Tipster19 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Here are the 5 worse secondaries from last year ranked. #28 Colts #29 Giants #30 Cardinals #31 Raiders #32 Bears if so it would soften the compensation it would take to move up with any of these teams. How Elam’s value is perceived is something I’d be curious to know. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Move up what 2 spots? 1 1 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I had high hopes for Kaiir, but he has not shown a darn thing in this league. He may still be developed, but I doubt he’s shown enough to get much of anything in terms of a move up in the first round. 3 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwriter Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I had high hopes for Kaiir, but he has not shown a darn thing in this league. He may still be developed, but I doubt he’s shown enough to get much of anything in terms of a move up in the first round. Me too. I wonder if we could get a 3rd for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 14 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Move up what 2 spots? 2 spots in the fourth 4 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Me too. I wonder if we could get a 3rd for him. I would be thinking 5th tops 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) He has little to no value at this point, better to keep him and see if he turns the corner for us. Edited April 11 by uticaclub 9 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I think the jurys still out personally. 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, uticaclub said: He has little to no value at this point, better to keep him and see if he turns the corner for us. I agree with this. Another team would have to be willing to take on his guaranteed contract. $4.5M total for 2024 & 2025. That makes it tough because they’d be stuck with that if he didn’t work out. That really tanks his value. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 23 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Move up what 2 spots? Elam and 28 for 33 1 1 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 4 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: I think the jurys still out personally. What makes you think that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 23 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Me too. I wonder if we could get a 3rd for him. Greatly doubt it. He still might develop and become a really good player, but he has an awful lot to prove. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) Spencer has actual value IMO. We did it with Cordy Glenn. Perhaps Spencer gets us from 28 to 13-16ish if we add a 2025 4th Or he could be used in a package to NYG Edited April 11 by Warriorspikes51 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: Here are the 5 worse secondaries from last year ranked. #28 Colts #29 Giants #30 Cardinals #31 Raiders #32 Bears if so it would soften the compensation it would take to move up with any of these teams. How Elam’s value is perceived is something I’d be curious to know. I think this is one of these things where, "if you don't think enough of your 2022 1st round pick to play him in in more than half the games, and you're already giving up and willing to trade him, we don't think enough of him that we're willing to give you very much" 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Spencer has actual value IMO. We did it with Cordy Glenn. Perhaps Spencer gets us from 28 to 13-16ish if we add a 2025 4th Or he could be used in a package to NYG Fact: Cordy Glenn, who was an established starting LT before previous season injury and IR, moved us up 9 spots from 21 to 12, WITH a same year 5th round pick thrown in (and a 6th back as change). Fact: Brown is not a LT, and a 2025 4th is considered devalued to approximate a 2025 5th. I don't think you're gonna see Brown get you 12 spots. Edited April 11 by Beck Water 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 33 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Elam and 28 for 33 Huh? 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Spencer has actual value IMO. We did it with Cordy Glenn. Perhaps Spencer gets us from 28 to 13-16ish if we add a 2025 4th Or he could be used in a package to NYG I never thought of Brown being traded. He’s young with a cheap contract and upside. If we need to trade up he could be a legitimate pawn. Good insight Warrior 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: What makes you think that? I'm not Firebaugh Kid, but I thought he showed flashes when he played towards the end of 2022 season when Benford was injured. So I don't think the "Fat Lady" has sung yet, but I don't think other GMs are gonna give much either. 4 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: Huh? He's saying Elam would have negative value in a trade. It would de-value our pick to the 2nd round to package Elam with it. Wise guys. Edited April 11 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I'm not Firebaugh Kid, but I thought he showed flashes when he played towards the end of 2022 season when Benford was injured. So I don't think the "Fat Lady" has sung yet, but I don't think other GMs are gonna give much either. He's saying Elam would have negative value in a trade. It would de-value our pick to the 2nd round to package Elam with it. Wise guys. Ok haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 The much discussed Spencer Brown option makes more sense to me. He's got experience and upside, but enough shaky play where I am hesitant to pay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 The guy does well in straight man coverage but he screws up in zone and when he has to make adjustments. Maybe he'll eventually learn but at this point he'd only have value to a team that plays straight man as a base D. This is the NFL so I doubt there are any teams that do that. He wasn't a first round pick. What mystifies me is why his shortcomings weren't apparent from film or scouting. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Move up what 2 spots? Kaiir could definitely get us back up to the top of the 6th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 54 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Elam and 28 for 33 21 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: Huh? 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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