Elijah Moore Visiting the Bills today (Update: Signed!)

[Logic]

My main takeaway from Elijah Moore being the post-draft vet WR they bring in for a visit is:

Either Amari Cooper really is cooked, or he's asking for too much money.

It seemed like he was a good locker room fit here, had moments where he was productive in big moments, and typically Beane wouldn't like the idea of having spent a 3rd round pick for only a partial season of work. You'd think if they still felt Cooper had anything in the tank and/or if his asking price was reasonable, they'd bring him back. The fact that they're not doing so speaks volumes.

As for Elijah Moore: Sure. Fine. Okay. Piling up replacement level journeymen WRs to put around Shakir and Coleman kinda seems to be their modus operandi these days. I'm sure he'll make a play or two some weeks and completely disappear other weeks, like any other guy in that group. It is what it is.

[muppy]

3 hours ago, bills742 said:

 

 

this young man would be overjoyed to leave the cesspool which is Cleveland and play with #17?

 

what WR wouldn't want to play with Josh Allen and we all hope show up and out for us IF he is signed.

 

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Edited Monday at 04:25 PM by muppy

[Clyde Smith]

29 minutes ago, chris heff said:

If a 25 year old Jerry Rice was brought in for a visit people on this board would complain.

He ran a 4.6, he's too slow.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

My main takeaway from Elijah Moore being the post-draft vet WR they bring in for a visit is:

Either Amari Cooper really is cooked, or he's asking for too much money.

It seemed like he was a good locker room fit here, had moments where he was productive in big moments, and typically Beane wouldn't like the idea of having spent a 3rd round pick for only a partial season of work. You'd think if they still felt Cooper had anything in the tank and/or if his asking price was reasonable, they'd bring him back. The fact that they're not doing so speaks volumes.

As for Elijah Moore: Sure. Fine. Okay. Piling up replacement level journeymen WRs to put around Shakir and Coleman kinda seems to be their modus operandi these days. I'm sure he'll make a play or two some weeks and completely disappear other weeks, like any other guy in that group. It is what it is.

It is nuts to me that cooper isn’t getting more interest. I suspect It’s more of a concern that he can’t be fully available over the whole season.

[billsfan89]

Reminds me of when in 2023 the Bills after the draft didn’t hit edge rusher as a need and signed Leonard Floyd. Bills likely just didn’t like what fell to them at WR so they are now in the market for a veteran makes sense.

 

Moore reminds me of MVS last year, vet burner type but Moore is a bit younger than MVS.

[NewEra]

26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't disagree. Was a tough year to be in that market. The reason I'd have spent an early day 3 pick on one is in the hope you might at least get someone who can come in for a specific package of plays that threatens that and where he has to be accounted for in the hope it dictates to defenses. Cooper gave us that after his signing last year. Teams felt when he was out there that they at least needed to defend the vertical outside routes and it opened other things up. My concern remains the Baltimore week 4 gameplan. Do we have enough to counter it if teams just say "have the outside, you are not hurting us there"? 

I hear ya and I agree that if I were a DC, I’d focus on defending the middle of the field.  
 

I just think that 2025 Josh Palmer is a better outside WR than 2024 Amari Cooper.  I also think Keon will be a viable  option to make plays 1 on 1 on the outside.  Pure speculation on my part, but we’ve seen lesser WRs make plays on the outside with lesser QBs.  
 

the FO has more belief in our players making plays than much of the board and media.  Same situation as last season.  Turned out alright last year.  
 

I think the O will find a way. If this unit fails, I have faith that Beane will make a move in season.  He has a track record for attacking our weaknesses at the deadline.  Hopefully the investments on D will stay healthy and make big plays in the playoffs.  

[SoonerBillsFan]

21 minutes ago, muppy said:

this young man would be overjoyed to leave the cesspool which is Cleveland and play with #17?

 

what WR wouldn't want to play with Josh Allen and we all hope show up and out for us IF he is signed.

 

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I hope we sign him.  We do, and its time to move onto OTA's and preseason. 

[muppy]

1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I hope we sign him.  We do, and its time to move onto OTA's and preseason. 

it may not be a splashy enough guy for fans who are upset no high round WR taken in the draft.

 

The proof will be in the pudding. What I mean by that is if at the end of the season it is determined the lack of WR talent held the team from a Lombardi I will acknowledge it.  But Now it premature. DUH  I mean camp hasn't even happened yet

 

I'm getting salty from the WR rhetoric myself SMH

[GASabresIUFan]

I was hoping he’d be on the radar this offseason.  He is a solid 600 yards a season guy who has never played with a decent QB in his 4 NFL seasons with Cleveland and the NYJ.  
 

He was a high 2nd round pick who ran 4.35 40 at his pro day.   He’d be a reasonable addition if they’ll utilize him as the deep option and unlike the kids in the draft he has 4 years experience.

Edited Monday at 04:56 PM by GASabresIUFan

[pennstate10]

Moore is a lot like KJ Hamler who is already on Bills practice squad. 
 

At PSU, Hamler was both quick and fast. His biggest

problems were getting off LOS, hands, and ball tracking. 
 

Given that he didn’t play for Bills last year, I’d guess that either injuries have hurt his speed, or that his ball skills haven’t improved. 

[gonzo1105]

Just now, pennstate10 said:

Moore is a lot like KJ Hamler who is already on Bills practice squad. 
 

At PSU, Hamler was both quick and fast. His biggest

problems were getting off LOS, hands, and ball tracking. 
 

Given that he didn’t play for Bills last year, I’d guess that either injuries have hurt his speed, or that his ball skills haven’t improved. 

Similar bodies and speed profile but Moore had better production throughout his career which isn’t saying much 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Was just watching some highlights on YouTube. Kid is talented. Great feet, hands, separation. Obviously not a comprehensive overview of his snaps but a know a dog when I see one. Kids fiesty

[dave mcbride]

39 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

It is nuts to me that cooper isn’t getting more interest. I suspect It’s more of a concern that he can’t be fully available over the whole season.

A lot of elite WRs when they reach this part of their careers essentially fall off a cliff, morphing from studs into possession receivers who hang around for a couple/few seasons and bounce from team to team: Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, AJ Green. It starts at around year 30-31, and Cooper will be 31 in June.

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

My boy Ladd McCockney

Yep mine too - I was begging for us to take him first. Even with the overlap with Shakir, you take the BPA. Beane claims to take the BPA but in this case he absolutely did not. You don’t take a funny guy with 4.6 speed over a guy with the “it factor” who runs and plays at a 4.4. Really stupid pick, I Called it then, obviously everyone knows it now. And believe me Shakir and Ladd could have happily coexisted - there’s this thing called putting a wr in montion

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Moore va Coleman in TC would be outstanding for this team

[Turbo44]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

A lot of elite WRs when they reach this part of their careers essentially fall off a cliff, morphing from studs into possession receivers who hang around for a couple/few seasons and bounce from team to team: Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, AJ Green. It starts at around year 30-31, and Cooper will be 31 in June.

Yep and cooper is a weird dude. Extremely smart but I don’t think football means a hell of a lot to him. I think chess means just as much

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

A lot of elite WRs when they reach this part of their careers essentially fall off a cliff, morphing from studs into possession receivers who hang around for a couple/few seasons and bounce from team to team: Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, AJ Green. It starts at around year 30-31, and Cooper will be 31 in June.

Once a receiver signs with the Titans, it’s over. 

Just now, Turbo44 said:

Yep and cooper is a weird dude. Extremely smart but I don’t think football means a hell of a lot to him. I think chess means just as much

That was always the knock on him. He would have a 200 yards game and then won’t get 200 yards total in the next 5 games. 
 

in many ways, he’s the anti Diggs. 

[ndirish1978]

He's a viable signing. We could sign Kennan Allen or Chark at this point for the vet min and half this board would call them over-the-hill jags. 

[Saint Doug]

Why is this guy still a free agent? Did he recently get cut loose? This guy’s stats aren’t that different from Josh Palmer’s, who played with a better QB. 

Edited Monday at 05:24 PM by Saint Doug

[NeverOutNick]

4 hours ago, bills742 said:

 

 

Hopefully this happens. He or cooper are really the only options in free agency to get a deep threat and yes cooper still brings something to this offense even if it was limited last year. 
 

outside of grabbing Moore, maybe we can make a trade for an overloaded WR corps like Jmo on the lions or one of GBs plethora of WRs