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[Warcodered]

Anyone else just have a visual of Josh Allen bouncing around from interview to interview carrying this giant Subway tube.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

19 hours ago, QB Bills said:

Love the guy. But he's either really good at hiding it or he doesn't take losses as bad as some of the greats. 

 

Either that or he knows it's a lost cause with McDermott running the show.

 

Right on the money. There's really no way to even spin how bad McD has been in the playoffs, at this point it's just blind apologetics from the people flaming this. 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Anyone else just have a visual of Josh Allen bouncing around from interview to interview carrying this giant Subway tube.

 

In TBN, there's an article about this.  Jay Skurski interviewed him while he was walking from interview to interview.  Apparently, in between, Subway was filming advertisements with Josh, so I expect Subway minions were following him around with Subway tube refills and carrying the tube for him.
 

Quote

In between, Allen filmed an advertisement for the fast-food chain Subway, which he was there to promote. As the cameras rolled, Allen smiled widely and posed with whatever the Subway representative put in his hand. As soon as the cameras turned off, though, the smile disappeared from Allen’s face.

“I mean, it sucks. I don’t like doing this stuff, you know?” Allen told The Buffalo News as he walked between interviews. “But to partner with some cool brands, again, that kind of comes with the territory. As a kid, you always kind of looked at this and thought, ‘If I’m in this position, I think it would be pretty cool to come out here and do some cool things.’ I guess that makes it a little better to at least be here, but I don’t want to be here.”

 

To this, I'm like: "Josh, Seriously?"  The man has earned $113M from the Bills so far.  He's got $30M in new cash due this season ($23.5M of which fully guaranteed last year)  and $39M next season, with $99M dead cap hit in '24 and $54.6M dead cap hit in '25. 

 

He has no reason to be there grinding through interviews and filming advertisements for Subway unless he wants to do that.

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Anyone else just have a visual of Josh Allen bouncing around from interview to interview carrying this giant Subway tube.

So that's what Hailee calls it. 😁

[billsfanmiamioh]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

In TBN, there's an article about this.  Jay Skurski interviewed him while he was walking from interview to interview.  Apparently, in between, Subway was filming advertisements with Josh, so I expect Subway minions were following him around with Subway tube refills and carrying the tube for him.
 

 

To this, I'm like: "Josh, Seriously?"  The man has earned $113M from the Bills so far.  He's got $30M in new cash due this season ($23.5M of which fully guaranteed last year)  and $39M next season, with $99M dead cap hit in '24 and $54.6M dead cap hit in '25. 

 

He has no reason to be there grinding through interviews and filming advertisements for Subway unless he wants to do that.

I think he means because he wants to be getting ready to play and not shoot commercials. 

[Chandler#81]

‘Nother interview with our favorite Subway salesman

 

[NeverOutNick]

10 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

2:58:50

 

Got a link?

NvM, I do:

 

Man I love Josh! He still holds the grudge against John Elway for passing on him. He’s got the fire when asked about seeing Mahomes in SB again but always keeps his composure even though he touches his chin with irritation that he knows he should be playing this week. Wouldn’t trade Josh for any other QB in this league. 

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

In TBN, there's an article about this.  Jay Skurski interviewed him while he was walking from interview to interview.  Apparently, in between, Subway was filming advertisements with Josh, so I expect Subway minions were following him around with Subway tube refills and carrying the tube for him.
 

 

To this, I'm like: "Josh, Seriously?"  The man has earned $113M from the Bills so far.  He's got $30M in new cash due this season ($23.5M of which fully guaranteed last year)  and $39M next season, with $99M dead cap hit in '24 and $54.6M dead cap hit in '25. 

 

He has no reason to be there grinding through interviews and filming advertisements for Subway unless he wants to do that.

Yeah I don't get it at all.. he doesn't need the money.  But he seemed to enjoy the subway canister. 

[Governor]

14 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

‘Nother interview with our favorite Subway salesman

 

It’s becoming painfully clear that next season will be the last for Josh in Buffalo.

[Thrivefourfive]

The subway money isn’t it. The NFL holds these guys hostage with the entire reputation. They can ruin anyone at a moment’s notice. Josh, and the smarts ones, do their job for the Shield during Super Bowl week.. it’s only a couple days.. the work is batshit easy, and they stay in the NFL’s good graces for all future professional and mostly personal trajectories. 

[NeverOutNick]

4 minutes ago, Governor said:

It’s becoming painfully clear that next season will be the last for Josh in Buffalo.

What? I didn’t get that at all. Maybe Diggs will be gone, complete turnover of coaching staff and FO and every other player will bail at some point and if so good riddance BUT Josh will be a Bill for life. Even if he wanted to leave there is no way Buffalo would ever let him. Letting him leave would be the most foolish decision a team has ever made in the history of the NFL. Franchise tag after franchise tag if need be lol. 

[Doc Brown]

14 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

His interview with Florio and Simms was better. Some really interesting snippets:

 

- He says his mechanics got off this year because of some of the ailments with his shoulder but he acknowledges he has to get back to working on them (interesting that he said "with the appropriate people" - anyone know if he is still working with Jordan Palmer? I think Palmer did so much on the original mechanical clean ups with the over striding);

 

- He talked about his internal dialogue with himself and it is the one worry I have with Josh in terms of temperament. I love that he holds himself accountable but I do worry at times he gets in his own head about stuff and internalises it;

 

- Cites the Ty Dunne piece as the one of two factors in the turnaround (without prompting) and then when asked further agrees with Rasul Douglas's view that McDermott's response to that article was the moment things changed;

 

- Acknowledges that if he'd just slid up slightly in the pocket on the Shakir throw he probably has a touchdown;

 

- His favourite throw is the Jake Kumerow touchdown in Denver. 

 

Really good interview. 

 

I figured they would be the best interview.  I thought the logical follow up to the Shakir throw question was to ask if he regrets not checking it down to an open Diggs but I guess he already answered that.  Simms talks about the Bills not having enough offensive weapons surrounding him all the time so I wish they asked him his thoughts on that but I understand they can only push so far.

[Governor]

8 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

What? I didn’t get that at all. Maybe Diggs will be gone, complete turnover of coaching staff and FO and every other player will bail at some point and if so good riddance BUT Josh will be a Bill for life. Even if he wanted to leave there is no way Buffalo would ever let him. Letting him leave would be the most foolish decision a team has ever made in the history of the NFL. Franchise tag after franchise tag if need be lol. 

The best situation Buffalo could hope for is to have the opportunity to choose Josh over McD after next season but I think his mind is pretty much made up already. There will be 2 California teams likely looking for QBs by then and I expect him to demand a trade.

 

A “Bill for life” was never realistic. He’s been tortured enough.

Edited February 10 by Governor

[Chandler#81]

46 minutes ago, Governor said:

It’s becoming painfully clear that next season will be the last for Josh in Buffalo.

Welcome to ignore, Guvna

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I figured they would be the best interview.  I thought the logical follow up to the Shakir throw question was to ask if he regrets not checking it down to an open Diggs but I guess he already answered that.  Simms talks about the Bills not having enough offensive weapons surrounding him all the time so I wish they asked him his thoughts on that but I understand they can only push so far.

 

Yea and Josh wouldn't have thrown his guys under the bus. Isn't his way.

[philholbroo]

20 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

His interview with Florio and Simms was better. Some really interesting snippets:

 

- He says his mechanics got off this year because of some of the ailments with his shoulder but he acknowledges he has to get back to working on them (interesting that he said "with the appropriate people" - anyone know if he is still working with Jordan Palmer? I think Palmer did so much on the original mechanical clean ups with the over striding);

 

- He talked about his internal dialogue with himself and it is the one worry I have with Josh in terms of temperament. I love that he holds himself accountable but I do worry at times he gets in his own head about stuff and internalises it;

 

- Cites the Ty Dunne piece as the one of two factors in the turnaround (without prompting) and then when asked further agrees with Rasul Douglas's view that McDermott's response to that article was the moment things changed;

 

- Acknowledges that if he'd just slid up slightly in the pocket on the Shakir throw he probably has a touchdown;

 

- His favourite throw is the Jake Kumerow touchdown in Denver. 

 

Really good interview. 

 

That TD was beautiful all around.

[AmishRifle]

I’m feeling excited from the interviews.  Sounds like Joe Brady is going to have a full off-season to install his offense.  Sounds like Cook will mature and we’ll have some great options in putting defenses in a dilemma.  Sounds like Josh is looking at nutrition this off season and taking care of his body.  Thought the talk of chest hair that led to chest definition and general QB bodies and mechanics was great.  
 

Agree with others that we need some more weapons.  I also keyed in on Josh’s statement about Andy Reid where he said guys were schemed open.  We need more of that.

 

the revelations of the Dunne article and whatever McD said were very interesting.  Highlighted as the turnaround point.
 

I feel good.  

[1ManRaid]

On 2/9/2024 at 8:48 AM, Beast said:

27:45 Zimbabwean time?

 

As my alcoholic dad liked to say, it's always 27:45 somewhere.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

On 2/9/2024 at 12:45 AM, QB Bills said:

Love the guy. But he's either really good at hiding it or he doesn't take losses as bad as some of the greats. 

 

Either that or he knows it's a lost cause with McDermott running the show.

Aaron Rodgers overcame McCarthy as coach and won a Super Bowl,

Allen can overcome McDermott.

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

Aaron Rodgers overcame McCarthy as coach and won a Super Bowl,

Allen can overcome McDermott.

 

Unfortunately I think 2021 was his opportunity to do that and McDermott still ruined it at the end. Rodgers's playoff run in that Super Bowl year reminded me of Allen's in 2021. He was so on point that nothing could have stopped him. That might be a once in a career kind of playoff run, it was for Rodgers. And it still wasn't enough for us to finally get our one Super Bowl win.

[GunnerBill]

14 hours ago, Governor said:

It’s becoming painfully clear that next season will be the last for Josh in Buffalo.

 

Why? Is he gonna play for Subway Ball Club in 2025?

[Aussie Joe]

What’s Josh’s dead cap going to be when they restructure him again - $100m?

 

I think he might be here again in 2025  

[Mr. WEO]

15 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

The subway money isn’t it. The NFL holds these guys hostage with the entire reputation. They can ruin anyone at a moment’s notice. Josh, and the smarts ones, do their job for the Shield during Super Bowl week.. it’s only a couple days.. the work is batshit easy, and they stay in the NFL’s good graces for all future professional and mostly personal trajectories. 

 

What??

Who's reputation has "The Shield" ruined for not doing interviews...or held "hostage"?

 

What are you talking about?

[Thrivefourfive]

11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

What??

Who's reputation has "The Shield" ruined for not doing interviews...or held "hostage"?

 

What are you talking about?

Sorry, I have time to explain this to you.

[Mr. WEO]

23 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Sorry, I have time to explain this to you.

that’s what I figured

[Jay_Fixit]

On 2/9/2024 at 4:35 AM, Man with No Name said:

it's called emotional regulation. 

Is it? This is an annoying reply.

[Thrivefourfive]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

that’s what I figured

Colin Kaepernick.

 

I don’t know why you’re so upset, and I don’t believe that you don’t know the NFL explicitly controls every player’s NIL. Josh’s big ol smiling head and pitch perfect line of speak is an NFL dream poster player. You don’t think they’d like it if Lamar Jackson was better on camera? 
 

If you don’t play by the NFL rules (John Gruden) you’re not getting center stage. 
 

What exactly do you think is going on Super Bowl week? Players, on their own, deciding to fly to Vegas, to do the spots, to advertise the NFL’s chosen brands.. because they’re independent contractors? Come on, Wee. I know you’re better than that. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

What’s Josh’s dead cap going to be when they restructure him again - $100m?

 

I think he might be here again in 2025  

There is an out after 2024 I believe according to Sportrac

32 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Colin Kaepernick.

 

I don’t know why you’re so upset, and I don’t believe that you don’t know the NFL explicitly controls every player’s NIL. Josh’s big ol smiling head and pitch perfect line of speak is an NFL dream poster player. You don’t think they’d like it if Lamar Jackson was better on camera? 
 

If you don’t play by the NFL rules (John Gruden) you’re not getting center stage. 
 

What exactly do you think is going on Super Bowl week? Players, on their own, deciding to fly to Vegas, to do the spots, to advertise the NFL’s chosen brands.. because they’re independent contractors? Come on, Wee. I know you’re better than that. 

Then why doesn't the NFL make sure Allen is in and win a Superbowl?

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Colin Kaepernick.

 

I don’t know why you’re so upset, and I don’t believe that you don’t know the NFL explicitly controls every player’s NIL. Josh’s big ol smiling head and pitch perfect line of speak is an NFL dream poster player. You don’t think they’d like it if Lamar Jackson was better on camera? 
 

If you don’t play by the NFL rules (John Gruden) you’re not getting center stage. 
 

What exactly do you think is going on Super Bowl week? Players, on their own, deciding to fly to Vegas, to do the spots, to advertise the NFL’s chosen brands.. because they’re independent contractors? Come on, Wee. I know you’re better than that. 

This is definitely why Josh skipped the NFL honors ceremony to play trivia. 🤣

[Billsatlastin2018]

On 2/9/2024 at 12:45 AM, QB Bills said:

Love the guy. But he's either really good at hiding it or he doesn't take losses as bad as some of the greats. 

 

Either that or he knows it's a lost cause with McDermott running the show.

“I’ll take Door #3!”

[Billsatlastin2018]

On 2/9/2024 at 12:45 PM, Rubes said:

Honestly, me too.

 

I keep thinking that, if they had converted that first down after the two-minute warning, forced KC to use their timeouts, and then scored a TD with seconds remaining, we would have been hailing that final drive as masterful and the overall strategy of beating KC as perfect. Sigh.

 

I keep thinking, was it only Allen that ***** up the perfect strategy? You run the clock down on ONE drive from 8:25 on to lose your mind at the 2MW? 
 

That’s on McD!

 

First of all, Cook… not Allen was questionable on First Down to run. Having done that,you must, must attempt to get that critical one final First Down through underneath, in bounds patterns (available) and/or Allen run conversion on 3D. You must, must do so,to burn those TOs Kermit had! 
 

Scoring at 1:45 + 2 TOs was totally useless!
 

THAT INFO MUST BE CONVEYED TO 17.

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Colin Kaepernick.

 

I don’t know why you’re so upset, and I don’t believe that you don’t know the NFL explicitly controls every player’s NIL. Josh’s big ol smiling head and pitch perfect line of speak is an NFL dream poster player. You don’t think they’d like it if Lamar Jackson was better on camera? 
 

If you don’t play by the NFL rules (John Gruden) you’re not getting center stage. 
 

What exactly do you think is going on Super Bowl week? Players, on their own, deciding to fly to Vegas, to do the spots, to advertise the NFL’s chosen brands.. because they’re independent contractors? Come on, Wee. I know you’re better than that. 

 

 

Upset?  No just pointing out BS ("the NFL explicitly controls every player’s NIL",  the NFL ruins players' careers if they don't do interviews).  

 

Also, it what you say was true, Josh would have the most brand endorsement deals, by your logic.  He doesn't. 

 

Gruden embarrassed himself, his team and the League---and was still paid tens of millions for it.   

 

They go because they are paid by the brands to promote this brand or that.  Subway, for instance. 

[Thrivefourfive]

16 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Then why doesn't the NFL make sure Allen is in and win a Superbowl?

Being silly. But an answer to your ridiculous question would be they have an Allen in the Super Bowl. Pat Mahomes plays the role very very well. The NFL is giddy. 

[Thrivefourfive]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Upset?  No just pointing out BS ("the NFL explicitly controls every player’s NIL",  the NFL ruins players' careers if they don't do interviews).  

 

Also, it what you say was true, Josh would have the most brand endorsement deals, by your logic.  He doesn't. 

 

Gruden embarrassed himself, his team and the League---and was still paid tens of millions for it.   

 

They go because they are paid by the brands to promote this brand or that.  Subway, for instance. 

Okay, back to a conversation. Thank you. I’ll accept being called a bullshitter, if you will. 
 

No, subway doesn’t pick and choose their endorsers without the NFL’s blessing. The NFL is ultimately pulling strings on every single second we see during Super Bowl week. I’m serious, Weo, this is an eleven figure business during its annual mega event in front of the world, how in the holy hell do they let anything take place that isn’t league blessed? If Josh spouted off about this and that, do you think the NFL would allow him to keep doing Subway ads?, even in the off season?! 😂

 

Gruden was fine until it was time to take down Snyder (because he was historically expendable [this was by far Goodell’s boldest move of his tenure] to cater to social trends…). Gruden embarrassed himself… and why do we know about it??

 

What do you got on Kaep? Love to hear it. 
 

Orchestrating basic ad placement interviews is not the same thing as fixing Super Bowl results…. really guys? 

[Mr. WEO]

15 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Okay, back to a conversation. Thank you. I’ll accept being called a bullshitter, if you will. 
 

No, subway doesn’t pick and choose their endorsers without the NFL’s blessing. The NFL is ultimately pulling strings on every single second we see during Super Bowl week. I’m serious, Weo, this is an eleven figure business during its annual mega event in front of the world, how in the holy hell do they let anything take place that isn’t league blessed? If Josh spouted off about this and that, do you think the NFL would allow him to keep doing Subway ads?, even in the off season?! 😂

 

Gruden was fine until it was time to take down Snyder (because he was historically expendable [this was by far Goodell’s boldest move of his tenure] to cater to social trends…). Gruden embarrassed himself… and why do we know about it??

 

What do you got on Kaep? Love to hear it. 
 

Orchestrating basic ad placement interviews is not the same thing as fixing Super Bowl results…. really guys? 

 

 

You think the NFL has to give players permission to enter into contracts with companies to endorse products?  Or that they can cancel the endorsement deal Josh made with Subway?

 

lol---that's pretty wild.  

 

[Thrivefourfive]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

You think the NFL has to give players permission to enter into contracts with companies to endorse products?  Or that they can cancel the endorsement deal Josh made with Subway?

 

lol---that's pretty wild.  

 

                  NFL

                 /      \

               /          \
      Subway — JA17

 

Yes. I think if the NFL didn’t like the Josh Allen brand, he doesn’t get his huge smiling head all over Super Bowl week pushing League blessed company advertisements. The biggest fast food chain in the country and one of the faces of the NFL do not organically collide during Super Bowl week (only!!!😂) without the NFL’s stamp of approval. Yes, absolutely. 

[Mr. WEO]

30 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

                  NFL

                 /      \

               /          \
      Subway — JA17

 

Yes. I think if the NFL didn’t like the Josh Allen brand, he doesn’t get his huge smiling head all over Super Bowl week pushing League blessed company advertisements. The biggest fast food chain in the country and one of the faces of the NFL do not organically collide during Super Bowl week (only!!!😂) without the NFL’s stamp of approval. Yes, absolutely. 

 

lol... "league blessed".  Subway is paying the NFL for the sponsorship, not a blessing.   Josh works for Subway in all of these appearances--it was a master stroke for Subway to have him do as many "SB press row" interviews as possible with their product featured.  How is it you don't understand this?

 

Or maybe you're just trolling me---OK...you got me! I  thought you were serious for a minute.

[Thrivefourfive]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

lol... "league blessed".  Subway is paying the NFL for the sponsorship, not a blessing.   Josh works for Subway in all of these appearances--it was a master stroke for Subway to have him do as many "SB press row" interviews as possible with their product featured.  How is it you don't understand this?

 

Or maybe you're just trolling me---OK...you got me! I  thought you were serious for a minute.

So the NFL decides to accept that payment, correct?! And the contract is for the specific player, in this instance, Josh Allen.

 

I’m not trolling per sé, but I admit I know nothing, and everything that I write is from me literally sitting on a couch. I like banter, and I’m okay with being called out for silly ideas 😊 I’m sure we both have greater talents *that hopefully pay the bills* outside of being willing posters on our favorite team’s message board ☺️ It’s all good, Weo. I enjoy the conversation, pretty much any conversation, about football‼️

[Mr. WEO]

9 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

So the NFL decides to accept that payment, correct?! And the contract is for the specific player, in this instance, Josh Allen.

 

I’m not trolling per sé, but I admit I know nothing, and everything that I write is from me literally sitting on a couch. I like banter, and I’m okay with being called out for silly ideas 😊 I’m sure we both have greater talents *that hopefully pay the bills* outside of being willing posters on our favorite team’s message board ☺️ It’s all good, Weo. I enjoy the conversation, pretty much any conversation, about football‼️

Subway is paying both the NFL and Allen. Obviously separate contracts—and obviously the NFL didn’t tell Subway who yo hire.

 

Plus all these interviews are with media outlets, not with the NFL. 

[Thrivefourfive]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Subway is paying both the NFL and Allen. Obviously separate contracts—and obviously the NFL didn’t tell Subway who yo hire.

 

Plus all these interviews are with media outlets, not with the NFL. 

Hypothetically, if Subway were to hire Colin Kaepernick to do these spots, the NFL wouldn’t allow. Don’t you think?