Max Hairston injury

[Simon]

14 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

That said, he had 6 tackles and clinched the Ravens playoff win with an onside kick recovery, so there is some ingratitude here.

 

I'm certainly glad he cleanly fielded a ball that rolled right to him, but there is probably a reason he had that many tackles.

I think if you rewatched film of that game, you'd probably see that he genuinely had a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day in coverage.

[Mr. Wonderful]

He short.  Really short.

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I'd take Rasul over all three without hesitation and I would hate the idea of him being our CB2.  The Rams gave Tre a $3.25m guaranteed and he was so bad they just released him mid season.  Dane Jackson was historically bad last year and the Panthers are now eating $1.5m in dead cap space.  We know nothing about Strong yet besides him being a 6th round pick.  If Hairston doesn't get the starting role look for a CB trade around week 7.

 

 

Yeah, me too. Rasul over all three of these guys. But maybe not by a whole ton.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, ShakAttack said:

Dorian Strong wins the job over Hairston.

 

it’s Kaiir Elam vs Benford all over again. Guys both players were even drafted in the same rounds I mean come on we did it to ourselves 🤣

 

I haven't even heard Dorian Strong's name since rookie minicamp. The reports on Hairston are that he's been getting better and better with each practice and has been mixing in with the 1s. It's nothing like Elam/Benford where early on they were clearly in a competition against each other. I'll be shocked if Hairston isn't the week 1 starter. If it's not him it will be White. Strong is fighting against Dane Jackson to make the roster.

[BigDingus]

4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Tre White was horrendous in 2024 and Dane Jackson was worse........arguably the worst CB in the entire NFL last year.   He had a 33.9 pff grade. 

 

I had to laugh when I perused the Sammy Watkins trade thread a while back and you chimed in about how good Jordan Matthews was.   

 

Have you ever thought that a player the Bills have wasn't better than one they no longer had? 😂 

 

Exactly. Pretty sure last year he told me Curtis Samuel would have a better season than Stefon Diggs... 

 

I said no way that's happening unless Diggs gets injured, but even with an injury, he STILL had a better season 😂

 

Maybe it was someone else, but I'm almost certain it was him arguing with me.

[kitchen sink]

15 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Love the depth , White, Strong and Dane

 

Feel like all 3 are better than Rasul. He was awful last year 

I think we all focus a lot on the big name players, but the Bills organization's focus and delivery on depth has been one of if not the best in the league in the last three or four years.  In a sport where the injury rate approaches 100%, the value of this is difficult to overstate.

[The Jokeman]

7 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

Exactly. Pretty sure last year he told me Curtis Samuel would have a better season than Stefon Diggs... 

 

I said no way that's happening unless Diggs gets injured, but even with an injury, he STILL had a better season 😂

 

Maybe it was someone else, but I'm almost certain it was him arguing with me.

To be fair Samuel was injured most of the season himself. 

[GunnerBill]

9 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Oh.  He's washed but I'd still take him over White or Jackson.  It's like would you rather have a McDonald's burger or two left over McDonald burgers?

 

I wouldn't. He is toast that is burnt on both sides.

[JP51]

8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I haven't even heard Dorian Strong's name since rookie minicamp. The reports on Hairston are that he's been getting better and better with each practice and has been mixing in with the 1s. It's nothing like Elam/Benford where early on they were clearly in a competition against each other. I'll be shocked if Hairston isn't the week 1 starter. If it's not him it will be White. Strong is fighting against Dane Jackson to make the roster.

Apologizing to the board in advance... At some point during the season I am going to confuse Dorian Williams and Strong... I just freaking know it....  like what defense has two guys named Dorian for crissakes... LOL 

Edited yesterday at 01:01 PM by JP51

[Big Blitz]

3 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Apologizing in advance... At some point during the season I am going to confuse Dorian Williams and Strong... I just freaking know it....  like what defense has two guys named Dorian for crissakes... LOL 

 

Will it be as confusing as year 1 of Bernard and Benford?   
 

Or which Edwards is playing Guard.  
 

 

[YattaOkasan]

32 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Apologizing to the board in advance... At some point during the season I am going to confuse Dorian Williams and Strong... I just freaking know it....  like what defense has two guys named Dorian for crissakes... LOL 

I apologize for my future use of Spencer Hawes to refer to Jackson Hawes

[BADOLBILZ]

12 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I will be really curious to see how Tre does in camp. He looked washed last year. But maybe an extra year away from that Achilles will get him back to a serviceable level? 

 

 

I'm not too intrigued.  

 

Even if Tre White had stayed healthy for his entire career he would be aging out at CB.

 

He could get healthier and worse at the same time.

 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Will it be as confusing as year 1 of Bernard and Benford?   
 

Or which Edwards is playing Guard.  
 

 

SO... that is exactly what I am referring to... lol in both instances I have to stop talking or typing... look up and over to the left and think to make sure I am getting the right player... Now, I have two Dorians... I am cooked and I know it. 

[ShakAttack]

10 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I haven't even heard Dorian Strong's name since rookie minicamp. The reports on Hairston are that he's been getting better and better with each practice and has been mixing in with the 1s. It's nothing like Elam/Benford where early on they were clearly in a competition against each other. I'll be shocked if Hairston isn't the week 1 starter. If it's not him it will be White. Strong is fighting against Dane Jackson to make the roster.

We shall see. I sincerely hope I am wrong, but something like this may impact Hairston’s chance to be the day one starter we all expected. Off season reps are extremely important for rookies. And someone brought up a good point earlier about Cole Bishop and how his off season injury last year had a significant impact on his preparation and ability to compete for the starting job. I really, really hope this injury to Hairston does not linger. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

This was my only problem with this pick is his availability to be on the field and injury red flags 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

I'm still trying to remember if it was 'Edmunds' or 'Edmonds'.  I still need to RSVP his invite for his high school graduation.

[JP51]

8 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

I'm still trying to remember if it was 'Edmunds' or 'Edmonds'.  I still need to RSVP his invite for his high school graduation.

I didnt know that he must be graduating early... not something a lot of 16 year olds can do... impressive! 

[Buffalo Junction]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I wouldn't. He is toast that is burnt on both sides.

Rasul definitely hit a wall if there wasn’t some unreleased injury. Plus, I think a lot of folks here are focusing on Dane Jackson’s performance away from the team more than his performance in McDermott’s scheme. He’s a serviceable backup on this squad. Tre I’m not so sure about. I’m honestly surprised they brought him back, but if he can be a coach on the field for these rookies during camp and the preseason there’s some hidden value. 

[JGMcD2]

19 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

This was my only problem with this pick is his availability to be on the field and injury red flags 

 

 

[Beck Water]

11 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I'm certainly glad he cleanly fielded a ball that rolled right to him, but there is probably a reason he had that many tackles.

I think if you rewatched film of that game, you'd probably see that he genuinely had a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day in coverage.

 

Going back and reading what I wrote, I see how it lends itself to your interpretation.  I thought I'd been clearer that I thought he was washed by the end of last season.  (I also thought that the Bills defense as a whole had a Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day, as shown by the 416 yds of offense the Bills gave up.  That weren't all on Douglas.....).  Anyway, we agree, Douglas was not playing well by the end of last season.

 

But what were the options?  Would you rather have seen Elam in the Ravens playoff game?  My point was he went out there hurt back and all, took some angles that let him make tackles and did that clean field that won the game, so I, at least, put a bit of respect on him for that.