MrEpsYtown Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I can’t see them doing it. They don’t draft IOL and RTs in the first round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I can’t see them doing it. They don’t draft IOL and RTs in the first round 28 is basically round 2 - but you get the 5th year option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Is the Law Office of Jackson Powers-Johnson a surefire rookie starter and eventual Pro Bowler? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: lol horrible waste of a 1st rounder At 10m you could get a fringe top 5 center, or settle for a not even top 5 WR2 1 minute ago, Doc said: Is the Law Office of Jackson Powers-Johnson a surefire rookie starter and eventual Pro Bowler? Even so, it’d be less than 10m in cap savings compared to a mediocre wr being the same (and a top guy being 25m) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 21 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Live look at the "Center in round 1" train... Driven by the A-Team? Looks like their m.o. * Or Ozzy. Going up the rails on that crazy train. Edited March 18 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Live look at the "Center in round 1" train... Looks like a mauler ! I'm in I don't like moving McGovern to center. seems like compromise. Thought Bates would get that call. still odd to me But I am certainly not Aaron Kromer or McBeanes on the other hand I don't find Center as a weakness as of now Now WR ? yea need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 21 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: 28 is basically round 2 - but you get the 5th year option. I get it, I just don’t think they value the position there at that point in the draft. It just doesn’t seem to Beane’s MO. Dating back to his time in Carolina, they have literally never drafted a IOL in the first round. Just doesn’t seem likely to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Welcome aboard Nate - using logic - I love it. But Frazier is my guy. Regardless. I’ve started a Football version of Moneyball…. All aboard!!!! If the opinions of folks like Rick Spielman and Daniel Jeremiah matter, Powers-Johnson does not make it past Dallas at 25. Mostly because he's a possibility for Pittsburgh, Miami, and Philly before Dallas. Pittsburgh specifically is desperate for a C... Folks seem to be super high on Powers-Johnson. Frazier likely goes to one of those teams in the 2nd that don't get Powers-Johnson in the 1st... If that happens Frazier goes no later than 56... Right now I would be flat out shocked if the Bills went O-Line in the first 2 rounds. Maybe if they fill the roster out a little more at DT, DE, and S... No doubt McD is going to love Frazier... We'll see... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 OK someone paid Robert Hunt a lot of money....big deal. The needs at DT, DE and WR are there an are still more expensive positions. Having said that, if you get an all pro it could be worth it I just see Beane moving around to get the value at the draft position at a need football position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Literally the late 20s has always been the sweet spot for center's off the board in rd 1 But there's probably going to be more impactful players left I can't hate on the notion of the Bills using sound draft resources at OL. That said, I think Beane has some kind of positional value metric he bakes into the Bills draft board, and C in Rd 1 ain't it. 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: But Frazier is my guy. Do you mean Zach Frazier, C from WV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 24 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: If the opinions of folks like Rick Spielman and Daniel Jeremiah matter, Powers-Johnson does not make it past Dallas at 25. Mostly because he's a possibility for Pittsburgh, Miami, and Philly before Dallas. Pittsburgh specifically is desperate for a C... Folks seem to be super high on Powers-Johnson. Frazier likely goes to one of those teams in the 2nd that don't get Powers-Johnson in the 1st... If that happens Frazier goes no later than 56... Right now I would be flat out shocked if the Bills went O-Line in the first 2 rounds. Maybe if they fill the roster out a little more at DT, DE, and S... No doubt McD is going to love Frazier... We'll see... Yeah I dont think JPJ makes it past Philly at 22 who need to replace Jason Kelce. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I get the need for a Center and the value of taking one at this spot but really this scenario is just making me more frustrated about the Boogie Basham over Creed Humphrey pick all over again. By far one of Beane's biggest draft blunders and it's not all hindsight as most people on this board were pounding the table for him with that pick and the Basham pick was always a head scratching reach that never really made any sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 If you have a Center that appears to be a once in ten year prospect that is absolutely dominant, then yes...go ahead and draft one in the first This isn't the case, and you don't use a first rounder on a center otherwise I'd rather see a trade back if your going that route 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 46 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: I get the need for a Center and the value of taking one at this spot but really this scenario is just making me more frustrated about the Boogie Basham over Creed Humphrey pick all over again. By far one of Beane's biggest draft blunders and it's not all hindsight as most people on this board were pounding the table for him with that pick and the Basham pick was always a head scratching reach that never really made any sense. He’s had 2 colossal draft blunders: Basham over Humphrey and Ford over Metcalf. Neither of those picks were hindsight, everyone here was clamoring for the player that didn’t get picked. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) My grandfather worked on the railroad & used to say: "car off track, on main track, no damage to track, track ok for normal speed". Which meant you're nuts. Wide Receiver Round 1. Edited March 19 by Donuts and Doritos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Makes me so mad linderbaum and Humphrey were in our hands and we didn't take the obvious pick. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Welcome aboard Nate - using logic - I love it. Id be very happy if this happens if Brian Thomas Jr. is not there at #28 then this scenario would be ideal. Id also like to see us trade up in the 2nd and grab a DT, maybe Sweat from Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said: OK someone paid Robert Hunt a lot of money....big deal. The needs at DT, DE and WR are there an are still more expensive positions. Having said that, if you get an all pro it could be worth it I just see Beane moving around to get the value at the draft position at a need football position. The reason why interior lineman are getting paid like tackles now is because there are so few quality offensive lineman that play at a high level. It’s the same at DE. I don’t think the Bills go that route as I think JPJ can go in the late teens and would be excellent value for the Bills at 28. I wouldnt be upset if they take him While he has never drafted IOL in the first he did make Mitch Morse the highest paid tackle at the time and he had Ryan Kalil at Center while in Carolina so he does see the value in Center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I mean sources saying McGovern was moving to center immediately after they released Morse seemed odd to me. Smokescreen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: I'm all for it. They have made the offensive line weaker so far and I am scared of what would happen if this is the starting five and something were to happen to mcgovern. They simply have to add a real center McDermott is not going to start a rookie at center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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