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Tyler Dunne story on McDermott - 3 parts, 25 interviews, one damning conclusion


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6 minutes ago, davefan66 said:


I agree.

 

As suggested elsewhere here, Pegula needs to do his due diligence and ferret out the truth.  If he has lost the team, then he has to go.  If he’s a national embarrassment, he most likely will go.  If the fans turn on him, tough sell for him to be back.  
 

No way you can spin this into something less damaging, especially the 9/11 story.  I can’t see him coming back.  The question is, if Pegula is of the opinion he has lost the team and the fans, does he immediately fire him or wait?  I’d image he’d wait.

 

 

The 9/11 anecdote will pass.  Give it a week and people will be talking about something else, whatever it might be.  Don’t forget, at one point our owner was accused of making a pretty incendiary racial comment.  Nobody has brought that up in awhile. 

 

The bigger issue is whether, 9/11 and Niagara Falls malapropisms aside, McD has lost/exhausted the locker room.  If the answer to that question is yes, then it’s time to either change the players or change the coach.  

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4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

You almost have to wait minus a huge uproar. 
 

He’s the DC AND HC, so you have to fill those 2 spots and the 2 spots of the coaches you move. 

 

You could make Washington or Babich the interim HC and the other the interim DC, so Brady can keep developing as OC.

 

 

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2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

So how do you explain the massive difference in scoring production from our first four weeks and since then?  

 

It can't be the competition, the caliber of defenses in Dorsey's next 6 games before being fired was poor, not a team currently ranked in the top-10, four of six ranked 20th or worse.  The "blueprint" as you put it was out from last season, not new for this one.  

 

What's your explanation?  

 

 


Dude, I can’t keep explaining this to you.  All you’re doing to everyone is ignoring info answering your question and then asking the same question.  This question has been answered multiple times now.  
 

But it’s a waste of time to discuss further because you’re never going to accept any answer that doesn’t directly blame McD for everything.  

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2 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that a certain number of points on record was a fact.  

 

My bad.  

 

Things are clearing up as to our differences of opinion.  :D 

 

 

 

 

So having said all of that, Dorsey's entirely at fault, McD bears only a modicum token of responsibility, and McD's responsible for how good Allen is?  

Is that how we all should read that?  

Again, I've never defended Dorsey, I have no idea why you're on my pant-leg about that.  Let go already.  

 

LOL 

 

 


Not even remotely what I said.  But ok.  

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With all of the information coming from anonymous sources, there is no way to determine how much is true (maybe all, maybe none).  Or if this comes from coaches/players still on the team, or from people who were fired or cut.

 

I also don't find these details to be as damning as many people are going to claim.

 

For example, the part about Ken Dorsey.... I mean, when a team is underperforming, it's almost always a coordinator that is first to the chopping block.  And Sean McDermott can't exactly fire himself.  The decision to get rid of Dorsey was the right one.  Sure it wasn't the best timing, considering the Denver game was blown by the defense and a special teams penalty.  But the offense had been struggling for well over a month, and wasn't showing signs of turning it around.  Something needed to be done to save the season.

 

I'm also shrugging my shoulders about the stuff criticizing McDermott's personality and coaching style.  None of that matters if the team is winning.  Bill Belichick is a dictator in a hooded sweatshirt.  When the Patriots were winning Super Bowls, the "Patriot Way' was considered the best example of how to run a franchise.  Now that Tom Brady's retired and the team sucks, he's a hardass that nobody wants to play for.  Meanwhile, our previous coach (Rex Ryan) was a friendly and charismatic player's coach... and he got criticized for not being structured, organized and enough like Belichick.

 

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20 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

People on twitter seem bothered by his statement about newton ruining the panthers... 

 

Is he wrong?  

Yes lol. That team ran almost 100% on Newton. Did he fade fast? Yes, but the run they had was him. McD might be one of the most overrated DCs in history. He put together one of the all time worst defenses in Philly and was mediocre at best in Carolina with a very good line and HoF MLB. 

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5 minutes ago, peterpan said:

Does anyone have more info from behind the paywall

 

Not paying 8 dollars to read an article - you can buy books for that and it's a total hit piece.

 

The top thing is the 9/11 one.  

 

There's a thing about him being pissed about the WRs buying the coach a car and not wanting him to be friends with players.  When Brad pitt says in a movie you shouldn't be friends with the players because you need to be able to cut them - its a good point - but when mcdermott relays the same message, he's a tight ass.  

 

Something about him disliking cam newton and blaming him for ruining the panthers.  Not wrong IMO - Cam's a selfish dude and made that team about him.  Teams win, not players. 

 

 

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Just now, mjt328 said:

With all of the information coming from anonymous sources, there is no way to determine how much is true (maybe all, maybe none).  Or if this comes from coaches/players still on the team, or from people who were fired or cut.

 

I also don't find these details to be as damning as many people are going to claim.

 

For example, the part about Ken Dorsey.... I mean, when a team is underperforming, it's almost always a coordinator that is first to the chopping block.  And Sean McDermott can't exactly fire himself.  The decision to get rid of Dorsey was the right one.  Sure it wasn't the best timing, considering the Denver game was blown by the defense and a special teams penalty.  But the offense had been struggling for well over a month, and wasn't showing signs of turning it around.  Something needed to be done to save the season.

 

I'm also shrugging my shoulders about the stuff criticizing McDermott's personality and coaching style.  None of that matters if the team is winning.  Bill Belichick is a dictator in a hooded sweatshirt.  When the Patriots were winning Super Bowls, the "Patriot Way' was considered the best example of how to run a franchise.  Now that Tom Brady's retired and the team sucks, he's a hardass that nobody wants to play for.  Meanwhile, our previous coach (Rex Ryan) was a friendly and charismatic player's coach... and he got criticized for not being structured, organized and enough like Belichick.

 

No way for most of us to determine whether it’s true.  The Pegulas, however, can conduct such things as exit interviews and get people to talk. 

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16 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

This is just piling on. But Florio also has an ax to grind with Bills and McDermott. I'm sure why.


I completely disagree. I am a huge reader of Florio's work and I have never seen Florio be anything but kind about the Bills. He tells it like it is, but he never bashes Buffalo. He routinely talks about how great Josh Allen is and his co-host, Chris Simms, is an unabashed Josh Allen fanatic. 

Florio does have some click-baity moments, but he is overall, in my personal opinion, the best NFL reporter.

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