Alphadawg7 Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 (edited) 35 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I think you're last "calling it now" was Bills make AFCCG. Do you just pick things and say that so you can say "I told you so!" if it happens? Yes, that was one I posted, but we were .500 and coming off a loss to the Eagles when I made it and laid what I thought would happen rest of season and why I was optimistic still at a time where a lot people were not. And if you think that is why I post these threads, and it's only been a few, then you don't know me well as a poster. 35 minutes ago, warrior9 said: He was literally our best WR down the stretch. We now have Samuel, Hamler, and Coleman on the outside. We have Kincaid at Flex/ TE... is this some.... insane take that only you have or something? I believe most of us think this.... If you think most think this, then I suggest you read the thread and all the draft day threads this year with all the people melting down that we didn't take a 2nd WR to play ahead of Shakir. I also spent all of last season arguing with people that we needed less Davis and more Shakir too, including starting threads on it long before he broke out. I spent most of last pre-season arguing with people who swore he had bad hands and cant catch because of the one pass that was overturned in the playoff game as a rookie against Miami. If it was most of us, I wouldn't have started the thread. And of course, there are people high on him too, never said I was the only one. I will say though, I have been all about Shakir since draft night when we stole him in the 5th round. Edited May 2 by Alphadawg7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Calling it now Kincaid is arriving too 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 20 minutes ago, PonyBoy said: Nope...you're still one of the best posters on this board.... 😍. 😀 Hahaha thanks. Well I hope he changes your mind this season on the field Just now, HOUSE said: Calling it now Kincaid is arriving too I think Coleman is going to hit the ground running and it would not surprise me at all if we see all 3 of Coleman, Shakir, and Kincaid flirt with or pass 1000 yards each this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 this is such a hot take. 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: No more confident than I felt about Gabe Davis last year after Beane elected not to sign Hopkins. Well that's not entirely true, I am more confident in Shakir than I was in Davis. But just because Beane chooses to elevate a player's role on the depth chart doesn't mean I inherently trust that he's correct. Beane also elevated McKenzie to replace Beasley. Is McK even in the league anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: No more confident than I felt about Gabe Davis last year after Beane elected not to sign Hopkins. Well that's not entirely true, I am more confident in Shakir than I was in Davis. But just because Beane chooses to elevate a player's role on the depth chart doesn't mean I inherently trust that he's correct. Yeah, last offseason when people were talking up the acquisitions of Sherfield and Harty like Beane had found a couple gems..........they didn't like it when I pointed out that they hadn't produced for sh!t in their relatively long NFL careers and were unlikely to even produce as much as departing bums Crowder/McKenzie(and indeed, those two stiffs did put up a few more combined receiving yards than Sherf+Sharty). Fans just assumed Sherf/Sharty would be better with the Bills. Truer to form.......they were not. There is a little of that going on here again. Curtis Samuel has the most yards receiving in one NFL season of any receiver on the roster with 851 four seasons ago in 2020. If that remains the case it's the first time since 1987 that they will have taken a receiving corps into a season without at least one receiver who had produced at least one 900 yard season in their career. Prior to that 1987 season you gotta' go back at least into the 1970's or 1960's. I mean this is a REALLY unproven WR corps. It is a big ask to basically expect everybody to play better than the year before......and in the process have the best year of their career to date. Edited May 2 by BADOLBILZ 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: When? I've been home all day and he hasn't shown up yet Did you look in the yard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Nah, you gotta declare that he'll be for us what Cee Dee Lamb is for the Cowboys to drive home the impact and reliability you think he'll have. Shakir to me has what it takes to duplicate what Diggs meant to the team and what he produced. I gotta at least one laughing emoji for stating it a few months back. 😠 Nah, you gotta declare that he'll be for us what Cee Dee Lamb is for the Cowboys to drive home the impact and reliability you think he'll have. Shakir to me has what it takes to duplicate what Diggs meant to the team and what he produced. I gotta at least one laughing emoji for stating it a few months back. 😠 Nah, you gotta declare that he'll be for us what Cee Dee Lamb is for the Cowboys to drive home the impact and reliability you think he'll have. Shakir to me has what it takes to duplicate what Diggs meant to the team and what he produced. I gotta at least one laughing emoji for stating it a few months back. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 44 minutes ago, FireChans said: Beane also elevated McKenzie to replace Beasley. Is McK even in the league anymore? Signed with the Giants in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 47 minutes ago, FireChans said: Beane also elevated McKenzie to replace Beasley. Is McK even in the league anymore? What does that have to do with anything? Bill Walsh paid a bounty and traded up for JJ Stokes and called him the next Jerry Rice. Guess that means every decision Bill Walsh made also didn't work out right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFan Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 by the way here are Diggs' rookie stats with the Vikings 52 catches on 84 targets (62%) for 720 yards (13.8 yards per catch) and 4 TDs. Shakir was an afterthought as a rookie, but here are his stats from last year 39 catches on 45 targets (86.7%) for 611 yards (15.7 yards per catch) and 2 TDs. In his young career Shakir's stats are 49 catches on 65 targets (75.4%) for 772 yards (15.8 yards per catch) and 3 TDs. Kind of looks alot like Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I think so, and really hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Getting another good WR is not an indictment on Shakir. It is a need for the overall talent level of the WR room and dramatically adds to the offensive potential of the Bills. Getting a good WR would give the Bills 4 playable WRs, Shakir/Samuel/Coleman/and new addition, with hopefully 2 that can play the boundary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: What does that have to do with anything? Bill Walsh paid a bounty and traded up for JJ Stokes and called him the next Jerry Rice. Guess that means every decision Bill Walsh made also didn't work out right? 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: No more confident than I felt about Gabe Davis last year after Beane elected not to sign Hopkins. Well that's not entirely true, I am more confident in Shakir than I was in Davis. But just because Beane chooses to elevate a player's role on the depth chart doesn't mean I inherently trust that he's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 He did have 39 receptions for 611 yards last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Looking back at this thread I started April 4th...anyone feel differently now that Beane has shown he and the team have a lot of confidence in Shakir given we didn't make a major splash move up in draft and only drafted 1 WR overall? What about seeing him working out with Moulds again this off-season? I can't wait to sse this offense on the field personally... Im big on Shakir. I was one of the first last season to speak up about him. Made a thread called something like "Shakir is our most explosive player on offense." That said, Beane had a lot of confidence last season in Davis and didnt really do much at the WR position then either. I take that with a grain of salt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Nah, you gotta declare that he'll be for us what Cee Dee Lamb is for the Cowboys to drive home the impact and reliability you think he'll have. Shakir to me has what it takes to duplicate what Diggs meant to the team and what he produced. I gotta at least one laughing emoji for stating it a few months back. 😠 Nah, you gotta declare that he'll be for us what Cee Dee Lamb is for the Cowboys to drive home the impact and reliability you think he'll have. Shakir to me has what it takes to duplicate what Diggs meant to the team and what he produced. I gotta at least one laughing emoji for stating it a few months back. 😠 Nah, you gotta declare that he'll be for us what Cee Dee Lamb is for the Cowboys to drive home the impact and reliability you think he'll have. Shakir to me has what it takes to duplicate what Diggs meant to the team and what he produced. I gotta at least one laughing emoji for stating it a few months back. 😠 No need to repeat yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I felt good about him, until he said well done steak… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 10 hours ago, PonyBoy said: I think the biggest thing we'll see this year is Josh not forcing the ball to satisfy Diggs. If you're open, you'll get the ball. My observation was on the rare occassion Allen actually forced a ball to Diggs, it was because Josh so no one open, and played as if he thought Diggs was his best option. I would be curious to see videos or photos of plays where Allen obviously passed up an open reciever to throw to a covered Diggs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, Chaos said: My observation was on the rare occassion Allen actually forced a ball to Diggs, it was because Josh so no one open, and played as if he thought Diggs was his best option. I would be curious to see videos or photos of plays where Allen obviously passed up an open reciever to throw to a covered Diggs. While the tape definitely showed Diggs struggled to get open deep down the stretch in the short and intermediate areas he was still our most open receiver and by a fair amount. I didn't see a ton of evidence of Josh forcing it him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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