muppy Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 HOLY COW folks. Batten down the hatches things just got REAL up in here. If this is indeed true I am in utter joyful shock 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I mean, he's not hurting financially or anything and he knows he basically stole $$$ from us last year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Wow. Beane is on fire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, H2o said: I mean, he's not hurting financially or anything and he knows he basically stole $$$ from us last year. True … but it still surprises me considering 2024 will be his last you would think … Edited March 6 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, beebe said: If he has a huge season and earns the max amount of incentives (the 20 mill figure), the earn via incentives get applied to 2025 salary cap unless i'm mistaken. That is correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I thought he deserved a raise for supplying the fans with guaranteed player signings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Allen next is my guess. Beanes definitely back from vacay 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Broski does not want to see anymore of his friends get cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 A great move by Beane. However, I have to give Von some credit here. He was under no obligation to restructure or take a cut. Yet my gut feel is that he knows he has vacuumed up a substantial portion of our cap over the past two seasons with not much to show for it. I suspect this is is his way of making amends. I like it. 12 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: Thank god. He knew he was cooked if he didn’t take less. I know folks say cutting him was impossible, but players don’t take pay cuts unless they are on the block. Actually I think he legitimately thinks he can still play and this new deal gives him the opportunity to earn more than what he was scheduled to earn. Think about it folks... you can almost guarantee that 2 of the "hard to reach incentives" put in his contract are tackles and sacks. That means if he gets more tackles than 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 3 tackles If he gets more sacks than in 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 0 sacks. My bet is another incentive will be games played or active, and considering he started the season on PUP, that might not be hard for him, either. So yes, this is a solid for Buffalo, but he may legitimately believe he's about to earn more than he was scheduled... and all of that money goes on next year's CAP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Yep paycut moving to incentives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: True … but it still surprises me considering 2024 will be his last you would think … Maybe Beane promised him a FO position when he retires? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 8 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: OMG!! Amazing!! It is a reneg - re negotiate contact full confirmed. That is awesome. His $ is gone forever and it is now incentive ladden. Win-Win for us. And Tre gone makes my year!!!!!!!! Wimpiest Bill ever I think he legitimately thinks he can still play and this new deal gives him the opportunity to earn more than what he was scheduled to earn. You can almost guarantee that 2 of the "hard to reach incentives" put in his contract are tackles and sacks. That means if he gets more tackles than 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 3 tackles If he gets more sacks than in 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 0 sacks. My bet is another incentive will be games played or active, and considering he started the season on PUP, that might not be hard for him, either. So yes, this is a solid for Buffalo, but he may legitimately believe he's about to earn more than he was scheduled... and all of that money goes on next year's CAP. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: I just wonder when Josh's restructure is announced. Might be in play for FA or two after all. I am hoping Beane avoids restructuring Josh, which just kicks the problem down the road another season. That’s how Beane ended up where he is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Wow… Von, respect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Buddy Hix said: I am hoping Beane avoids restructuring Josh, which just kicks the problem down the road another season. That’s how Beane ended up where he is today. what??! Allen is THE FRANCHISE if you restructure anyone it’s him 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarleyNY Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 14 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Waiting on the details. Miller didn’t just give up the guaranteed money he had coming to him. I suspect he got a very nice signing bonus as part of this renegotiated contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: A great move by Beane. However, I have to give Von some credit here. He was under no obligation to restructure or take a cut. Yet my gut feel is that he knows he has vacuumed up a substantial portion of our cap over the past two seasons with not much to show for it. I suspect this is is his way of making amends. I like it. It’s all business but you gotta like his confidence to rebound this year. I would be interested in knowing what incentives are. 2024 will be an interesting year. Dark Brandon making moves that needed to be done. Go Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If that is as reported it is a proper pay cut. What I mean by that is it isn't a restructure and it isn't swapping non-guaranteed money for a smaller amount of guaranteed money. Von's $17.5m salary this year was FULLY guaranteed. He is taking a near $9m pay cut (who knows what the incentives are). That is significant. renegotiating a lower salary would be great and seems to be the case. the thread title should be changed as that’s not what a traditional restructure indicates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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