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I contend that this team's problem isn't coaching, it's talent.


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Did you watch last year when Metcalf was in the playoffs 😳 op.

 

Maybe not let me remind you he was crying on the bench yeah.  Cause he disappeared in that game.

 

So for the record put your 10 draft pics here in your post trade up or down if need be on draft day the player has to be there when we pick. So we can come back to this 2 years from know and see how you did.

 

 

Not wait 3 years later and say we should have picked him.

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7 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

The Ravens will never win a SB with Lamar Jackson. He is not a high end enough passer to win a title 

Would have been competitive a decade or so ago. I'm not sure it's possible to just ride a defense to a Superbowl any more unless there is a large regression in the passing game. Even undead 70 year old Tom Brady offered more than Lamar is here

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17 minutes ago, balln said:

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oliver is still an average rotational player to me. Wow he showed up vs the chargers!

 

color me impressed !

 

he didn’t make any play vs kc. He’s weak

agaisnt the run. His short arms / can’t get off blocks. And his rush is undisciplined more often than not and our d gets burned by the qb bc of it 

You have minimal credibility after the average rotational comment. You know average doesn’t get 10 sacks as a tackle and top 10 in QB pressures. 35 individual tackles. Our defense was clueless as a unit giving up 27 points on 47 total offensive snaps. You want to blame Oliver for KC having receivers wide open all night or runs that looked like no one wanted to tackle anybody. There was AJ Klein at MLB and and the rookie Willams also defending the run. The Defensive coach also made no adjustments. “ His short arms / can’t get off blocks “ and his rushes are undisciplined “. These are the comments of someone who knows short arms when he sees them on TV and is an acknowledged authority on disciplined rushing. Forgetting about the other tackles and edge rushers getting stoned by O-lines, in your expert judgment it’s because of Oliver. Red hots like you shouldn’t be allowed to post.

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14 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Oliver was once again invisible in a season-ending game.

 

Sunday was not his best game. Granted. Joe Thuney is absolutely elite, but Oliver was not at his best. 

 

I think he played well in the other two KC playoff defeats although if all you do is box score scout you won't have seen it. He was bad in last year's Cincy game but he was hurt in that game. 

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When is the last time you said "Wow, that was brilliant coaching?", "He had that team ready.", "Yeah, he was ready for..." in regards to McD?  He can keep a locker room together, he can squeeze a lot out of his players, but when it comes to gameday coaching, he's just...meh.  McD is the Tyrod Taylor of coaching.  Good enough to elevate bad teams, but bad enough to limit good ones.

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3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

If you had to ask me to choose whether to fire beane or McDermott, I choose beane. Why? While he's overall built a competitive roster, he's utterly failed at drafting gane-changing players. 

 

You know my position on some of his picks, but ask yourself honestly: would you rather have a Metcalf or an Oliver? Basham or Humphrey? AJE or Uche? I could go on, but beane seems to prefer a whole roster of average over high ceiling guys (oddly, with the exception of the QB).

 

Also, this team lacks speed all over the field on both offense and defense, and I'd argue that the lack of speed on defense is the most notable reason why this team has failed in the postseason.

 

Lastly, beane's cap management and free agent acquisitions have been suboptimal, and the cap issues are going to do us in this coming season, I get the feeling. So, if you're asking me who's holding the bag of failure, it's Brandon Beane.

Without a doubt

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3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Did coaching drop a deep shot that hit a receiver in the hands? Did coaching get manhandled back into the QB in the clutch? Did coaching get scorched by a 34 yo tight end in single coverage? Was coaching incapable of winning a pass rush battle all game?

 

 

 

I'm late to the party but did you really try to diminish Kelce as just a 34 yo tight end? And while I get this hindsight, who do you put the geriatric's performance on today - the coach or the GM?

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3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


This. I’d go so far as to say we could draft WR’s in Round 1, 2 & 3.
 

This class is so good we need to take advantage.  If at least 2 hit, your offense is reborn as a much more terrifying group. Especially if those players are a dynamic speed threat 

 

imagine adding Jaylen Waddle & Zay Flowers

Hey I'm all for this or at the very least 2 wrs and a safety in the first 3 rounds. No way clap signs off on this.

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Beane has not brought in a infusion of young talent, we are arguably one of the oldest teams in the league "26th or 27th" going into training camp 2024.  Our Safeties are as slow as hell, our corners are middle of the road at best.  Our entire wide receivers corps going into next year needs a complete overhaul. We lack any speed everywhere on special teams on a consistent basis, and our special teams have been torched the last couple of years giving up big plays at the worst time possible because we lack speed there too.  

 

Our D-Line is good but it is not elite. It fails over and over to dictate the game when needed the most.  McD and Beane's fault there.  Then there is the playoffs, in the playoffs the Offense and Defense always disappears and when it matters the most they can't make the elite game winning plays to win in the playoffs.  It happened again at home this year against KC.  Zero explosive plays on O and no Game changing plays by the D.

 

Beane has put us in CAP purgatory for 2024 and the cuts and player turnover is coming, you can bet on it.

 

 

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how many effin threads are we going to have about this?  winning in the NFL takes both talent and coaching into account.  the combined output of each side has to be excellent and one needs to make up for the other if there is imbalance.  

fortunately the bills have both and will be excellent for years to follow...

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Well...the problem with this argument is the Bills have led the NFL in point differential by an absurd margin since the beginning of 2020. Like so far ahead it's not even close.

 

If teams with all this "top end talent" are getting steamrolled so often by the Bills then what is that saying?

 

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