Jump to content

What's Wrong With The Passing O?


Donuts and Doritos

Recommended Posts

Passing O. has looked off ever since the Philly game (has actually looked off a lot of the season). Philly game is the last game w/ more than 1 passing TD.

 

What's the problem? (Is it Josh, Brady, the Playmakers or something else)? Here's the player game stats (in order of top catchers on the team this season):

 

Josh Allen:

                    Yds.      TD.    Int

NE.    15/30  169         0       1

LA.    15/21.  237.        1.       1

DAL.   7/15.     94.       1.       0

KC.   23/42.  233.       1.       1

PHIL 29/51.   339.       2.      1

 

1. Diggs:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    4/7.       26.         0

LA.    5/8.       29.         0

DAL. 4/5.        48.         0

KC.   4/11.       24.         0

PHIL 6/11.       74.         1

 

2. Davis:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    2/3.       21.         0

LA.    4/6.      130.        1

DAL.  0/1.          0.        0

KC.    0/2.         0.        0

PHIL  6/12.     105.       1

 

3. Kincaid:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    4/7.       87.         0

LA.    1/2.         7.          0

DAL.  0/2.         0.         0

KC.    5/8.       21.         0

PHIL  5/6.       38.         0

 

4. Shakir:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    4/4.       39.         0

LA.    3/3.       45.         0

DAL.  0/1.          0.         0

KC.     1/1.        12.         0

PHIL  3/5.       47.          0

 

5. Cook:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    1/3.       -4.         0

LA.    0/0.         0.         0

DAL. 2/3.        42.         1

KC.    5/5.       83.         1

PHIL  6/7.        57.         0

 

6. Knox:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    No stats registered

LA.    2/2.       26.         0

DAL.  No stats registered 

KC.    3/3.       36.         0

PHIL  Didn't play

 

Harty:  1 catch 25 yds KC game

Murray: 1 catch 21 yds KC game

             3 catch 18 yds Phil game

Sherfield: 1 catch 9 yds KC game

 

(Source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills)

Edited by Donuts and Doritos
  • Agree 1
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

We came into the season knowing that we didn't have a #2 WR on the roster. Now it turns out we don't have a true #1 either. We have no speed, no YAC ability, below average separation and catch ability from our WR corps. That's why our passing offense has looked so inconsistent, there is zero margin for error.

  • Like (+1) 30
  • Agree 13
  • Thank you (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I was under the impression from some people on this board, Cover 1, and WGR that Dorsey was responsible for anything wrong with the offense, the economy, the Ukraine, and the Middle East.

 

 

 

Edited by Peter
  • Like (+1) 2
  • Haha (+1) 11
  • Awesome! (+1) 3
  • Thank you (+1) 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just posted in another thread Allen and Diggs are close but aren’t clicking 100%.  In the last two weeks Allen and Diggs are 1-2 yards short or 1-2 yards long on a few throws that would SIGNIFICANTLY alter their final stat totals.

 

I also think our passing game has suffered with Knox on the field more than Kincaid.

 

Also NFL coaches get paid a ton of money to figure out how to stop the Bills.  I think the blueprint is to take away Diggs and hope Allen gets bored taking the easy stuff.

 

And with our skill positions sometimes the “easy stuff” ain’t easy.

  • Like (+1) 4
  • Agree 5
  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

We came into the season knowing that we didn't have a #2 WR on the roster. Now it turns out we don't have a true #1 either. We have no speed, no YAC ability, below average separation and catch ability from our WR corps. That's why our passing offense has looked so inconsistent, there is zero margin for error.

Yeah, I get that Diggs is double covered, but he has been shockingly dropping some catches or not coming up with the ones in years past that he was always good for. It has been tossed around that he might be hurt? I don't think NOW is the right time for him to start the cryptic stuff that he is doing right now on SM. He also needs to take some accountability. Really don't want to roll into Miami with him pouting.

  • Eyeroll 2
  • Agree 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Aimee75 said:

I get that Diggs is double covered

 

He hasn't been double covered since at least the Chiefs game. He is just plain getting swallowed up against single man coverage. At least when he was getting bracketed it was opening other things up. As of right now nothing is getting opened up because no one can win their basic 1v1 assignment.

 

Edited by HappyDays
  • Like (+1) 3
  • Disagree 1
  • Agree 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

The problem is we never replaced Beasley, Brown and Sanders.

 

Sherfield and Harty. Really? 
 

We have Mr. Butt punt and a guy who changed his last name 

Why have they regressed so much off last year? It's the same group, even should be somewhat better. Production has really declined with Diggs and and Gabe is very inconsistent. Brady really hasn't been able to get the WR unit going. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Why have they regressed so much off last year? It's the same group, even should be somewhat better. Production has really declined with Diggs and and Gabe is very inconsistent. Brady really hasn't been able to get the WR unit going. 

 

Because Diggs just isn't very good right now. I see a lot of Bills fans are afraid to say it out loud. Everyone sees his production has gone down and is grasping for answers. The simplest answer is the correct one. I'm not sure there are 20 WRs he is out playing right now. It's a massive concern heading into the playoffs.

  • Like (+1) 3
  • Eyeroll 1
  • Disagree 3
  • Agree 6
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

My biggest memories of Sherfield from this season will be of him kind of getting open over the middle for a 15-20 yard gain, but getting kind of interfered w/ and not being able to complete the play.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

49 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Passing O. has looked off ever since the Philly game (has actually looked off a lot of the season). Philly game is the last game w/ more than 1 passing TD.

 

What's the problem? (Is it Josh, Brady, the Playmakers or something else)? Here's the player game stats (in order of top catchers on the team this season):

 

Josh Allen:

                    Yds.      TD.    Int

NE.    15/30  169         0       1

LA.    15/21.  237.        1.       1

DAL.   7/15.     94.       1.       0

KC.   23/42.  233.       1.       1

PHIL 29/51.   339.       2.      1

 

1. Diggs:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    4/7.       26.         0

LA.    5/8.       29.         0

DAL. 4/5.        48.         0

KC.   4/11.       24.         0

PHIL 6/11.       74.         1

 

2. Davis:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    2/3.       21.         0

LA.    4/6.      130.        1

DAL.  0/1.          0.        0

KC.    0/2.         0.        0

PHIL  6/12.     105.       1

 

3. Kincaid:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    4/7.       87.         0

LA.    1/2.         7.          0

DAL.  0/2.         0.         0

KC.    5/8.       21.         0

PHIL  5/6.       38.         0

 

4. Shakir:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    4/4.       39.         0

LA.    3/3.       45.         0

DAL.  0/1.          0.         0

KC.     1/1.        12.         0

PHIL  3/5.       47.          0

 

5. Cook:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    1/3.       -4.         0

LA.    0/0.         0.         0

DAL. 2/3.        42.         1

KC.    5/5.       83.         1

PHIL  6/7.        57.         0

 

6. Knox:

                      Yds.       TD

NE.    No stats registered

LA.    2/2.       26.         0

DAL.  No stats registered 

KC.    3/3.       36.         0

PHIL  Didn't play

 

Harty:  1 catch 25 yds KC game

Murray: 1 catch 21 yds KC game

             3 catch 18 yds Phil game

Sherfield: 1 catch 9 yds KC game

 

(Source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills)

We got some sugar high after Cowboys game and think were some ground and pound team

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Agree 1
  • Thank you (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well to be fair answer is easy on two of them

 

1 rbis patriots defense is actually REALLY GOOD

 

2 Dallas game we didn’t need to throw we ran all over them.

 

josh was off out west but we never travel out west and win so I’ll take it

 

 

  • Awesome! (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The decision for OC is critical. I hope McD isn’t complacent with Brady because he’s the easy choice and actually considers other legit options. 
 

When it was time to replace Daboll, we interviewed Dorsey, Hall (I think. Maybe not), and Tee Martin. Not a single person with OC experience was considered that I can recall.
 

It’s probably time for an outsider to come and in shake things up on offense. 

Edited by Bangarang
  • Like (+1) 3
  • Agree 3
  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Diggs looks hurt. His cuts are rounded off, and has little separation. 

 

The short passes on the bubble screens are Brady trying to get him an easy one. But that's not really what Diggs does. The rush today, and the quick throw to the left was another example of trying to get him going. The long pass to him over the top today looked like he was running fast, but not sprinting. 

 

I think he's got a lingering injury where he can go, but can't cut like he could in the early part of the year. 

  • Like (+1) 4
  • Agree 3
  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, Aimee75 said:

Yeah, I get that Diggs is double covered, but he has been shockingly dropping some catches or not coming up with the ones in years past that he was always good for. It has been tossed around that he might be hurt? I don't think NOW is the right time for him to start the cryptic stuff that he is doing right now on SM. He also needs to take some accountability. Really don't want to roll into Miami with him pouting.

 

Uh-oh, what’s Diggs posting now?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Drew21PA said:

 

 

josh was off out west but we never travel out west and win so I’ll take it

 

 


Remember the season opener against the Rams last year?


He was off today back east ..
 

Edited by Aussie Joe
  • Haha (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

This topic is OLD. A NEW topic should be started unless there is a very specific reason to revive this one.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...