KingBoots8 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Al Holcomb to become Bills LB coach, Marcus West as D-Line coach: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-name-al-holcomb-as-linebackers-coach-marcus-west-as-defensive-line-coach Edited February 2 by KingBoots8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MiltonWaddams Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Will anybody be brought in as an external candidate?!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: Will anybody be brought in as an external candidate?!! I do believe this is one of McDermott's faults... to an extent. It's great for continuity, etc .. I get that but there has to be new faces, new ideas, new concepts, new coaches that are going to challenge and move the needle for us. It's been said on here 10000x about the definition of insanity.... and this is proving to be true. Keeping all of the same people in the building and on staff is not a recipe to 'get over the hump" hell, I dont think our special teams coordinator lost his job and they were atrocious this year. 4 3 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Will anybody be brought in as an external candidate?!! Consensus in the building was NO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dude Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I need to get my foot in the door at One Bills Drive. Before I know it I’ll be running the place. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I do believe this is one of McDermott's faults... to an extent. It's great for continuity, etc .. I get that but there has to be new faces, new ideas, new concepts, new coaches that are going to challenge and move the needle for us. It's been said on here 10000x about the definition of insanity.... and this is proving to be true. Keeping all of the same people in the building and on staff is not a recipe to 'get over the hump" hell, I dont think our special teams coordinator lost his job and they were atrocious this year. For better or worse this does give us a real look into the coaching staff (McDermott primarily) and organization's mindset. Inside the organization they clearly don't believe that they're losing due to coaching. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I think Marcus West was a real credible candidate for promotion. He has earned his chops over the last decade fighting his way up the ladder taking jobs at small time FBS schools before getting to the Bills in 2022. Classic example of a guy who doesn't have the contacts to get in on who he knows and has really had to prove himself. The people I have spoken to on him say he is a hell of a teacher. Hope he makes the step up seamlessly. Al Holcomb has obviously been a linebackers coach in the league before. 12 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Welcome to Buffalo. Where the best man for the job is always already here. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Marcus West joined in 2022, which is recent enough to give him leeway in my mind re: the DL’s lack of development given all the prime resources that’ve been devoted to it. I mean… we’ll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 23 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I do believe this is one of McDermott's faults... to an extent. It's great for continuity, etc .. I get that but there has to be new faces, new ideas, new concepts, new coaches that are going to challenge and move the needle for us. It's been said on here 10000x about the definition of insanity.... and this is proving to be true. Keeping all of the same people in the building and on staff is not a recipe to 'get over the hump" hell, I dont think our special teams coordinator lost his job and they were atrocious this year. This part is maddening, the punter is worse, kicker was way worse, kick coverage was awful for a team that tries to force returns, and the punt coverage was very bad. The fake was poorly executed and he had to be involved in the too many men debacle. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 So who are the available defensive assistants that are so much better than who they hired? Who are the available co ordinators better than Babich and Brady? People wild. Give me young coordinators over old retreads. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 32 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Will anybody be brought in as an external candidate?!! Mafia stays within the family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 37 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Will anybody be brought in as an external candidate?!! Nope. they promote from within. 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Mafia stays within the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 41 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Will anybody be brought in as an external candidate?!! Yes, they will be the asst. LB coach and asst D line. This is how McDermott builds his pipeline and brings in new ideas. Giving young guys a shot to make it in the league. Maybe you uncover a gem of a coach. Read up on Mike McDaniels and his assent to HC 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 37 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Will anybody be brought in as an external candidate?!! Why does it matter? The idea is promote from with in at every business. Unless a department is failing than you may look for outside resources. Buffalo has had good offenses and good defenses. The front office is highly regarded. Why not hire individuals who are being looked at by your competitors? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 39 minutes ago, warrior9 said: I do believe this is one of McDermott's faults... to an extent. It's great for continuity, etc .. I get that but there has to be new faces, new ideas, new concepts, new coaches that are going to challenge and move the needle for us. It's been said on here 10000x about the definition of insanity.... and this is proving to be true. Keeping all of the same people in the building and on staff is not a recipe to 'get over the hump" hell, I dont think our special teams coordinator lost his job and they were atrocious this year. What makes you think these guys won’t have some new concepts or ideas in their new roles? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 14 minutes ago, Trogdor said: This part is maddening, the punter is worse, kicker was way worse, kick coverage was awful for a team that tries to force returns, and the punt coverage was very bad. The fake was poorly executed and he had to be involved in the too many men debacle. and in 2022 they were a top 5 unit in a bunch of categories in special teams and top 10 in most of the others. I'm not happy with how they performed, but I think its worth seeing if he can turn it around 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Trogdor said: This part is maddening, the punter is worse, kicker was way worse, kick coverage was awful for a team that tries to force returns, and the punt coverage was very bad. The fake was poorly executed and he had to be involved in the too many men debacle. Need a fall guy for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattlinBill Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Why does it matter? The idea is promote from with in at every business. Unless a department is failing than you may look for outside resources. Buffalo has had good offenses and good defenses. The front office is highly regarded. Why not hire individuals who are being looked at by your competitors? This is it right here, the best businesses grow and development talent from within, probably why the Bill's have been one of the most successful teams the past five years. Just because there is one dominat team right now doesn't mean the rest are all failures. Very few teams in the NFL have been more successful recently...very few. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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