Malaki Starks wants to pick off Josh Allen most

[TheBrownBear]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No I don't think it did. I think Josh Allen being in a better place mentally away from football and in a better designed offense that sought to simplify the decisions for him and reduced the opportunities for him to get himself into trouble were the factors behind it. Oh and just his insane level of natural talent. I think Josh Allen is a guy with incredible natural drive and determination to win. I don't think he needs people talking about him to foster that. 

Exactly.  Josh just loves to play and win.  Like all the greats, he's fiercely competitive regardless of the sport or game, and this has been well documented going back to his high school and college years.

[MJS]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

As is well known on these boards I think bulletin board stuff is total mumbo jumbo placebo effect. It has no impact on performance. 

I disagree there. Players say it has an impact and I believe it does. Is the impact huge? Sometimes. In very rare situations. For instance, Jordan Phillips playing really well against the Dolphins for the first couple times we faced them after he came here. Clearly, he had extra motivation and that manifested in his play on the field. Usually, though, the impact is small. But I do think it has an impact.

 

Players are human, and they play a very physical game that causes a lot of mental and physical stress. They use stuff the media or other players/coaches say to get fired up and motivated. They say it has an impact and I believe them.

 

I think this particular case is nothing, though. It is not like the Ramsey situation at all. Nor do I really think Allen was targeting Ramsey in those games. I think there is too much on a QB's plate to be focused on that, but I could be wrong.

[PromoTheRobot]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Behave. He isn't calling out the MVP. He is doing exactly the opposite. He is saying that guy's the best so that's the one I wanna get. 

 

You have to be seriously sensitive to have a problem with this.

My first comment was it's just a kid saying he wants to take on the best. Totally understandable. But to name drop Allen brings a level of attention he may not want as a rookie.

[May Day 10]

I dont think anyone would have though of/said JP Losman or EJ Manuel

[DCofNC]

6 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Josh Allen after dropping 3TD passes and hurdling him once the first time they play:

 

 

 

 

Nah, he won’t hurdle the little guy, lay the wood baby!

[eball]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

As is well known on these boards I think bulletin board stuff is total mumbo jumbo placebo effect. It has no impact on performance. 

 

Tell that to the Washington Redskins’ OL prior to Super Bowl XXVI.  It has been widely reported that they took Chuck Dickerson’s comments to heart and were ultra-motivated for that game.  

 

Is it possible to measure the impact of bulletin board motivation?  Of course not.  But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, eball said:

 

Tell that to the Washington Redskins’ OL prior to Super Bowl XXVI.  It has been widely reported that they took Chuck Dickerson’s comments to heart and were ultra-motivated for that game.  

 

Is it possible to measure the impact of bulletin board motivation?  Of course not.  But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

 

Don't even have to go that far back. 

 

Just a couple seasons ago when we were set to host KC in the playoffs Dawkins made some statements about the Chiefs never having to have to win on the road in the playoffs let alone in the BILLS HOUSE. 

 

Immediately after the game sever of the Chiefs quoted those statements in the post game interviews and locker speeches. They took it personally. They used it as motivation. 

[GunnerBill]

26 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Tell that to the Washington Redskins’ OL prior to Super Bowl XXVI.  It has been widely reported that they took Chuck Dickerson’s comments to heart and were ultra-motivated for that game.  

 

Is it possible to measure the impact of bulletin board motivation?  Of course not.  But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

 

 

It's all myth and legend. Players might think they played better because they felt some sort of slight before the game. But they didn't. It makes for good emotive stories. But there is no factual basis whatsoever. Just a bunch of feels.

[eball]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It's all myth and legend. Players might think they played better because they felt some sort of slight before the game. But they didn't. It makes for good emotive stories. But there is no factual basis whatsoever. Just a bunch of feels.

 

Like I said, it’s impossible to measure the impact.  But surely you believe and acknowledge that players’ mental states impact their performance?

 

[DrDawkinstein]

Was it last year or the year before that the Dolphins wore those dumb tshirts with the 🤔 emoji, and Josh not only spanked them as usual, but hit that same pose after his TDs.

 

He hears and sees this stuff and uses it no matter how innocent and respectful it seems.

 

He is the #1 trash talker in the league, and he will use whatever they give him to fuel his game.

 

 

[Rew]

41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It's all myth and legend. Players might think they played better because they felt some sort of slight before the game. But they didn't. It makes for good emotive stories. But there is no factual basis whatsoever. Just a bunch of feels.

 

I agree with you in the macro sense.  But you have to have interacted with enough people to realize that motivation, while it doesn't change talent, can certainly impact the observed performance of talent.  

 

Bulletin board material doesn't make a player better, but it definitely can help them show up and play their best.  People have off days, with less energy or a "I'm not feeling it today".  My life experience says that people use different coping techniques to find motivation to attempt to be at their best.  Enough athletes talk about getting motivation from perceived slights for it to be a real factor in their thinking.

 

On this specific topic, I doubt Starks' comments are really going to have any bearing on Josh.  He seems to have his motivation pretty figured out and this won't really impact the chip on his shoulder.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

Like I said, it’s impossible to measure the impact.  But surely you believe and acknowledge that players’ mental states impact their performance?

 

Yes. I don't believe bulliten board material has any real impact on mental state. Players convince themselves it does. Normally as a results based narrative after the event. Nobody ever talks about the bulletin board stuff when they lose. It only matters when they win. It's the reason! It isn't. It's mumbo jumbo.

[Goin Breakdown]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Behave. He isn't calling out the MVP. He is doing exactly the opposite. He is saying that guy's the best so that's the one I wanna get. 

 

You have to be seriously sensitive to have a problem with this.

Exactly

"hey Starks, who do you want to pick off the most?"

"Umm, Daniel Jones"

[PrimeTime101]

I have no problems with any of this... 

over hyped bs.. 

 

OF COURSE HE WANTS TO PICK THE MVP.. 

 

jeeze guys come on lol

[GETTOTHE50]

[Kirby Jackson]

So a rookie DB wants to intercept the league MVP? Am I supposed to have feelings about this?

[Last Guy on the Bench]

On 5/9/2025 at 9:10 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

As is well known on these boards I think bulletin board stuff is total mumbo jumbo placebo effect. It has no impact on performance. 

Isn’t the whole point of “the placebo effect” that placebos do have an impact?

[L Ron Burgundy]

On 5/9/2025 at 9:06 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

Behave. He isn't calling out the MVP. He is doing exactly the opposite. He is saying that guy's the best so that's the one I wanna get. 

 

You have to be seriously sensitive to have a problem with this.

I didn't read it like he had a problem with it.   Who knows though, maybe this guy will be some sort of epic trash talker?  We will see.

[CoudyBills]

On 5/9/2025 at 9:10 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

As is well known on these boards I think bulletin board stuff is total mumbo jumbo placebo effect. It has no impact on performance. 

Ever listen to anything guys like Jordan, Kobe, Tom Brady had to say about comments people make in media?  This take is crazy talk.  

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

Ever listen to anything guys like Jordan, Kobe, Tom Brady had to say about comments people make in media?  This take is crazy talk.  

 

Yea. Players think it matters more than it does.