Week 13 - 49ers at Bills Game Week Thread

[mikemac2001]

  On 11/30/2024 at 4:02 AM, Buffalo716 said:

The NFL was not going to move the playoff game but hochul would not let it happen 

 

In Western New York it's pretty well known that she stopped it ... The NFL was fine playing in front of zero fans

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Were talking about different things so we can move on.

 

im just stating people blame the weather and the dome when it’s really gov making the decision to delay it (then the nfl gets involved)!

[Buffalo716]

  On 11/30/2024 at 4:03 AM, mikemac2001 said:

Were talking about different things so we can move on.

 

im just stating people blame the weather and the dome when it’s really gov making the decision to delay it (then the nfl gets involved)!

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Ofc there is a safety issue with traveling and that's why it does happen 

 

I personally didn't lose sleep over having a game postponed 1 day 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

  On 11/29/2024 at 9:46 PM, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

Said it earlier this week that purdy is playing and to take the 6.5 points but everyone laughed at me. The Niners said as much but noone on here wanted to listen. 

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Purdy is playing but no Williams, banks, bosa, Lenoir, greenlaw, aiyuk, I think Fred Warner is playing hurt.  Even if purdy was 100% healthy I’d jump on Buffalo -6.5

 

purdy is a completely different player without Trent Williams then all those other guys on top of it?  Williams legit could be mvp if the general public understood how important offensive line is 🤣. 

Edited November 30, 2024 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Scott7975]

 

[CaseyatBat]

  On 11/30/2024 at 4:02 AM, Buffalo716 said:

The NFL was not going to move the playoff game but hochul would not let it happen 

 

In Western New York it's pretty well known that she was the driving force 

 

The NFL would have played in front of no fans but she declared the state of emergency and wouldn't let it happen

 

I do understand public safety but it was hochul who didn't want it ... The NFL wasn't the driving force 

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incorrect statements

 

the bills lobbied the NFL as well as Hochuls office 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2024 by CaseyatBat

[Big Turk]

  On 11/30/2024 at 4:00 AM, TheWeatherMan said:

No..no it’s not.  If wind directions tend to not vary significantly with a LE event.  If they did, this would throw off one of the main catalysts as to what causes the higher snowfall accumulations.  It’s not just cold winds over warm water, it’s the duration.  The longer the fetch the more significant the event. Granted there’s rules of thumb and forecasting techniques for all events, I think you’re over simplifying LE events.  It’s mostly seasonal, and depends greatly on the path and cold air advection associated with the high.  This time of year, LE is more prominent because the super shallow Lake Erie isn’t yet frozen over, so Buffalo can get hits with a westerly flow (like we’re seeing now) or a NW flow off of Ontario.  With this event models are projecting a lengthy westerly flow off the lakes (don’t see much variability) which is why both western NY and the Watertown area are both being hit.  

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I don't agree with this. I live in a snow belt and most times the bands start South of us, shift north due small shifts in wind degree direction, sometimes will then even go further north of us for several hours, then return back over us and then shift down south again into the Southern Tier before ending. This is very common over these longer multi day events. I mean it's literally going to happen during this one.

 

You can even see the bands start to shift simply by looking at radar without having to know anything about the wind direction, it's pretty much telling you.

 

Sometimes you have disturbances that move thru like shortwave troughs that slightly change wind direction and move the bands completely away from an area to a new area...even small changes in wind direction, say from 270 degrees to 260 degrees has a large impact in where the band placement will shift.

 

For example, in Snowvember in 2014, we had two separate blasts of snow on consecutive days...the first was about 3.5 feet and then moved south overnight before returning the next day to drop another 3 feet. We were supposed to get more snow after it moved south again but it never returned north of Elma that time and we were spared thank God.

 

Same thing happened 2 years ago...started South, band shifted north and we got hammered, then it shifted all the way up to the North towns and even up to Lockport for quite a long time and they got about a foot and a half of snow very unusually, then it shifted back down again over us and back to the southtowns and ski country and then died out.

Edited November 30, 2024 by Big Turk

[Comebackkid]

  On 11/30/2024 at 4:26 AM, Scott7975 said:

 

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Did he not keep saying... the Bills on Monday night?

[TheWeatherMan]

  On 11/30/2024 at 5:37 AM, Big Turk said:

 

I don't agree with this. I live in a snow belt and most times the bands start South of us, shift north due small shifts in wind degree direction, sometimes will then even go further north of us for several hours, then return back over us and then shift down south again into the Southern Tier before ending. This is very common over these longer multi day events. I mean it's literally going to happen during this one.

 

You can even see the bands start to shift simply by looking at radar without having to know anything about the wind direction, it's pretty much telling you.

 

Sometimes you have disturbances that move thru like shortwave troughs that slightly change wind direction and move the bands completely away from an area to a new area...even small changes in wind direction, say from 270 degrees to 260 degrees has a large impact in where the band placement will shift.

 

For example, in Snowvember in 2014, we had two separate blasts of snow on consecutive days...the first was about 3.5 feet and then moved south overnight before returning the next day to drop another 3 feet. We were supposed to get more snow after it moved south again but it never returned north of Elma that time and we were spared thank God.

 

Same thing happened 2 years ago...started South, band shifted north and we got hammered, then it shifted all the way up to the North towns and even up to Lockport for quite a long time and they got about a foot and a half of snow very unusually, then it shifted back down again over us and back to the southtowns and ski country and then died out.

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Lows and highs follow the long wave pattern, short wave troughs are not going to significantly impact a LE snow event.  It might impact a lake enhanced snow event but not lake effect.  Using two case studies to determine a climatological norm sounds like something a politician would do not a scientist.  There are only 3 things that really contribute to a LE snow event, the delta between air and water temp, the length / size of the fetch, and the positioning, relative speed / longevity of the high transiting the area.  Did you ever use BUFKIT while you were studying meteorology?  

[GunnerBill]

  On 11/30/2024 at 3:19 AM, Buffalo716 said:

Well to be fair there aren't a lot of games were heavy snow falls during a game .. games I remember 

 

Packers defeated the Tennessee Titans by a score of 40-14  at Lambeau Field in 2020

 

2013, the Philadelphia Eagles defeated the Detroit Lions 34-20

 

Then bills 13-7 in the snow storm 

 

 

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That Eagles game Shady went OFF if I remember correctly?

[Since1981]

Over Under 44

feels like a good Under bet, unless they move it. This bet isn’t about the teams, rather it’s a weather bet and the bookies, nation not yet aware betting wise. 

[JGMcD2]

  On 11/30/2024 at 5:06 AM, CaseyatBat said:

 

incorrect statements

 

the bills lobbied the NFL as well as Hochuls office 

 

 

 

 

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Imagine believing that it was an elaborate ruse by the Bills to lobby to the point where the Governor of New York declared a state of emergency in 15 counties 2 days before the playoff game was scheduled. They even went as far as having her declare a multi-county travel ban per their request! 

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[Whites Bay]

  On 11/30/2024 at 1:15 AM, zow2 said:

49ers are enroute to Buffalo on United Airlines flt# 3818.  It’s a Boeing 777 scheduled to land at 11:45pm.  
Not sure if they were planning to arrive late Friday night or if they left a day early to beat the worsening weather. 

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Didn't realize they could get a 777 into BUF.

[WotAGuy]

  On 11/30/2024 at 1:34 PM, Whites Bay said:

Didn't realize they could get a 777 into BUF.

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Oooooh no you don’t!  We haven’t finished the lake effect argument yet and we are NOT starting an aircraft landing requirements argument.

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2024 by WotAGuy

[Gman10]

  On 11/30/2024 at 3:15 AM, Einstein said:

 

Yet you never see a 41-38 score in a snow game…

Theyre always 13-7 or something similar 😂

 

Only high scoring snow game I can think of is that Eagles game in the early 2000’s.

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Browns-Steelers two weeks ago 24-19. Browns suck and Steelers can't score a TD. Putting up 43 between the two of them is impressive IMO. 😂

[BillsFan130]

  On 11/30/2024 at 4:26 AM, Scott7975 said:

 

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Gruden is so good. Miss that man in the Monday night football booth 

[GottaRun]

Live stadium cam for those that want to see the current conditions at the stadium (no snow at 9am)
 

 

[Gman10]

  On 11/30/2024 at 1:50 AM, mannc said:

They’re still laughing.  The line has now moved all the way to -6.🤣

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-6 for Bills? I got them at -3.5!

Edited November 30, 2024 by Gman10

[mannc]

  On 11/30/2024 at 2:25 PM, Gman10 said:

-6 for Bills? I got them at -3.5!

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That must have been a few weeks ago, because right now they are -6 on DraftKings

[WotAGuy]

  On 11/30/2024 at 2:29 PM, mannc said:

That must have been a few weeks ago, because right now they are -6 on DraftKings

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I can get Bills +9 but it will cost me a couple grand to make $100