ProcessTruster Posted Sunday at 11:04 AM Posted Sunday at 11:04 AM (edited) 18 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Why? They can have a horrible year and be in line to draft Arch Manning .. that would actually be an amazing result. if you are going to tank for a QB, this is the year to do it, with the strength of next years QB draft class. timing is everything Edited Sunday at 11:05 AM by ProcessTruster 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted Sunday at 12:17 PM Posted Sunday at 12:17 PM 18 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: Kirk Cousins just started salivating... According to Spotrac, he's made $196 million in his career. The 'laugh' reaction was for the Cousins observation. So, what's next for Carr? RuPaul's Drag Race? 🤔 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted Sunday at 12:23 PM Posted Sunday at 12:23 PM 11 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said: On a different note... "“Kellen Moore declares open an QB competition among Tyler Shough, Jake Haener, and Spencer Rattler” Are those QBs, or characters out of GTA5? 🤔 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted yesterday at 01:51 AM Posted yesterday at 01:51 AM On 5/11/2025 at 2:41 AM, Bills!Win! said: David Carr was a bust. Did they think Derek and his large hateable forehead would be any different? David Carr was a bust largely because Houston figured an offensive line was more a guideline than a requirement. He had the confidence and the poise pounded out of him. That team failed him. 3 Quote
Jauronimo Posted yesterday at 02:21 PM Posted yesterday at 02:21 PM On 5/10/2025 at 12:15 PM, Sierra Foothills said: According to Spotrac, he's made $196 million in his career. My heart goes out to him. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted yesterday at 03:24 PM Posted yesterday at 03:24 PM 12 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: David Carr was a bust largely because Houston figured an offensive line was more a guideline than a requirement. He had the confidence and the poise pounded out of him. That team failed him. As important as John Brown and Beasley were when they were brought in to help josh in year 2. They also replaced Groy/Bodine with Morse, Ducasse with Spain, and Mills with Ford. They also added depth with Feliciano, Nsekhe and Spencer long. They definitely whiffed on moving on from Teller, but they did use those picks to help acquire Diggs, and added Bass in the 6th. 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM Posted yesterday at 03:30 PM 13 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: David Carr was a bust largely because Houston figured an offensive line was more a guideline than a requirement. He had the confidence and the poise pounded out of him. That team failed him. Going to an expansion franchise is insanely hard to do as a rookie QB and David Carr also had an issue where the expansion draft rules weren't that good for the Texans which meant that getting the franchise off to a hot start like the Jags and Panthers was not gonna happen (I think the other owners basically didn't want to be too favorable for expansion teams so they defacto punished the Texans and returning Browns). I would love to have seen Derrick Carr with the Texans team that Matt Schuab had. Schuab had a lot better O-line and a good complement of weapons and a defense that improved somewhat. Carr was just given Andre Johnson and not much else. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted yesterday at 07:48 PM Posted yesterday at 07:48 PM You know there is a theory Carr did this on purpose to get out of the contract, and thinks after a years rest he might come back to another team. IDK. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago This is why Saleh is too dumb to ever get another HC shot: "At the start of the 2023 offseason, the Jets didn’t actually believe acquiring Aaron Rodgers was realistic. Getting Derek Carr, however, was — especially after the Raiders released him a month before free agency. The Jets visited with Carr in Florham Park and a group that included head coach Robert Saleh took him out to dinner, during which they told Carr they felt he could make it to the Hall of Fame if he came to New York. They had visions of Carr leading the Jets back to the playoffs while also mentoring Wilson behind the scenes." lol Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This is why Saleh is too dumb to ever get another HC shot: "At the start of the 2023 offseason, the Jets didn’t actually believe acquiring Aaron Rodgers was realistic. Getting Derek Carr, however, was — especially after the Raiders released him a month before free agency. The Jets visited with Carr in Florham Park and a group that included head coach Robert Saleh took him out to dinner, during which they told Carr they felt he could make it to the Hall of Fame if he came to New York. They had visions of Carr leading the Jets back to the playoffs while also mentoring Wilson behind the scenes." lol I just don't think he's HC material tbh. I feel like coaching is a mixed bag of - X's and O's, gamecalling, and leadership. Seeing a sirianni win a super bowl to me indicates that leadership certainly has different types for different teams, but i never got the vibe that Saleh was a particularly good leader. The clueless look on his face when things didn't go right extended to the media, and he couldn't handle the ownership and management meddling very well. Just a football coach, which to me seems like a lifetime coordinator. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 5/12/2025 at 11:24 AM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: As important as John Brown and Beasley were when they were brought in to help josh in year 2. They also replaced Groy/Bodine with Morse, Ducasse with Spain, and Mills with Ford. They also added depth with Feliciano, Nsekhe and Spencer long. They definitely whiffed on moving on from Teller, but they did use those picks to help acquire Diggs, and added Bass in the 6th. The argument I always make when the team "sets up a QB to fail" I always point to that 2018 Bills team. Drake Maye last year is now the 2nd best example. If you've got it you got it imo. A team can ruin a middle of the road NFL starter though. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Derek Carr has shown some serious flashes of talent... Remember early last season when the Saints came out and dropped 45+ points on the first 2 opponents? Now one was Carolina but the other was Dallas, in Dalls, and they won 44-19. Carr's stats in those games weren't as flashy as you would think given the scores, but he played some good ball in New Orleans and also obviously for the Raiders at times. Injuries did him in. It seemed like he was always getting hurt, the trying to play through injuries, and it cost him in terms of consistency. Quote
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