DORSEY FIRED, Joe Brady Interim OC

[Georgia Bill]

It's going to be very interesting to see how the players respond this week against the Jets - the team we played when our season got off on the wrong foot and somehow turned into a chapter from "The gang that couldn't shoot straight"

[34-30]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Anyone else find it odd that this dude just made this account 19 hours ago after Dorsey got fired and has pretty much just ragged on how Josh is the problem since making that account?

Unrelated. Just how the conversations have evolved. Been reading for a long time, decided to join the discussions.

 

There is plenty of blame to go around. I don't think Allen is the only problem. I think I challenge the notion that he isn't one of them. And by one them..I just mean his current level of play isn't good enough.  You can complete 7 of 10 all day but if 1 of other 3 are consistently caught by the other team, its not getting it done.  Punts win games, INT/fumbles do not.

 

Most of all, i don't like what I'm seeing in his demeanor. Defeatist. Despair.  He's the leader of the team. Gotta show it at ALL times. He's one of the best QB's in the NFL. He's not playing like it right now. He's not acting like it right now.

[stevewin]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Anyone else find it odd that this dude just made this account 19 hours ago after Dorsey got fired and has pretty much just ragged on how Josh is the problem since making that account?

Let's see: 

 

34-30

 

K (11)  E (5)  N (14)  D (4) = 34

Q (17)  B (2)  11 = 30

 

Connect The Dots

[Chaos]

Was Dorsey responsible for 12 men on the field? 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

B***h move by McDermott.

 

why now? The offense has four turnovers, three of which were flukey and none of the four on Dorsey. Bills probably score 30 and win easily if they have 1 turnover instead of 3.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Sammy Watkins' Rib

[Milanos Milano]

4 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Was Dorsey responsible for 12 men on the field? 

Sorry ms Dorsey we are moving on. Don’t worry, McD is on the hot seat and maybe joining your husband. 

[Thrivefourfive]

There’s a chance that Allen is the problem here. It’s hard to win conference championships, let alone Super Bowls, and that’s the expectation in Buffalo. What if that’s not in the cards for this guy. He’s playing terribly, and the picks he throws are what you’d see from bad quarterbacks. There’s a problem with JA17. Does he ever come back from bad plays during games? He’s a front runner. And when he’s down, he acts like someone took his coco crisp.

 

is this going to be 10 more years of coaches being responsible with the task of “fixing Josh Allen” for it only to never ever happen. He’s six years in, this isn’t looking great. 
 

He just does not seem like the type of team leader that holds guys accountable. Again, I think he cares more about being liked than doing what’s necessary. He didn’t lead anything great in college or in high school, so what experience does he has leading an NFL team? Pretty much none. 
 

I mean how bad does this get? McDermott gets fired. Then what?? What if Josh Allen is Jay Cutler… 

[Airseven]

44 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I do feel bad for Dorsey in that I think he was trying to teach Josh how to dink and dunk therefore making him the true ultimate weapon, but Josh is not built that way. Dorsey tried to simplify things and beat teams with execution, but this is not the team for that.

Further to the point, Dorsey was the fourth-tier problem behind Beane (1), McDermott (2), and Allen (3). But hopefully, there’s at least a short-term spark of motivation/creativity.

[34-30]

14 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Let's see: 

 

34-30

 

K (11)  E (5)  N (14)  D (4) = 34

Q (17)  B (2)  11 = 30

 

Connect The Dots

Closer to 1 6 90  57=W

[DuckyBoys]

Offense was stagnant almost to the point of pop warner football   Bills make things too hard  3rd and short run the football from under center  Use Harty underneath not have the little guy running deep outs  His skill set can be that much different than Beasley  Need to have a checkdown available for Allen at all times  Where are the screen passes/end arounds/jet sweep?  Just because you have a good qb doesnt mean you dont need to mix things up and keep defenses guessing

[Thurman#1]

21 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Three years in row, the Bills have fired coordinators. I’m no front office savant, but that’s a wrap. All three phases, gone. What a track record. That is unsurvivable for McDermott. It’s his staff that he’s gutting. Who would want to even work with this coward at this point.  

 

 

Simply not right. Or rather, it's right that you're ot a front office savant. Not to mention there's no evidence, beyond the fact that people want to believe it, that Frazier was fired.

 

Very survivable. Most particularly if they improve now. But even if they keep playing at this level, McD's most likely got at least another year because of how well this team has played before this year under him. It's not a sure thing but it's likely.

 

The idea's dumb. If a coach that fired his unit coaches couldn't get people to take over those jobs, most of the teams in the league would not be able to get OCs or DCs. And instead, it's not a problem.

[Chaos]

17 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said:

Sorry ms Dorsey we are moving on. Don’t worry, McD is on the hot seat and maybe joining your husband. 

asinine post

[The Jokeman]

18 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

B***h move by McDermott.

 

why now? The offense has four turnovers, three of which were flukey and none of the four on McDermott. Bills probably score 30 and win easily if they have 1 turnover instead of 3.

For all we know there was some turmoil and McDermott just couldn't take it anymore or got the squeeze from Terry to make the change. I was a Dorsey supporter tbh.

[Bruffalo]

42 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

There’s a chance that Allen is the problem here. It’s hard to win conference championships, let alone Super Bowls, and that’s the expectation in Buffalo. What if that’s not in the cards for this guy. He’s playing terribly, and the picks he throws are what you’d see from bad quarterbacks. There’s a problem with JA17. Does he ever come back from bad plays during games? He’s a front runner. And when he’s down, he acts like someone took his coco crisp.

 

is this going to be 10 more years of coaches being responsible with the task of “fixing Josh Allen” for it only to never ever happen. He’s six years in, this isn’t looking great. 
 

He just does not seem like the type of team leader that holds guys accountable. Again, I think he cares more about being liked than doing what’s necessary. He didn’t lead anything great in college or in high school, so what experience does he has leading an NFL team? Pretty much none. 
 

I mean how bad does this get? McDermott gets fired. Then what?? What if Josh Allen is Jay Cutler… 

Are we just going to pretend that 2020,2021, and 2022 (injury not withstanding) Allen didn't exist?

 

These are some of the most braindead takes I've heard in my life. You know what you could get for trading Allen with the current contract he has? There are like 23-26 teams out there jealous of what we have in Allen and would drop their QB in a heartbeat for him. You could ask for anything and likely get it.

 

It's so absurd and disconnected from reality to come in and moan about the QB like the Bills have any trouble in that department at all. Allen is the most talented player the franchise has ever lucked into, and goofballs out here are pretending that Ken "I can't develop a route tree" Dorsey and Sean "I crumble quicker than anyone" McDermott are the real stars of the show. 

 

Give me a break.

Edited November 15, 2023 by Bruffalo

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Orlovsky tears into Dorsey.

(I’ll let you know when he exaggerates..)

 

https://x.com/erikjturner/status/1724498886155194650?s=61

Orlovsky for OC? 

[Green Lightning]

1 hour ago, Bruffalo said:

Again, you’re making a leap of logic. Comfortable isn’t the same as “afraid to reprimand” like the other poster was suggesting. 
 

 

Believe what you will 

[Thrivefourfive]

2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Are we just going to pretend that 2020,2021, and 2022 (injury not withstanding) Allen didn't exist?

 

These are some of the most braindead takes I've heard in my life. You know what you could get for trading Allen with the current contract he has? There are like 23-26 out there jealous of what we have in Allen and would drop their QB in a heartbeat for him. You could ask for anything and likely get it.

 

It's so absurd and disconnected from reality to come in and moan about the QB like the Bills have any trouble in that department at all. Allen is the most talented player the franchise has ever lucked into, and goofballs out here are pretending that Ken "I can't develop a route tree" Dorsey and Sean "I crumble faster than paper" McDermott are the real stars of the show. 

 

Give me a break.

And I disagree. Allen is playing like asshe looks like asshe is @$$. Hit the bricks pal.
 

I don’t care what he did in 2021 anymore. It was great when it was happening. So I should think he’s untouchable now, after this stretch? Allen has created the doubt, not me. And I’m a little concerned. 
 

I don’t know what to tell you. You’re obviously sure that Allen is great, and this year (and half of last) never happened. I liked 2020 Allen, to be honest. Quick decisions, quick release. Sorry, he’s pretty far from that now, and trending. Not good at all. 
 

I get it, he’s physically gifted. But I think OJ32 and BS78 were more talented at their positions than Allen is at this point in his career. Smith and OJ are all-timers, NFL wise. Allen isn’t. I might even put prime Thermal above Allen. Having a talent for the spectacular ✅ Having a talent for stupid interceptions and fumbles ✅

[Bruffalo]

1 minute ago, Thrivefourfive said:

And I disagree. Allen is playing like asshe looks like asshe is @$$. Hit the bricks pal.
 

I don’t care what he did in 2021 anymore. It was great when it was happening. So I should think he’s untouchable now, after this stretch? Allen has created the doubt, not me. And I’m a little concerned. 
 

I don’t know what to tell you. You’re obviously sure that Allen is great, and this year (and half of last) never happened. I liked 2020 Allen, to be honest. Quick decisions, quick release. Sorry, he’s pretty far from that now, and trending. Not good at all. 
 

I get it, he’s physically gifted. But I think OJ32 and BS78 were more talented at their positions than Allen is at this point in his career. Smith and OJ are all-timers, NFL wise. Allen isn’t. I might even put prime Thermal above Allen. Having a talent for the spectacular ✅ Having a talent for stupid interceptions and fumbles ✅

I'd suggest you don't watch the Bills anymore then.  Allen isn't going anywhere and on the verge of sounding rude I'm not sure you have a very strong grasp of the game anyways.

[Green Lightning]

1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

This is a small brain issue.  The Bills have the best OL under Allen.  Keep trying.

Do you watch the games? We can't make a yard on a vital 3rd and 1. We gave to throw from the shotgun.  Brown and Morse are pushed on top of JA half the time. Yes this is the best OL JA has had but it's far from good enough. Try again.

[CincyBillsFan]

31 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

There’s a problem with JA17. Does he ever come back from bad plays during games? He’s a front runner. And when he’s down, he acts like someone took his coco crisp.

 

 

This year alone Allen made some bad plays early against the Giants, NE and Denver.  And in all three games Allen rebounded to have very productive final stretches where he led the Bills to a win over the Giants and put the Bills in the lead with less then 2 minuets to play against NE & Denver.  So yes Allen has clearly demonstrated just in the last few weeks that he can "come back from bad plays during game's".  What's your next question?