Boatdrinks Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: Maybe.. but for all the success the Chiefs have had, it's not due to WR evaluations. They've literally won in spite of that. Their defense has gotten it done when needed . The Bills hasn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, ColoradoBills said: I'd bet my bottom dollar that if Beane moved up to draft Worthy certain people would be calling for his head. Stuff like "he gave up a 3rd rounder for a 4th comp pick". We now have only one other pick in the top 130. "KC fleeced him". This board is so predictable. I would have loved it. It would have been risky, but bold and aggressive. We will see you back when Worthy sends us home in January for you to tell us “no one could predict he’d be good.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I would have loved it. It would have been risky, but bold and aggressive. We will see you back when Worthy sends us home in January for you to tell us “no one could predict he’d be good.” I'll wait for the draft to finish before I give my opinion on Beane's moves. I also never gave any opinion on Worthy. He could "bust" or be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I'd bet my bottom dollar that if Beane moved up to draft Worthy certain people would be calling for his head. Stuff like "he gave up a 3rd rounder for a 4th comp pick". We now have only one other pick in the top 130. "KC fleeced him". This board is so predictable. Looking at who 49ers picked doesn't feel like KC needed to trade to get him, or are Worthy and Persall more similar than they seem to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Looking at who 49ers picked doesn't feel like KC needed to trade to get him, or are Worthy and Persall more similar than they seem to me? Never know. Pearsall may have been the "panic pick" people like to say happens. I'm wondering if they were targeting Worthy and that's why KC felt they had to jump up to get him. Edited April 26 by BuffaloBillyG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 So, if we got DeJean - does he move to safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Success said: So, if we got DeJean - does he move to safety? Well, he can’t play corner in the NFL, so…thankfully he’s not going to be the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, mannc said: Well, he can’t play corner in the NFL, so…thankfully he’s not going to be the pick. You sure about that I could see this staff picking him easily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 It's like pro wrestling. The Chiefs and Bills are really friends behind the scenes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 34 minutes ago, FireChans said: I would have loved it. It would have been risky, but bold and aggressive. We will see you back when Worthy sends us home in January for you to tell us “no one could predict he’d be good.” Hmmm… you said “ risky , but “ . Why do I get the feeling if Worthy was the Bills pick and failed , you would be calling him “ Roscoe Parrish 2.0 , another Harty “ etc etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 35 minutes ago, Koufax said: if you are worried about spiting the Chiefs more than improving your team then you are probably still in Norwood PTSD and should not be running a football team. If they wanted Worthy or believed he was the best player at 28 they would have taken him. They did not. He is a player with one big skill and a lot of question marks. I hope he doesn’t work out but if we picked someone else at 28 and the Chiefs got him at 32 or traded up to 29 it wouldn’t be any different. If you think he will be Tyreek Hill and not Marquise Goodwin or Ted Ginn you don’t just take him at 28, you move up to make sure. Tyreek is so much more than a forty time. Both trades helped this team get better. There aren’t perfect receivers out of the top ten so you have to trust your evaluations and projections. We will see if the evaluations were right or if we missed the mark (happens dozens of times each draft) but I think the rationale and draft day specifics are spot on for these two trades, just like the move up for Kincaid was. Remember the Lions drafting top five receiver busts over and over. Then picking Megatron anyway? If you let past draft trauma impact future choices instead of solid evaluations and strategy, you have already failed. It’s not about worrying about the Chiefs. It’s about not helping them. Of all the teams in the league that is the last team I would want to help. The only way you could possibly justify this is if you think getting a late round pick significantly improves the team. Just getting an extra pick doesn’t do that. This is the same logic we saw for years with teams helping the pats with those stupid trades that allowed them to sustain a perennial Super Bowl winner. I think this comes down to… you and others think the Bills FO are smarter than the one that has made the conference championship game every year, and won multiple Super Bowls. I’m of the opinion you don’t let that team do what they want in the draft because records currently show… they’re making better decisions than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggFartExplosion Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: It's like pro wrestling. The Chiefs and Bills are really friends behind the scenes. Mahomes is HBK and Allen is Bret Hart and they are going to have a brawl backstage at the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Dan said: It’s not about worrying about the Chiefs. It’s about not helping them. Of all the teams in the league that is the last team I would want to help. The only way you could possibly justify this is if you think getting a late round pick significantly improves the team. Just getting an extra pick doesn’t do that. This is the same logic we saw for years with teams helping the pats with those stupid trades that allowed them to sustain a perennial Super Bowl winner. I think this comes down to… you and others think the Bills FO are smarter than the one that has made the conference championship game every year, and won multiple Super Bowls. I’m of the opinion you don’t let that team do what they want in the draft because records currently show… they’re making better decisions than you. How did we help the Chiefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, EggFartExplosion said: Mahomes is HBK and Allen is Bret Hart and they are going to have a brawl backstage at the draft. Rodger Goodell is Vince McMahon, and he will ref the "brawl". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 If we somehow come out of round 2 with Dejean and Franklin then I'd consider that a big win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Hmmm… you said “ risky , but “ . Why do I get the feeling if Worthy was the Bills pick and failed , you would be calling him “ Roscoe Parrish 2.0 , another Harty “ etc etc ? I’m not sure. Maybe you have me confused with someone else. Worthy has elite speed. A little skinny and slight. I had doubts about Devonta Smith who has been pretty productive at the NFL level. even if he sucked, I would respect the decision. Now, I have to hope he sucks so he doesn’t catch bombs in the divisional round over Cooper Dejeans head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I’m not sure. Maybe you have me confused with someone else. Worthy has elite speed. A little skinny and slight. I had doubts about Devonta Smith who has been pretty productive at the NFL level. even if he sucked, I would respect the decision. Now, I have to hope he sucks so he doesn’t catch bombs in the divisional round over Cooper Dejeans head k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 29 minutes ago, mannc said: Well, he can’t play corner in the NFL, so…thankfully he’s not going to be the pick. Wait…why can’t he play corner in the nfl? Great athleticism and production in college. First team All-American, Big 10 Defensive Back of the Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CirclnWagons Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Hoping Beane picks up some good experience picking early in the second round because with his combination of off season moves, we’ll most likely be picking early in the first round next year. I knew we couldn’t defend the chiefs in the playoffs but now we can’t defend them in the draft??? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Beane likes his 2nd rd DE's (Epenesa, Boogie) this could be Marshawn Kneeland territory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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