Fake Slide should be 15 yard penalty

[Ta111]

16 minutes ago, The Avenger said:

What even IS a "fake slide"? A running QB isn't allowed to hesitate or move laterally, they just need to run straight forward at full speed or be flagged?

The only way you could have a “fake slide” is where the QB goes down on a knee just above the field and then gets up and continues to run. Problem is at that point the play would be called dead.

[bigduke6]

lol on the TD run?   zero way to know what he was or wasnt thinking there.   looks like a juke or fake,  or maybe he thought about sliding then said f it.   no way that ever gets called even if fake sliding was indeed a penalty.   whoever this poster is,  is super salty.

 

didnt Pickett actually fake slide in college?  like you could actually see his thought process with the fake.  it was blatant.   

 

if the original poster isnt a troll,  well,  hes got issues.

Edited January 16 by bigduke6

[NoSaint]

3 minutes ago, Ta111 said:

The only way you could have a “fake slide” is where the QB goes down on a knee just above the field and then gets up and continues to run. Problem is at that point the play would be called dead.

the Pickett play in college is a great example of what shouldn’t be allowed. It’s a way different motion than this play though.

47 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

imagine those that actually believe that was an attempt at a fake slide. 

 

open your 👀

he’s just a big guy that doesn’t turn on a dime when going full speed 

 

seems clear he was changing his angle to use the blocks not pretending to go down 

[What a Tuel]

14 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

The nearest defender was 7 yards away.....

 

 

 

If the nearest defender was 7 yards away, why would the defender expect him to slide?

[JaCrispy]

And how, exactly, does the OP know it wasn’t a juke?

 

Pre existing bias, perhaps? 🤔

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

And how, exactly, does the OP know it wasn’t a juke?

 

Pre existing bias, perhaps? 🤔

Because the 10,000th best qb of all time Chase Daniel tweeted it was a fake slide or something lol 

[K-9]

2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

And how, exactly, does the OP know it wasn’t a juke?

 

Pre existing bias, perhaps? 🤔

He knows because he saw his own QB do an actual fake slide in the season opener vs. the Lions. 

[pennstate10]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Because the 10,000th best qb of all time Chase Daniel tweeted it was a fake slide or something lol 

*10,001 best

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

10 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

If the nearest defender was 7 yards away, why would the defender expect him to slide?

No defenders quit on the play…people are really more mad at the Steelers defense than Josh and I guess don’t realize it.  Like how do you get frozen by that juke lol it’s kind of embarrassing.  None of them gave up but a couple froze for a split second to adjust their angles 

Edited January 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[ddaryl]

2 hours ago, TH3 said:

Get used to it… JA got the refs in his pocket now and the NFL is rigged for the Bills this year!

And it is well passed due. Go Bills!

9 hours ago, The Wiz said:

I heard Josh check the play pre snap to "boogie woogie woogie woogie"

It's electric !!!!

[C.Biscuit97]

It was awesome from Josh and we ain’t apologizing. But there would be a full on melt down if Mahomes did this to us haha!

 

it is BS because the nfl has defenders afraid to breathe on qbs now. So we’re not giving the points back but I bet this does get addressed in the offseason. 

[May Day 10]

Im seeing this 'fake slide' thing coming from spiteful Miami and Kansas City, but it didnt even cross my mind.

 

Watching the replay it doesnt look like the beginning of a slide at all.  It looks like a sudden change in direction on a somewhat slippery field to hit a hole.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

50 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

lol on the TD run?   zero way to know what he was or wasnt thinking there.   looks like a juke or fake,  or maybe he thought about sliding then said f it.   no way that ever gets called even if fake sliding was indeed a penalty.   whoever this poster is,  is super salty.

 

didnt Pickett actually fake slide in college?  like you could actually see his thought process with the fake.  it was blatant.   

 

if the original poster isnt a troll,  well,  hes got issues.

 

Slowed down to wait for his block i thought.   The only guy who could've tackled him just... i dunno punched at the ball and just bounced right off him like tecmo bowl. 

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It was awesome from Josh and we ain’t apologizing. But there would be a full on melt down if Mahomes did this to us haha!

 

it is BS because the nfl has defenders afraid to breathe on qbs now. So we’re not giving the points back but I bet this does get addressed in the offseason. 

 

Tackle him?  Mahomes almost always goes out of bounds.  He does try and initiate contact out of bounds and stretch the yards he gets to try and draw flags.  

[Beck Water]

39 minutes ago, bigduke6 said:

lol on the TD run?   zero way to know what he was or wasnt thinking there.   looks like a juke or fake,  or maybe he thought about sliding then said f it.   no way that ever gets called even if fake sliding was indeed a penalty.   whoever this poster is,  is super salty.

 

didnt Pickett actually fake slide in college?  like you could actually see his thought process with the fake.  it was blatant.   

 

if the original poster isnt a troll,  well,  hes got issues.

 

Josh has fake-slid at times.  He's talked about it on podcasts.  Josh said post-game that "they" were yelling "Slide!" at him (I assume teammates).

 

But that looked more like a juke to me, and Josh is also on film having a full complement of running back-like moves in the open field.   I think he learnt from Shady his rookie year because he seemed to have more and more of them as his rookie season went on.

 

@Zerovoltz , a KC fan, has been accused of being a troll and I've sometimes defended him.  But he's either trolling here, or not thinking through the consequences, because his own precious QB is a regular and repeat offender at faking he'll go OOB and then tiptoeing down the sidelines 15 yards after he gets the defender to pull up for fear of a late hit PF.  I'd be  totally OK with taking an occasional 15 yd penalty ....as long as they penalize Mahomes for it.  Every.  Time.

 

There was a pretty egregious penalty in the KC-GB game on KC's final drive against Mr. Simone Biles himself, GB S Jonathan Owens.  GB leading by 8 points.  2nd and 10, Mahomes runs.  I know he's going for the marker, everyone else on the field knows he's going for the marker, Jonathan Owens knows he's going for the marker and takes the perfect angle to hit him and try to knock him back and stop him short to create a 3rd down.  The announcers were aghast when a 15 yd UR was called.  I was aghast. 

 

Never more happy than to see that drive stall out and GB get the Dub.

 

 

[Jauronimo]

Mahomes constantly sets up for a fake slide or run out of bounds and then goes for extra yards after the defenders ease up.  WTF are you even talking about @Zerovoltz?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, TH3 said:

Get used to it… JA got the refs in his pocket now and the NFL is rigged for the Bills this year!

Haha it’s weird if it’s rigged for Josh that we got screwed late with no calls numerous times this year.  People only talk about the no call that won us the giants game but we got hosed on that jets punt return, hosed on that pats ineligible man downfield flag pickup, hosed against the eagles the entire game, and probably a few others I don’t remember 

Edited January 16 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Beck Water]

5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It was awesome from Josh and we ain’t apologizing. But there would be a full on melt down if Mahomes did this to us haha!

 

Open field running and running over people is just not Mahomes bag, whereas Josh gets off on it.  

 

Mahomes thing is the fake step on the sideline then dancing down it.

 

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Haha it’s weird if it’s rigged for Josh that we got screwed late with no calls numerous times this year.  People only talk about the no call that one us the giants game but we got hosed on that jets punt return, hosed on that pats ineligible man downfield flag pickup, hosed against the eagles the entire game, and probably a few others I don’t remember 

 

We got hosed a few times in the Steelers game.  Pretty clear false start on the Steelers 1st TD.  Pretty clear DH on Diggs multiple times through the game.

 

It would make me happy if we could get the offensive Offside and the false starts on Jawaan Taylor vs KC.  He does it like every freakin' play and they call it maybe once a game.

Edited January 16 by Beck Water

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Open field running and running over people is just not Mahomes bag, whereas Josh gets off on it.  

 

Mahomes thing is the fake step on the sideline then dancing down it.

 

We got hosed a few times in the Steelers game.  Pretty clear false start on the Steelers 1st TD.  Pretty clear DH on Diggs multiple times through the game.

I don’t like that dancing on the sideline move either. I think you should be allowed to get destroyed if you do that. 

[Warcodered]

8 hours ago, Governor said:

Hopefully there’s a “from behind” view of that play.

If there is it's going to be hard to make anything out through Josh's afterburners.

7 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

A pump fake, juke, fake pitch...etc are all plays that by rule DO NOT require the defender to give up on the play.  A slide is specificially intended to protect the QB because by rule, once he slides he has given up, and by rule the defender must also.  It's not the same thing.  

 

The defender was quoted after the game saying he wasn't sure if Josh was about to slide or not....causing him to pause...and not that Josh would know or care, but said player had already been fined and suspended for a late hits already this year.  The defender to Josh's front right also pretty much gives up on the play (which is his fault, didn't play to whistle) so probably also thought Josh was about to slide.  Doesn't look like a guy fighting to stay in the play and make a tackle at all.  

If the defenders made that mistake then that's all on them it was a monumentally stupid decision. It's the Playoffs, and it's Josh ***** Allen, did they watch tape on him all week or not? You watch tape on him running in the open field and this is exactly how he creates more yards by making defenders take bad angles. It's not like they were right on top of him he had a ton of space still, all of them should have been thinking they needed to close and get hands on him even if he was sliding as they got close. Then what happens Allen took a different angle, the defender that tried to adjust gets ran the ***** over, and the others quickly realize "Oh ***** he's past our angle and we can't catch up!"

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I don’t like that dancing on the sideline move either. I think you should be allowed to get destroyed if you do that. 

 

It's just like a player drawing a foul in basketball.  You can do it too, so i don't have much of an issue with it.  Just don't push him down, if anything hold him up on his feet and you won't get a call.