He literally had nothing before this so there was no point in a civil lawsuit until now. The bigger timing tip-off is how she went to the police IMMEDIATELY. Even now that they can, I'd be surprised if they did since there were no criminal charges. Agree with all of this. No criminal charges, only one alleged victim and no big PR issues means the NFL is better letting this one go. No need to keep it in the ews. 5 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: I could be wrong, but I read the police had no record of a reported sexual assault. I know she claims that she reported it, but I read that the police had no record of a sexual assault from her. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45644674/woman-accuses-bills-maxwell-hairston-sexual-assault This article says that she reported the alleged assault “within hours” to law enforcement. Quote
first_and_ten Posted July 2 Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Agree with all of this. No criminal charges, only one alleged victim and no big PR issues means the NFL is better letting this one go. No need to keep it in the ews. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45644674/woman-accuses-bills-maxwell-hairston-sexual-assault This article says that she reported the alleged assault “within hours” to law enforcement. Right in that very article: A spokeswoman for the Lexington police said the department did not have a report matching a sexual assault allegation against Hairston. A spokesperson for the Fayette County Sheriff's Office did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday. Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 2 Posted July 2 12 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: Right in that very article: A spokeswoman for the Lexington police said the department did not have a report matching a sexual assault allegation against Hairston. A spokesperson for the Fayette County Sheriff's Office did not immediately respond to requests for comment Wednesday. Conflicting reports. Or maybe she spoke with campus police o the Fayette County Sheriff’s office. Quote
3rdand12 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 58 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: I guess Maxwell wasn't "smart". I'm here all day folks. Is that you agent 99 ? lol Quote
FireChans Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Beane must’ve felt comfortable knowing this was a possibility and drafting Hairston in the first round anyway Quote
BigAl2526 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So if I’m reading this correctly, it was fully investigated and he was not criminally charged. Could he still be suspended or placed on the dreaded list of Roger? The burden of proof is different for civil lawsuits as opposed to a criminal trial. If it is a criminal trial a conviction should only be made if a crime is proved beyond a reasonable doubt. If it is a civil trial, a decision is made based on a preponderance of evidence. In other words, if it seems more likely that he did it than not, the judge will find for the plaintiff. Roger Goodell will do whatever he feels like. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: 3 parties with incentives to not prosecute even if he is guilty. The school can be sued if they do not take appropriate action. And the DA has zero reason not to prosecute. 1 1 Quote
Dafan Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Should have kept Bojo. He's better. Civil suit could go to trial.... I agree, but was making a statement to the part where they said this needs to have a trial. Which i disagree. Quote
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