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19 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

Up next.......a new contract with all of it guaranteed!

Does Cleveland need a kicker?

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58 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

And yet radio silence on KC’s Rasheed Rice by the NFL! 

 

That's because the legal process hasn't played out with Rice yet. The league doesn't hand out suspensions until after criminal charges or civil suits have been completed. Save for heinous acts caught on video (like with Ray Rice), that will have the league put you on an exempt list until things play out.

 

To suspend before legal matters are resolved would be to assist Prosecution or Plaintiff's attorneys by giving them an institution to point to that has already completed their own investigation and held the player responsible for the crime or allegation.

 

Rashee Rice's criminal matters have yet to be resolved. Justin Tucker's allegations didn't include criminal charges or a civil suit. This is also why Von Miller got suspended fairly quickly compared to others - his girlfriend didn't go forward with criminal charges or sue him.

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34 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That's because the legal process hasn't played out with Rice yet. The league doesn't hand out suspensions until after criminal charges or civil suits have been completed. Save for heinous acts caught on video (like with Ray Rice), that will have the league put you on an exempt list until things play out.

 

Rashee Rice's criminal matters have yet to be resolved. Justin Tucker's allegations didn't include criminal charges or a civil suit. This is also why Von Miller got suspended fairly quickly compared to others - his girlfriend didn't go forward with criminal charges or sue him.

 

Deshaun Watson (2022 Suspension) - Watson faced multiple civil lawsuits, but no criminal charges were filed. The NFL’s decision was based on its investigation, which preceded the resolution of most civil cases.

 

Alvin Kamara (2023 Suspension) - Kamara’s legal case was ongoing at the time of the suspension. The NFL’s suspension was announced in August 2023, based on its investigation rather than waiting for full legal resolution.

 

Chris Lammons (2023 Suspension) - Lammons faced legal proceedings that were not fully resolved at the time of the NFL’s suspension. The league acted based on its own findings.

 

Zay Jones (2024 Suspension) - ones was arrested in November 2023 for misdemeanor domestic battery in Florida. The charges were dropped in March 2024, but the NFL’s investigation determined that a suspension was warranted based on its findings. The suspension was announced before any further legal actions, such as civil suits, were resolved.

 

J.C. Jackson (2024 Suspension) - Jackson had an arrest warrant issued in Massachusetts in September 2023 for failing to appear at a court hearing related to 2021 reckless driving and speeding charges. The NFL’s suspension was based on its investigation into his overall conduct, including the 2023 warrant, and was imposed before the legal case was resolved.

 

Von Miller (2024 Suspension) - Miller was arrested in November 2023 for an alleged assault on his pregnant girlfriend, but no formal charges were filed by the Dallas County District Attorney’s Office. The NFL’s investigation concluded that Miller violated the policy, leading to the suspension before any further legal proceedings.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

IDK, but this kind of opportunity is hard to pass up! 

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Coming soon to a Cleveland massage parlor waiting room...

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3 hours ago, Malazan said:

 

Deshaun Watson (2022 Suspension) - Watson faced multiple civil lawsuits, but no criminal charges were filed. The NFL’s decision was based on its investigation, which preceded the resolution of most civil cases.

 

Alvin Kamara (2023 Suspension) - Kamara’s legal case was ongoing at the time of the suspension. The NFL’s suspension was announced in August 2023, based on its investigation rather than waiting for full legal resolution.

 

Chris Lammons (2023 Suspension) - Lammons faced legal proceedings that were not fully resolved at the time of the NFL’s suspension. The league acted based on its own findings.

 

Zay Jones (2024 Suspension) - ones was arrested in November 2023 for misdemeanor domestic battery in Florida. The charges were dropped in March 2024, but the NFL’s investigation determined that a suspension was warranted based on its findings. The suspension was announced before any further legal actions, such as civil suits, were resolved.

 

J.C. Jackson (2024 Suspension) - Jackson had an arrest warrant issued in Massachusetts in September 2023 for failing to appear at a court hearing related to 2021 reckless driving and speeding charges. The NFL’s suspension was based on its investigation into his overall conduct, including the 2023 warrant, and was imposed before the legal case was resolved.

 

Von Miller (2024 Suspension) - Miller was arrested in November 2023 for an alleged assault on his pregnant girlfriend, but no formal charges were filed by the Dallas County District Attorney’s Office. The NFL’s investigation concluded that Miller violated the policy, leading to the suspension before any further legal proceedings.

 

 

This is just factually wrong. I don't know why you end each of these with cases not being resolved when a little research on each Criminal case shows that they were indeed resolved. 

 

Deshaun Watson: Reached settlements on 20 of 24 civil suits on 6/21/22. 3 more cases settled on 7/31/22. Suspended 6 games in August of 2022 for cases settled. Revisited by the NFL and extended to 11 games. 

 

Alvin Kamara: Arrest on 2/6/22. Took Plea Deal pleading guilty on 7/11/23 to Misdemeanors. Suspended on 8/4/23 after case resolved. 

 

Chris Lammons: Warrant issued for arrest on 2/16/22. Took Plea Deal pleading guilty to Misdemenors on 7/11/23. Suspended on 8/4/23 after case resolved.

 

Zay Jones: .... you literally say in your post that the charges were dropped in March of 2024. He was suspended on 8/23/24 after case resolved. How can you say the charges were dropped but the legal case wasn't resolved?

 

J.C. Jackson: Arrested on 9/25/23. Case resolved in early October 2023 after appearing in court and completing an online course for reckless driving. Suspended on 8/23/24 after case resolved.

 

Von Miller: Arrested on 11/30/23. Girlfriend recanted her statement of wrongdoing on Miller's part, so no charges were filed. Never a case to even resolve. Suspended in 10/2024.

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4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That's because the legal process hasn't played out with Rice yet. The league doesn't hand out suspensions until after criminal charges or civil suits have been completed. Save for heinous acts caught on video (like with Ray Rice), that will have the league put you on an exempt list until things play out.

 

To suspend before legal matters are resolved would be to assist Prosecution or Plaintiff's attorneys by giving them an institution to point to that has already completed their own investigation and held the player responsible for the crime or allegation.

 

Rashee Rice's criminal matters have yet to be resolved. Justin Tucker's allegations didn't include criminal charges or a civil suit. This is also why Von Miller got suspended fairly quickly compared to others - his girlfriend didn't go forward with criminal charges or sue him.

There is also a rule called “The Taylor Swift’s boyfriend plays on my team” exemption.

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10 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

There is also a rule called “The Taylor Swift’s boyfriend plays on my team” exemption.

 

I know as Bills fans some of us want to make out that there's some preferential treatment to the Chiefs in Rice's situation. That's simply not the case.

 

They are consistent in how they handle suspensions when it comes to Criminal Cases. @Malazan argument that they suspend before resolution of Criminal Charges is proven wrong by simple research on the cases of each player.

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3 hours ago, K D said:

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Coming soon to a Cleveland massage parlor waiting room...

Here's what I don't understand.  See the Spiderman with the name "Tucker"?  Look at the iconography on his back.  The "bug" has six legs, right?  Count 'em. Six.  That's an INSECT.  Spiders are not "INSECTS".  They're ARACHNIDS.  They have EIGHT F-ING LEGS.

 

The character's isn't "INSECTMAN".  It's "SPIDERMAN".

 

This is pretty basic kindergarten sh!t.  What moron does that?

 

Sh!t like that drives me batsh!t.  Dammit.

 

Anyway, back to the offseason.

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