Ray Stonada Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) What would you do, if you were Terry or Kim Pegula, the Bills (for the Sabres, I have no clue)? Curious to hear. For me, number one, take advantage of the bye: this week, I call McDermott and Beane separately into my office. I have a consultant with me who is ready to present them with the numbers on the late-game and overtime collapses from the 2019 playoffs to now, and where this ranks among NFL teams (it may well be dead last over that time). The consultant will have also ran the numbers on other top coaches' records in similar situations (tied or within one-score in the fourth quarter). Say that our goal is to being a Super Bowl victory to Buffalo, and that their progress so far has peaked in 2020 with the AFC title game appearance, and gone in reverse each season since--with the exception of the 2021 playoffs where we looked unstoppable but for another defensive collapse against Kansas City. Ask each (again, separately) why they think these issues are happening. Is it that our players are at fault? Is it that the players are tired, that they're not prepared, or they are not executing the plan? Or is the plan itself not right? Is it end-game strategy, and game management? Having heard their diagnosis, I ask what their plan to stop these collapses from happening is. I ask each if the other is currently up to the task of fixing this. If McDermott and Beane are on the same page, I ask the consultant to gather a group of advisors (drawn from high level NFL ex coaches, players, and GMs) to give us advice on their diagnosis and their plans to fix it. And we empower them to put that plan into place, NEXT WEEK. That's the best chance I can imagine giving them to stop this insanity. If they can't, then we don't make the playoffs, and I am interviewing new head coaches in January, and getting rid of McDermott. Beane gets to meet the new head coach and see if there is a fit between them. To my mind, Beane has done the job lately... From the 2023 draft, Kincaid and O'Torrence look good, Dorian Williams is promising. In 2022, Beane picked Cook, Terrell Bernard, Khalil Shakir, and Christian Benford. He finds good veterans, like Daquan Jones, Leonard Floyd, Rasul Douglas and Linval Joseph. Where he could improve is finding real STARS, not just good NFL starters. Whether Beane stays will depend on how he reacts to the new head coach. Essentially, if I owned the team I would not be firing McDermott till the end of the year. But I would doing investigation of whether he is capable of fixing this. (I have my doubts.) Edited November 28, 2023 by Ray Stonada vague title 3 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarleyNY Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 My only decision is whether I'd wait until the off-season to make a change at HC. I think today would be better as it would give the team a chance to win this season, but McDermott has gotten rid of every coordinator with the experience to become interim HC. If I thought that Joe Brady was up to it I'd pull the trigger now, but I doubt that is the case. So it is likely I'd have to wait until the offseason to find my new HC. I'd let him decide what to do at GM. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I would have fired him by now during the bye week. Get it over with and have someone on staff take over for the rest of the season. Start the new HC search ASAP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 What I wonder about is what happens with Beane if Pegs decides he wants Mcd fired. Remember this was a strange process, he hired Mcd who then basically picked Beane for GM, the opposite of how it's supposed to work. They really have been a package from the start. So, will Beane stay, will he resign? Will he be asked to find the next HC if Mcd is fired? Anybody have any insight into how this might go? I'm finally done with Mcd, but Beane imo is one of the best GM in the game, and certainly our best since Polian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: My only decision is whether I'd wait until the off-season to make a change at HC. I think today would be better as it would give the team a chance to win this season, but McDermott has gotten rid of every coordinator with the experience to become interim HC. If I thought that Joe Brady was up to it I'd pull the trigger now, but I doubt that is the case. So it is likely I'd have to wait until the offseason to find my new HC. I'd let him decide what to do at GM. If they were going to fire McDermott in season, then yesterday should have been the day. Bye week. Promote Joe Brady to interim HC and give him 2 weeks to get ready for the Chiefs as HC. If they don't do it at this time, then Sean is here for the rest of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, Gregg said: If they were going to fire McDermott in season, then yesterday should have been the day. Bye week. Promote Joe Brady to interim HC and give him 2 weeks to get ready for the Chiefs as HC. If they don't do it at this time, then Sean is here for the rest of the season. I agree. I assumed I couldn't go back in time because if that is part of this exercize I'd have made the change a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 take out 0.5% of my wealth in $50 bills and Eisenhower “silver” dollars, and swim in it like Scrooge McDuck. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, JMM said: What I wonder about is what happens with Beane if Pegs decides he wants Mcd fired. Remember this was a strange process, he hired Mcd who then basically picked Beane for GM, the opposite of how it's supposed to work. They really have been a package from the start. So, will Beane stay, will he resign? Will he be asked to find the next HC if Mcd is fired? Anybody have any insight into how this might go? I'm finally done with Mcd, but Beane imo is one of the best GM in the game, and certainly our best since Polian. Beane would stay. I'm fairly convinced a lot of the early round misses is Beane reaching for the needs that McDermott is perceiving on the team. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, JMM said: What I wonder about is what happens with Beane if Pegs decides he wants Mcd fired. Remember this was a strange process, he hired Mcd who then basically picked Beane for GM, the opposite of how it's supposed to work. They really have been a package from the start. So, will Beane stay, will he resign? Will he be asked to find the next HC if Mcd is fired? Anybody have any insight into how this might go? I'm finally done with Mcd, but Beane imo is one of the best GM in the game, and certainly our best since Polian. They aren't a package deal. The Jets hired Adam Gase to be the HC (Gase LOL) who then recommended that JD be hired for the GM job. Same way McDermott and Beane got hired here. Gase got fired and JD is still the GM of the Jets. So just because one gets fired doesn't mean the other one will. It is Pegula's call, and he will do what he wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, RiotAct said: take out 0.5% of my wealth in $50 bills and Eisenhower “silver” dollars, and swim in it like Scrooge McDuck. Woo-hoo-hoo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Barring a public player mutiny, there is zero chance that McDermott will be fired in season. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ray Stonada said: What would you do, if you were Terry or Kim Pegula, the Bills (for the Sabres, I have no clue)? Curious to hear. For me, number one, take advantage of the bye: this week, I call McDermott and Beane separately into my office. I have a consultant with me who is ready to present them with the numbers on the late-game and overtime collapses from the 2019 playoffs to now, and where this ranks among NFL teams (it may well be dead last over that time). The consultant will have also ran the numbers on other top coaches' records in similar situations (tied or within one-score in the fourth quarter). Say that our goal is to being a Super Bowl victory to Buffalo, and that their progress so far has peaked in 2020 with the AFC title game appearance, and gone in reverse each season since--with the exception of the 2021 playoffs where we looked unstoppable but for another defensive collapse against Kansas City. Ask each (again, separately) why they think these issues are happening. Is it that our players are at fault? Is it that the players are tired, that they're not prepared, or they are not executing the plan? Or is the plan itself not right? Is it end-game strategy, and game management? Having heard their diagnosis, I ask what their plan to stop these collapses from happening is. I ask each if the other is currently up to the task of fixing this. If McDermott and Beane are on the same page, I ask the consultant to gather a group of advisors (drawn from high level NFL ex coaches, players, and GMs) to give us advice on their diagnosis and their plans to fix it. And we empower them to put that plan into place, NEXT WEEK. That's the best chance I can imagine giving them to stop this insanity. If they can't, then we don't make the playoffs, and I am interviewing new head coaches in January, and getting rid of McDermott. Beane gets to meet the new head coach and see if there is a fit between them. To my mind, Beane has done the job lately... From the 2023 draft, Kincaid and O'Torrence look good, Dorian Williams is promising. In 2022, Beane picked Cook, Terrell Bernard, Khalil Shakir, and Christian Benford. He finds good veterans, like Daquan Jones, Leonard Floyd, Rasul Douglas and Linval Joseph. Where he could improve is finding real STARS, not just good NFL starters. Whether Beane stays will depend on how he reacts to the new head coach. Essentially, if I owned the team I would not be firing McDermott till the end of the year. But I would doing investigation of whether he is capable of fixing this. (I have my doubts.) McDermott: "it's definitely our players fault, they are really tired. I do an excellent job at preparation, they definitely don't execute the plan I layout. Game plans are terrific, end game strategy is fine and game management is phenomenal. The players make me burn those timeouts. I have 22 excuses, 11 on offense and 11 on defense. That's the problem, Terry. Are we done here? I gotta put together a great defensive game plan to beat the bye week. That would be embarrassing if the players can't execute my wonderful game plan and game management against the bye week" Edited November 28, 2023 by Buffalo03 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: What would you do, if you were Terry or Kim Pegula, the Bills (for the Sabres, I have no clue)? Curious to hear. For me, number one, take advantage of the bye: this week, I call McDermott and Beane separately into my office. I have a consultant with me who is ready to present them with the numbers on the late-game and overtime collapses from the 2019 playoffs to now, and where this ranks among NFL teams (it may well be dead last over that time). The consultant will have also ran the numbers on other top coaches' records in similar situations (tied or within one-score in the fourth quarter). Say that our goal is to being a Super Bowl victory to Buffalo, and that their progress so far has peaked in 2020 with the AFC title game appearance, and gone in reverse each season since--with the exception of the 2021 playoffs where we looked unstoppable but for another defensive collapse against Kansas City. Ask each (again, separately) why they think these issues are happening. Is it that our players are at fault? Is it that the players are tired, that they're not prepared, or they are not executing the plan? Or is the plan itself not right? Is it end-game strategy, and game management? Having heard their diagnosis, I ask what their plan to stop these collapses from happening is. I ask each if the other is currently up to the task of fixing this. If McDermott and Beane are on the same page, I ask the consultant to gather a group of advisors (drawn from high level NFL ex coaches, players, and GMs) to give us advice on their diagnosis and their plans to fix it. And we empower them to put that plan into place, NEXT WEEK. That's the best chance I can imagine giving them to stop this insanity. If they can't, then we don't make the playoffs, and I am interviewing new head coaches in January, and getting rid of McDermott. Beane gets to meet the new head coach and see if there is a fit between them. To my mind, Beane has done the job lately... From the 2023 draft, Kincaid and O'Torrence look good, Dorian Williams is promising. In 2022, Beane picked Cook, Terrell Bernard, Khalil Shakir, and Christian Benford. He finds good veterans, like Daquan Jones, Leonard Floyd, Rasul Douglas and Linval Joseph. Where he could improve is finding real STARS, not just good NFL starters. Whether Beane stays will depend on how he reacts to the new head coach. Essentially, if I owned the team I would not be firing McDermott till the end of the year. But I would doing investigation of whether he is capable of fixing this. (I have my doubts.) Let me add a bit of realism to this fanfic. If you were Pegula, you would likely do none of that. What you would more than likely be doing is meeting with the accounting department. Checking finances. How much money did you make? Then you would base any decisions off that. To take it a step further, a Super Bowl title is way down on their list of top priorities. Would it be nice? Sure. To them though it's nothing more then temporary bragging rights over the other member of the billionaire club. This has always been the case. These pressers that Owners give about building championship teams is lip service. They sell an idea and we feed that cash cow. Things change when finances change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: What would you do, if you were Terry or Kim Pegula, the Bills (for the Sabres, I have no clue)? Curious to hear. For me, number one, take advantage of the bye: this week, I call McDermott and Beane separately into my office. I have a consultant with me who is ready to present them with the numbers on the late-game and overtime collapses from the 2019 playoffs to now, and where this ranks among NFL teams (it may well be dead last over that time). The consultant will have also ran the numbers on other top coaches' records in similar situations (tied or within one-score in the fourth quarter). Say that our goal is to being a Super Bowl victory to Buffalo, and that their progress so far has peaked in 2020 with the AFC title game appearance, and gone in reverse each season since--with the exception of the 2021 playoffs where we looked unstoppable but for another defensive collapse against Kansas City. Ask each (again, separately) why they think these issues are happening. Is it that our players are at fault? Is it that the players are tired, that they're not prepared, or they are not executing the plan? Or is the plan itself not right? Is it end-game strategy, and game management? Having heard their diagnosis, I ask what their plan to stop these collapses from happening is. I ask each if the other is currently up to the task of fixing this. If McDermott and Beane are on the same page, I ask the consultant to gather a group of advisors (drawn from high level NFL ex coaches, players, and GMs) to give us advice on their diagnosis and their plans to fix it. And we empower them to put that plan into place, NEXT WEEK. That's the best chance I can imagine giving them to stop this insanity. If they can't, then we don't make the playoffs, and I am interviewing new head coaches in January, and getting rid of McDermott. Beane gets to meet the new head coach and see if there is a fit between them. To my mind, Beane has done the job lately... From the 2023 draft, Kincaid and O'Torrence look good, Dorian Williams is promising. In 2022, Beane picked Cook, Terrell Bernard, Khalil Shakir, and Christian Benford. He finds good veterans, like Daquan Jones, Leonard Floyd, Rasul Douglas and Linval Joseph. Where he could improve is finding real STARS, not just good NFL starters. Whether Beane stays will depend on how he reacts to the new head coach. Essentially, if I owned the team I would not be firing McDermott till the end of the year. But I would doing investigation of whether he is capable of fixing this. (I have my doubts.) Are you actually Terry Pegula? 🤔🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I’m not a fan of McDermott, at all. 2017 was complete luck and the rest of his accomplishments are because of Josh and Josh alone. But you give the guy the rest of the season or until we are eliminated 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Let me add a bit of realism to this fanfic. If you were Pegula, you would likely do none of that. What you would more than likely be doing is meeting with the accounting department. Checking finances. How much money did you make? Then you would base any decisions off that. To take it a step further, a Super Bowl title is way down on their list of top priorities. Would it be nice? Sure. To them though it's nothing more then temporary bragging rights over the other member of the billionaire club. This has always been the case. These pressers that Owners give about building championship teams is lip service. They sell an idea and we feed that cash cow. Things change when finances change. He wants to fill the new stadium. Raised ticket prices and PSL fees with a declining team is not a winning formula. If anything, that will be the reason Pegula puts pressure on McDermott and Beane to fix this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Sell both teams to Taylor Swift. It's the only hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Beane would stay. I'm fairly convinced a lot of the early round misses is Beane reaching for the needs that McDermott is perceiving on the team. Everything good = Beane Everything bad = McDermott Solid thinking, bro. Beane has never made a bad move 28 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: My only decision is whether I'd wait until the off-season to make a change at HC. I think today would be better as it would give the team a chance to win this season, but McDermott has gotten rid of every coordinator with the experience to become interim HC. If I thought that Joe Brady was up to it I'd pull the trigger now, but I doubt that is the case. So it is likely I'd have to wait until the offseason to find my new HC. I'd let him decide what to do at GM. Blow up everything and hand it to the OC after 2 games with zero playoff experience? What could go wrong? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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