Kaiir Elam is a liability any time he is on the field

[Charles Romes]

Bernard was running around like a chicken with his head cut off most of last year. That’s my primary source of hope for Elam. 

[Scott7975]

  On 10/9/2023 at 1:30 AM, PatsFanNH said:

It was his first game playing this year give him a break. If he continues looking bad next week with no improvement.. then worry.. mind you shocked the Bills didn’t go after JC JAckson.. pats got him for practically nothing. 

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I mean, his play is the same reason he was 3rd on the depth chart.  He is doing the same in practice.  It's not like this guy is just some UDFA or a depth chart signing. He was a first round pick.  Played last season in a few games, did a decent job, came back this season and stunk the joint up in camp, practice, and his first game.

[Awwufelloff]

Remember when Kansas City traded up to take mcduffie right in front of us and we traded up to get Elam for fear we wouldn’t get a db? Chiefs are always a step ahead of us. 

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[Brand J]

  On 10/9/2023 at 3:11 AM, Scott7975 said:

 

Yeah, I agree.  Elam was getting torched and having his ankles busted.  Slow to react to route changes.  I don't get it.  He played last season and stuck to people like glue.  He made mistakes sure, but he stuck to them like glue.  Today he was 5 yards off every time a receiver stop for a curl/comeback/whatever.

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Confidence. Does wonders for a player and he’s not playing with any. 

[BillsFan130]

 when Beane traded up to get Elam, I thought this guy was going to be a Tre White part 2.

 

Huge disappointment so far and the clock is ticking very fast

[QCity]

There were a lot of fans trying to convince themselves that losing Tre was no big deal. Sorry, but it was a big deal and there's a reason Elam was inactive the first 4 weeks.

 

[Coach Tuesday]

  On 10/8/2023 at 5:44 PM, HoofHearted said:

Don’t want to put him to the field - he’s gonna be asked to play a ton of zone coverage there. You always want your best man guy to the boundary. To me it looks like he doesn’t have a wholistic understanding of the defense. Multiple times we were in 2 man today and he jump inside leverage quick on the receiver stem and then gets beat outside. Like dude… you got help inside and over top so stay your butt outside and underneath…

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Yep and Hyde was in his ear repeatedly about it, all game.  Kid has not put in the study work and it showed yesterday.  Really disappointing.

[Donuts and Doritos]

That he got benched for a practice squad player late in this one tells me they're trading for a corner.

[VaMilBill]

  On 10/9/2023 at 10:02 AM, Donuts and Doritos said:

That he got benched for a practice squad player late in this one tells me they're trading for a corner.

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Gotta hope so. But tbh, I don’t think Beane will sacrifice future draft picks, at least not high round ones, for a great corner (like Surtain). If anything it will only be for some low level depth player who would be a serviceable starter, IMO

[North Buffalo]

  On 10/9/2023 at 5:42 AM, Coach Tuesday said:

Yep and Hyde was in his ear repeatedly about it, all game.  Kid has not put in the study work and it showed yesterday.  Really disappointing.

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Not sure but something is off... wonder if it is millenial gen y syndrome... so used to being handed everything that there first real adversity they fall apart... time to grow up Elam.

[Mr. WEO]

  On 10/8/2023 at 4:58 PM, Beast said:

I thought they picked on Jackson in the 1st half and Elam in the 2nd.

 

Regardless, we are hurting at Corner and Linebacker and our offense stunk up the United Kingdom. Our defense had only given up 11 through 3 quarters. They just ran out of gas late.

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The Defense could not get off the field.  Yeah the O stunk for much of the game---but they were sitting on the sidelines for 2/3 of it.  When they finally heated up in the 4th Q, the D gave up back to back TD drives. 

[Walking Tall]

  On 10/9/2023 at 11:47 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

The Defense could not get off the field.  Yeah the O stunk for much of the game---but they were sitting on the sidelines for 2/3 of it.  When they finally heated up in the 4th Q, the D gave up back to back TD drives. 

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The D was gassed. Did you see Epenesa on the sidelines sucking oxygen? 

[Royale with Cheese]

  On 10/9/2023 at 11:47 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

The Defense could not get off the field.  Yeah the O stunk for much of the game---but they were sitting on the sidelines for 2/3 of it.  When they finally heated up in the 4th Q, the D gave up back to back TD drives. 

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#93 Vickers who is a back up and practice squad DT with us was playing DE in the 4th quarter because we had nothing else.

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[Walking Tall]

At this point trade him straight up for a CB that is better suited to play zone. There has to be a team out there that would prefer a CB like Elam that can play man who can give up a guy that is a zone type player.

 

Beane needs to work the phones and find a GM he can deal with.

 

 

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[Not at the table Karlos]

  On 10/9/2023 at 12:48 AM, RiotAct said:

lost count of the number of times I screamed “TURN AROUND!!!” today.

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Was like watching Leodis all over again 

[BananaB]

  On 10/9/2023 at 11:57 AM, Beast said:

At this point trade him straight up for a CB that is better suited to play zone. There has to be a team out there that would prefer a CB like Elam that can play man who can give up a guy that is a zone type player.

 

Beane needs to work the phones and find a GM he can deal with.

 

 

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I expect Levi Wallace to be back. That’s a Beane move. Elam most likely just be deactivated, no team is trading for him. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

  On 10/9/2023 at 4:31 AM, BillsFan130 said:

 when Beane traded up to get Elam, I thought this guy was going to be a Tre White part 2.

 

Huge disappointment so far and the clock is ticking very fast

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I say trade him this week. I Don't care we blew a 1st that is in the past.  Elam right now is a 2 out of 10, trade for a CB that is at least a 5 in McDermott's  system and its improvement.

[Royale with Cheese]

It seems as if Ja'Marcus Ingram has moved ahead of Elam.  I think he was on the field late in the 4th.

[Spiderweb]

  On 10/8/2023 at 5:02 PM, Success said:

More of a mixed bag from him today.  He had some nice tackles and jams at the line. But his coverage wasn't good.

 

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It does appear that hes not comfortable or as effective in zone defense. Also, Jackson failed often as well. Play Elam to his strength - man.

 

[Mr. WEO]

  On 10/9/2023 at 11:48 AM, Beast said:

The D was gassed. Did you see Epenesa on the sidelines sucking oxygen? 

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well…they were gassed because they couldn’t get off the field.  Force a 3 and out.  They had a nice rest at halftime then they were on the field for 12 out 15 minutes in the 3rd Q…

  On 10/9/2023 at 11:54 AM, Royale with Cheese said:

#93 Vickers who is a back up and practice squad DT with us was playing DE in the 4th quarter because we had nothing else.

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I understand.  But this wasn’t an all works Offense they were facing