BananaB Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beast said: I don’t know, call me an idiot but I’ll take McDermott’s evaluation of those positions and give it a little more credibility than yours. And to think, the off-season has a long ways to go and we also have a thing called the draft ahead of us. Ahhh yes, the I trust McD when it comes to DBs argument. Whaley’s scouts were a part of drafting Tre and signing Hyde and Poyer. Taron is a good player but everything else has not been good. Benford is super overrated because of draft position and beating Elam for the starting spot. Jackson always killed us on third down. Wallace was shaky but a good find considering he was a FA. Elam looks like a bust. We had safeties play behind Hyde and Poyer for a couple years and when they got their shot due to injury they were terrible. McD the DB guru is a total myth really. Edited March 21 by BananaB 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Rapp and Edwards starting? Good solid safeties? No, they're not. I sincerely hope that is not the plan. PFF rankings for last season, Edwards 82nd of 95 qualified safeties Rapp. 85th of 95 What a dynamic duo Regardless of your opinion of PFF ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Rapp and Edwards starting? Good solid safeties? No, they're not. I sincerely hope that is not the plan. PFF rankings for last season, Edwards 82nd of 95 qualified safeties Rapp. 85th of 95 What a dynamic duo Regardless of your opinion of PFF ... pfff sounds like a wet fart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Rapp and Edwards starting? Good solid safeties? No, they're not. I sincerely hope that is not the plan. PFF rankings for last season, Edwards 82nd of 95 qualified safeties Rapp. 85th of 95 What a dynamic duo Regardless of your opinion of PFF ... Going through Chiefs twitter and seeing how many are upset to see him leave and come here is all I need. He’s a baller. Takeaway % is high. 4 TDs. Shows up big in the playoffs. 2 rings. Great signing. Go ahead…make my day…. BOOKMARK THIS BABY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said: pfff sounds like a wet fart Original.... I'm not their no. 1 fan but if you're rated as two of the very worst safeties...chances are you're not very good Also, all 32 NFL teams and a couple hundred colleges pay for their professional services, so I'd say they have some credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 24 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Going through Chiefs twitter and seeing how many are upset to see him leave and come here is all I need. He’s a baller. Takeaway % is high. 4 TDs. Shows up big in the playoffs. 2 rings. Great signing. Go ahead…make my day…. BOOKMARK THIS BABY. Chiefs signed him for one year last season and they didn't offer him another contract. I wonder why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Reminds me of what people said when Poyer signed here … Interesting…The Chiefs paid him $3m last year … did they overpay him? I don’t think they were complaining when the SB came around… $3 million on one year deal. Didn't offer him another contract. Ya, the Chiefs couldn't have done it without him and his 82nd out of 95 safeties ranking. I'm sure the Chiefs SB odds have taken a hit with his loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Chiefs signed him for one year last season and they didn't offer him another contract. I wonder why? To upset their fans on Twitter obviously. Duh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 minutes ago, 90sBills said: To upset their fans on Twitter obviously. Duh. Obviously some fans liked him more than the management. The Chiefs management has a really good track record the last 6 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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90sBills Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 12 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Obviously some fans liked him more than the management. The Chiefs management has a really good track record the last 6 years Kidding aside I thought he played great for KC down the stretch. He was signed on as depth but had to fill in due to injuries. Can’t ask for more than that with his price tag. Hopefully he’ll play similarly for the Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 40 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Chiefs signed him for one year last season and they didn't offer him another contract. I wonder why? The last couple teams he’s played on had safety injuries. He’s been a 3rd safety mostly. Chiefs have their starting safeties in Reid and Cook. The Bills offer a better opportunity to start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The last couple teams he’s played on had safety injuries. He’s been a 3rd safety mostly. Chiefs have their starting safeties in Reid and Cook. The Bills offer a better opportunity to start. Like I said earlier, I sincerely hope he and Rapp aren't the starters. I think they are both backups If they wind up being the starters........then I'll sincerely hope I'm wrong.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: Thinking back, I felt the same way when Hyde and Poyer showed up. Neither had really given an indication of how good they would become. McD needs to work his magic. I do hope the Bills draft someone that can play sooner rather than later. Having to play Lewis and Hamlin would be a nightmare scenario. I didn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 These safety signings aren’t upgrades over Poyer/Hyde IMO. I see them drafting a safety early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I disagree that Benford is overrated. he seems to play a good game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I'm stunned how much cap space Beane has been able to create without redoing Diggs. Great signings so far and still the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: These safety signings aren’t upgrades over Poyer/Hyde IMO. I see them drafting a safety early Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’m not too worried about the S spot. Poyer and Hyde have been good, but they got old and those two were ALWAYS exposed when the games REALLY mattered. McDermott can turn chicken crap into chicken salad when it comes to the secondary. That’s McDermott’s strength as a coach. I’m not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 hours ago, Turk71 said: Chiefs signed him for one year last season and they didn't offer him another contract. I wonder why? they have 2 other safeties that are also starters 3 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said: These safety signings aren’t upgrades over Poyer/Hyde IMO. I see them drafting a safety early I love both those guys, but they did not have a great year last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Maybe we have a safety that can defend Kelsey? God, that would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Maybe we have a safety that can defend Kelsey? God, that would be nice. who??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: who??? With the misspelling of Jabroni (another thread, and JK likes to use the word) I thought I would join in 😁 And yes I know it's "ce" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 This leaves open possibility of adding a veteran starter still IMO 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This leaves open possibility of adding a veteran starter still IMO Leaves the door wide open to draft one high as well. That price should also fall under the comp pick level as well and not take anything away. Good value signing IMO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I'm not sure i really like this signing........ya dig? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Edwards, it appears is taking #21. That’s cold. 19 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Leaves the door wide open to draft one high as well. That price should also fall under the comp pick level as well and not take anything away. Good value signing IMO I think this is more likely the case. Edwards will be this year’s Taylor Rapp signing. I think they draft a FS. It would be awesome to land Blackmon still, though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Edwards, it appears is taking #21. That’s cold. he said he's friends with Poyer and wants to wear 21 because of that supposedly 3 minutes ago, Sweats said: I'm not sure i really like this signing........ya dig? Care to explain why? What exactly is negative about a 1 year 2.8 mil contract for a 27 year old with 2 Championships on 2 different teams. With 13 takeways in 28 starts, 3 playoff INTs and 4 Defensive TDs. Who can play SS, FS, Nickel 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) We are also assuming he’s the FS starter, nothing is saying he could be the starter at SS. Rapp isn’t making a ton himself. Edited March 21 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 AAV: Rapp - 3.5 Edwards - 2.8 Lewis - 1.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: AAV: Rapp - 3.5 Edwards - 2.8 Lewis - 1.5 How much do you think Simmons or Blackmon would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I wish they went 2 years with Edwards. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: How much do you think Simmons or Blackmon would be? High 4s for Blackmon, mid 5s for Simmons? Hard to say, it’s a weird market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: High 4s for Blackmon, mid 5s for Simmons? Hard to say, it’s a weird market. I'd gladly take either for that $! I was thinking more like 7 for Blackmon or 8-9 for Simmons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I'd gladly take either for that $! I was thinking more like 7 for Blackmon or 8-9 for Simmons I am also early 2000’s Madden Franchise Mode bad at predicting contracts lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: he said he's friends with Poyer and wants to wear 21 because of that supposedly Care to explain why? What exactly is negative about a 1 year 2.8 mil contract for a 27 year old with 2 Championships on 2 different teams. With 13 takeways in 28 starts, 3 playoff INTs and 4 Defensive TDs. Who can play SS, FS, Nickel I'm not saying he's not a great addition....it's just that i prefer Blackman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I wish they went 2 years with Edwards. Beane was too cheap …Edwards obviously going to bet on himself to get paid more next year .. They have now signed both Rapp and Edwards to less money than what they paid Hyde last year … They could easily still make another add if they wanted from Free Agency and probably still be some margin under what they paid Poyer and Hyde last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Beane was too cheap …Edwards obviously going to bet on himself to get paid more next year .. They have now signed both Rapp and Edwards to less money than what they paid Hyde last year … They could easily still make another add if they wanted from Free Agency and probably still be some margin under what they paid Poyer and Hyde last year I would still try hard for one more veteran that way they would only have to draft a safety if he was the clear BPA. I think this draft has multiple guys who would benefit from only playing specials for a year then taking over for Rapp/Edwards in 2025. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) Most important thing about this signing is that we are now spending roughly $38M on the entire secondary (post-6/1 when Tre's cap hit is reduced), and that will likely be closer to $34M or so when Taron Johnson's extension is officially reported. This represents a welcome and major redistribution of resources from our secondary to more important positions on the roster. Edited March 21 by HappyDays 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Most important thing about this signing is that we are now spending roughly $38M on the entire secondary (post-6/1 when Tre's cap hit reduced), and that will likely be closer to $34M or so when Taron Johnson's extension is officially reported. This represents a welcome and major redistribution of resources from our secondary to more important positions on the roster. Bingo. Can’t get younger and cheaper without getting younger and cheaper. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This leaves open possibility of adding a veteran starter still IMO I get cap inflation, but seems like a lot for a guy who wasn't even a starter on the Chiefs and they didn't want back. I get that he started at the end of the season, but that was due to injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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