It’s Chiefs week - and the season is on the line

[Warcodered]

14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

This is hilarious overly defensive behavior from MVS:

 

 

How dare you say I suck and can't catch a football to save my life right now.

 

Sir this is a Wendy's.

22 minutes ago, stuvian said:

Chiefs WR Justyn Ross suspended under league personal conduct policy 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-suspends-chiefs-justyn-ross-six-games-for-violating-personal-conduct-policy/

 

With our own situation with Von Miller doesn't feel like we have any room to talk.....then again it is the Chiefs. Kind of feels convenient that his IR placement ate up so much of his suspension, like he wouldn't have been available anyway.

[stuvian]

19 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

This is hilarious overly defensive behavior from MVS:

 

 

his name has been translated to Watch Me While I Drop Things

[Einstein]

5 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

 

 

Greenberg nailed that.

[strive_for_five_guy]

42 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Imagine the toll it's taking on McDermott as they try to prepare
 

McD will probably work up his best speech yet, comparing himself to historical martyrs and being able to use that as the rallying cry.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Regardless of what you really think about the McD article/stories: 

 

It really stinks that more time and discussion wasn’t spent this week on actual football Xs and Os. 
 

Idk about all the divas out there on TBD but I’m not interested in the here say, the drama, etc. 

 

I want to talk, watch and discuss ball. The news this week almost entirely took the focus away from the match up, and I think it’s just a microcosm of our society in how click bait can dominate over more substantial topics. 
 

Go Bills

 

I'm interested in the stuff but would also like to see some X's and O's.  It's been a long two weeks.  I'm ready to watch some football.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

They'll miss his 2 receptions in 7 games, For Sure.

 

I actually knew nothing about this guy or what happened but I am curious now.  Why was he put on the commisioner exempt list and then suspended after charges were eventually dropped and Von is still cleared to play?

 

Like I still don't know what happened other than he was also arrested for domestic assault.  Just curious the difference between how both players were handled.  You usually google these things.  Do you know?

[K-9]

56 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

McD will probably work up his best speech yet, comparing himself to historical martyrs and being able to use that as the rallying cry.

Let’s hope he doesn’t choose Osama Bin Ladin as the example of a martyr.

Edited December 9, 2023 by K-9

[The Firebaugh Kid]

This game will be the beginning of historic run, in what has been so far a very forgettable season. It will soon become the most unforgettable season 🏆 we’ve ever known. I feel it, I see it, and I love bourbon 🥃 Go Bills

[Starr Almighty]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

This is hilarious overly defensive behavior from MVS:

 

 

I don't think he's being defensive at all. He can't catch, never could. So he's like why are you asking me about my status quo? it's unusual, aren't you used to me dropping balls by now? I did it with Aaron too.

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I don't think he's being defensive at all. He can't catch, never could. So he's like why are you asking me about my status quo? it's unusual, aren't you used to me dropping balls by now? I did it with Aaron too.

He's being defensive because the question was so vague that he had to attach all the negative aspects himself.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I actually knew nothing about this guy or what happened but I am curious now.  Why was he put on the commisioner exempt list and then suspended after charges were eventually dropped and Von is still cleared to play?

 

Like I still don't know what happened other than he was also arrested for domestic assault.  Just curious the difference between how both players were handled.  You usually google these things.  Do you know?

 

Thread here

 

There's not a lot of detail, but his case sounds similar to Dodson's case from 2019.

1) as a first time offender, Dodson was charged with DV, pleaded to a misdemeanor ("disorderly conduct" I think) and entered a diversion program which would get his record cleared if he completed it (he did).

2) after the criminal case was settled, the NFL did its own investigation, found there was evidence of DV by their definition, and suspended Dodson the minimal 6 games

I think this happened in the off-season so Dodson was just suspended at the start of the season.  Since he was charged, otherwise he would have been put on the exempt list while the criminal case played out.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-nfl/news/nfl-hands-down-ruling-on-former-clemson-wr-justyn-ross-43405

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He had the initial criminal charges dropped in late November with a diversion program that is often reserved for first-time offenders who commit minor crimes. Previously, he had pleaded not guilty to charges of domestic battery and misdemeanor property damage in an incident with his girlfriend at the time.

 

Sounds like when criminal charges were filed, Ross went on the "exempt" list.

 

The difference with Von, is that while he was arrested (by police, based on a judicial probable cause finding), and released on bail, he has not yet been charged with a crime.  That is why he is not on the exempt list.  The NFL can and will do their own investigation, but they normally don't while a criminal case is pending.

 

Hope that helps.  It's not just "I usually google", need to understand the NFL's DV police, understand that arrest doesn't always mean charges have been filed, and put the pieces I google together.

Edited December 9, 2023 by Beck Water

[stinky finger]

2 hours ago, stuvian said:

no Pacheco means no run game for KC

This is Helaire-ious.

[Doc Brown]

Bills must treat this game as if there's no tomorrow if we're going to pull this one off.  Similar to the Japanese kamikaze pilots when they attacked Pearl Harbor.

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Bills must treat this game as if there's no tomorrow if we're going to pull this one off.  Similar to the Japanese kamikaze pilots when they attacked Pearl Harbor.

I SEE what you did here.

 

😆 

[Starr Almighty]

49 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He's being defensive because the question was so vague that he had to attach all the negative aspects himself.

I was being sarcastic just so I could point out he has bricks at the end of his arms. He's being defensive 😂😂 I love watching him drop the ball in key situations for KC

[BigAl2526]

Thread is too long to read so I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but KC is missing several important starters for the game.  Isiah Pacheco -RB, Donovan Smith - LT, Drew Tranquil LB and Bryan Cook - safety.  Pacheco is a good RB.  McKinnon and Edwards Helaire are not as effective.  Obviously, missing their starting left tackle may make it easier to contain and pressure Mahomes.  On the other side of the LOS, Tranquil has been playing in place of Nick Bolton.  That means KC is down to their third string LB.  That could affect KC's short passing defense as well as their run defense.  It doesn't hurt that KC is down a starting safety.   Meanwhile, thanks to the bye, Buffalo is as healthy as they been in a while.  Buffalo would be even better off if they activate Elam and especially if they can activate Knox.

[Simon]

7 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Tranquil has been playing in place of Nick Bolton.  That means KC is down to their third string LB. 

 

Bolton practiced all week and is supposed to be back on the field Sunday.

[Utah John]

The Chiefs will be without Pacheco and their starting left tackle.  And three others.  But Mahomes, Kelce and Jones will still be on the field.  Cross your fingers.

23 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

Thread is too long to read so I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but KC is missing several important starters for the game.  Isiah Pacheco -RB, Donovan Smith - LT, Drew Tranquil LB and Bryan Cook - safety.  Pacheco is a good RB.  McKinnon and Edwards Helaire are not as effective.  Obviously, missing their starting left tackle may make it easier to contain and pressure Mahomes.  On the other side of the LOS, Tranquil has been playing in place of Nick Bolton.  That means KC is down to their third string LB.  That could affect KC's short passing defense as well as their run defense.  It doesn't hurt that KC is down a starting safety.   Meanwhile, thanks to the bye, Buffalo is as healthy as they been in a while.  Buffalo would be even better off if they activate Elam and especially if they can activate Knox.

I think the Bills are keeping Elam off the field to maximize his trade value.  We can get a sixth if we don't let anyone see him play, otherwise a seventh.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Thread here

 

There's not a lot of detail, but his case sounds similar to Dodson's case from 2019.

1) as a first time offender, Dodson was charged with DV, pleaded to a misdemeanor ("disorderly conduct" I think) and entered a diversion program which would get his record cleared if he completed it (he did).

2) after the criminal case was settled, the NFL did its own investigation, found there was evidence of DV by their definition, and suspended Dodson the minimal 6 games

I think this happened in the off-season so Dodson was just suspended at the start of the season.  Since he was charged, otherwise he would have been put on the exempt list while the criminal case played out.

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-nfl/news/nfl-hands-down-ruling-on-former-clemson-wr-justyn-ross-43405

 

Sounds like when criminal charges were filed, Ross went on the "exempt" list.

 

The difference with Von, is that while he was arrested (by police, based on a judicial probable cause finding), and released on bail, he has not yet been charged with a crime.  That is why he is not on the exempt list.  The NFL can and will do their own investigation, but they normally don't while a criminal case is pending.

 

Hope that helps.  It's not just "I usually google", need to understand the NFL's DV police, understand that arrest doesn't always mean charges have been filed, and put the pieces I google together.

 

Thanks.  Just seems weird to me that you can be arrested and have to post bail when you aren't actually charged with anything.

 

As for the bolded, I didn't mean that in any kind of way.  Just an easy way of me to put it.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Utah John said:

The Chiefs will be without Pacheco and their starting left tackle.  And three others.  But Mahomes, Kelce and Jones will still be on the field.  Cross your fingers.

I think the Bills are keeping Elam off the field to maximize his trade value.  We can get a sixth if we don't let anyone see him play, otherwise a seventh.

 

I would say they are keeping him off the roster because they aren't using him so why use a roster spot and have to cut someone else?  If they need him then they will probably put him back on the roster before the window closes.