Latavius Murray - fumbling

[dave mcbride]

Murray has had two fumbles on his last 866 touches. That’s at the very least — he had one fumble on 231 touches in 2017, and I’m too lazy to look up when it happened. Let’s just assume for a second that he has fumbled 2 times in his last 1,000 touches. That is INCREDIBLE: a 0.2 percent rate. And I have no idea if they were even lost fumbles. Suffice it to say, though, that he holds onto the ball. 
 

By way of extreme comparison, Joe Cribbs fumbled 28 times in his first two seasons on 655 touches - a 4.3 percent rate. More recently, Devin Singletary has fumbled 13 times on 861 touches (a 1.5 percent rate). 
 

Rushing plays are low yardage plays on average compared to passing plays, but one of the presumed benefits is a lower turnover rate. Murray brings that.

Edited October 19, 2023 by dave mcbride

[Brand J]

Thanks, now he’ll fumble this week.

[Warcodered]

[RiotAct]

7 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Thanks, now he’ll fumble this week.

Guaranteed.

[machine gun kelly]

9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Murray has had two fumbles on his last 866 touches. That’s at the very least — he had one fumble on 231 touches in 2017, and I’m too lazy to look up when it happened. Let’s just assume for a second that he has fumbled 2 times in his last 1,000 touches. That is INCREDIBLE: a 0.2 percent rate. And I have no idea if they were even lost fumbles. Suffice it to say, though, that he holds onto the ball. 
 

By way of extreme comparison, Joe Cribbs fumbled 28 times in his first two seasons on 655 touches - a 4.3 percent rate. More recently, Devin Singletary has fumbled 13 times on 861 touches (a 1.5 percent rate). 
 

Rushing plays are low yardage plays on average compared to passing plays, but one of the presumed benefits is a lower turnover rate. Murray brings that.

 

Way to go jinxing us Dave.  😂😭

[BillsFan2313]

[Punching Bag]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MurrLa00.htm

 

[Punching Bag]

Interestingly he got his Pro Bowl award on year he made the most fumbles.

 

[DJB]

Why are the the way that you are?

[Rubes]

If he fumbles this week you’re officially banned for a month.

 

[Bills fan since 87]

Dude.......Cut it out

[JerseyBills]

Murray is awesome 

Remember him stepping up in Denver last year, he has some Frank Gore in him. Could probably go another 3 seasons 

[Chandler#81]

8 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

Thanks, now he’ll fumble this week.

Indeed. The kiss of death!

[GunnerBill]

I have always thought he was an underrated back. Always falls forwards, can run tough yards, great pass protector and doesn't turn it over. 

 

I was lukewarm about the bills signing a 33 year old though. Wasn't sure he had much left in the tank. But he has been more than serviceable so far. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Thanks for disparaging my first football hero.  

[BuffaloTX]

I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches.

[Doc Brown]

Bills seemed to make a concerted effort to sign and draft players the last couple of years that rarely dropped or fumbled the football while moving on from players who did (Singletary, McKenzie).  Doesn't bode well for Gabe Davis re-signing here.

14 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said:

I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches.

Cook is far more explosive imo and still should receive the majority of the touches.  A 65/35 split or something like that would be fine with me.  He also rarely fumbles the football like Murray.  I just wish he was better in pass protection.

[Italian Bills]

15 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said:

I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches.

I think he and Cook would have to split their touches, Murrey inside north-sud while Cook all the outside. 
 

Hello Dorsey ?

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, BuffaloTX said:

I think Murray should be the starter and take majority of the touches.

Murray actually did draw the start last week against the Giants and ended up with the same amount of snaps that Cook did. Cook had more touches (14 to 12) and out gained Murray (71 yds to 45). In this case I feel like the numbers match the eye test. Cook has the higher ceiling. Murray can get us those tough yards. It's a nice formula to have. 

 

Cook has the ability to be a big play back. However he has struggled in pass protection. This is likely why Murray is seeing more time. And Murray seems to get more work at the goal line. They both have really nice roles on the offense. 

[Don Otreply]

11 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Murray has had two fumbles on his last 866 touches. That’s at the very least — he had one fumble on 231 touches in 2017, and I’m too lazy to look up when it happened. Let’s just assume for a second that he has fumbled 2 times in his last 1,000 touches. That is INCREDIBLE: a 0.2 percent rate. And I have no idea if they were even lost fumbles. Suffice it to say, though, that he holds onto the ball. 
 

By way of extreme comparison, Joe Cribbs fumbled 28 times in his first two seasons on 655 touches - a 4.3 percent rate. More recently, Devin Singletary has fumbled 13 times on 861 touches (a 1.5 percent rate). 
 

Rushing plays are low yardage plays on average compared to passing plays, but one of the presumed benefits is a lower turnover rate. Murray brings that.

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