Random talking head says something about the Bills

[SCBills]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

you can't win with these talking heads

When Allen is Superman,   "they rely on him too much!"

 

When we play a balanced game   "Lamar is MVP"  

I mean.. he’s completely correct though. 
 

Mahomes wins with elite talents like Hill & Kelce.  When they moved Hill, he was able to win with an elite Defense. 
 

Lamar has an AFC Eagles roster around him the past few years.  They are loaded on Defense, have talent at TE/WR and have a RB that isn’t just elite.. he’s demoralizing and can single handedly control a game. 
 

Josh Allen has a good roster around him, but he’s very clearly relied upon FAR more than any of his peers… and he even elevates in the Playoffs, but so far… that still hasn’t been enough. 

[Nephilim17]

I literally just watched the Cowherd vid seconds before coming here and noted the LeBron comment. 

Josh doesn't have an A+ skill guy on O, but he's got a lot of B and maybe one or two B+ guys.

Let's see with better play calling and a healthy D how the team is after about 5 or 6 games. If Josh still needs to carry the team to victory, then Cowherd's point might be fair. But I suspect that team will be stronger and more balanced then.

[Royale with Cheese]

We will have another Amari Cooper type trade by midyear.  But for a Safety.

[Doc Brown]

I doubt we trade him to Miami to win Super Bowls and then he comes back and wins one here.

[strive_for_five_guy]

I mean, LeBron won a championship for Cleveland, so I’ll take it.

Edited September 8 by strive_for_five_guy

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

I literally just watched the Cowherd vid seconds before coming here and noted the LeBron comment. 

Josh doesn't have an A+ skill guy on O, but he's got a lot of B and maybe one or two B+ guys.

Let's see with better play calling and a healthy D how the team is after about 5 or 6 games. If Josh still needs to carry the team to victory, then Cowherd's point might be fair. But I suspect that team will be stronger and more balanced then.

I do believe this team has more of a ceiling than any of our recent iterations. 
 

I’ll acknowledge that.  
 

I just don’t know if i see anyone like Coleman, Kincaid, Sanders, Walker etc becoming a bucket getter by year end.  
 

The hope is probably that all those high ceiling guys add to the laundry list of A- and B+ guys around JA. 
 

Maybe Oliver/Bosa can give us that. 
 

Edited September 8 by SCBills

[JerseyBills]

Keon will go for 1200 and 8-12 TDs and establish himself as a legit WR1 , said it all off season..

11 targets, insane contested catch ability and fluid in space 

 

Cook is no bum either + our OL is elite, I agree with his point but you can say this about all the elite teams , Lamar just happens to have a generational RB but his running ability creates alot of those lanes 

Edited September 8 by JerseyBills

[Nephilim17]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I do believe this team has more of a ceiling than any of our recent iterations. 
 

I’ll acknowledge that.  
 

I just don’t know if i see anyone like Coleman, Kincaid, Sanders, Walker etc becoming a bucket getter by year end.  
 

The hope is probably that all those high ceiling guys add to the laundry list of A- and B+ guys around JA. 
 

Maybe Oliver/Bosa can give us that. 
 

I think that's the case. No game breaker in the skill positions (Coleman is not that) but a lot guys who can contribute and have some big games here and there.

When I rewatched highlights I saw a lot of good things from Bosa. If they can keep him on a pitch count I think he will be a big factor this year. Oliver looked great. When we get Hairson and Hoecht on D I think that unit can be dominant at times. 

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I mean.. he’s completely correct though. 
 

Mahomes wins with elite talents like Hill & Kelce.  When they moved Hill, he was able to win with an elite Defense. 
 

Lamar has an AFC Eagles roster around him the past few years.  They are loaded on Defense, have talent at TE/WR and have a RB that isn’t just elite.. he’s demoralizing and can single handedly control a game. 
 

Josh Allen has a good roster around him, but he’s very clearly relied upon FAR more than any of his peers… and he even elevates in the Playoffs, but so far… that still hasn’t been enough. 

 

When your D gives up an average of over 33 points in the last 5 elimination games in the playoffs, most in NFL history, there is a problem that needs to be fixed and it isn't with Allen.

[RoyBatty is alive]

18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

You really think coaches are geniuses for 56 minutes, then turn into blithering idiots in the final 4?  There's a lot of luck and breaks to being a genius.

Please dont put words in my mouth and no I dont think that.  Yes obviously thrre i a lot of luck involved, I am not going to state the obvious to cover every contingency.

 

But if Harbaugh was such a superior coach and his team wouldn't consistently fold in critical moments.  IMO Harbaugh as much as anyone blew that game to have such a classic meltdown.

[Rocky Landing]

On the Ravens' forum, they've gotten their pitchforks out, have lit the torches, and are calling for Harbough's head on a spike. Bills fans should be able to settle down a bit, and give McD, and the coaching staff their props. Allen was a superhero, sure, but that was a well-coached game against arguably the strongest roster in the conference.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

On the Ravens' forum, they've gotten their pitchforks out, have lit the torches, and are calling for Harbough's head on a spike. Bills fans should be able to settle down a bit, and give McD, and the coaching staff their props. Allen was a superhero, sure, but that was a well-coached game against arguably the strongest roster in the conference.

It should also be a reminder that the Ravens have a SB winning coach with decades of being a playoff mainstay and the Ravens fans react that way 

 

Just a reminder as we critique McDermott

[GoBills808]

46 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I hate how accurate this seems so far in his career here. 
 

 

cowherd good take as usual

[Mango]

36 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

We will have another Amari Cooper type trade by midyear.  But for a Safety.

 

I hope we do better than that. Coop had a good play or two, but was largely pretty silent. 20 catches, 297 yards, 2TD's in 8 games/4 starts. 

 

6 catches, 41 tards and no TD's in the playoffs. 

 

He wasn't worth a 3rd but it was worth a try I guess.

[Delete_Delete_Delete]

51 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

I literally just watched the Cowherd vid seconds before coming here and noted the LeBron comment. 

Josh doesn't have an A+ skill guy on O, but he's got a lot of B and maybe one or two B+ guys.

Let's see with better play calling and a healthy D how the team is after about 5 or 6 games. If Josh still needs to carry the team to victory, then Cowherd's point might be fair. But I suspect that team will be stronger and more balanced then.

I like Colin, but when has this actually been a problem for the Bills offense. They are consistently a top scoring team. And Jimbo Cook is atleast an A… if Keon and Kincaid start showing up like this every game, look out, suddenly this team is “loaded with weapons”…

 

Point is, to Cowherd, and the guys who got shredded by Beane on WGR after the draft complaining about WR. When you look at the offense, the production, game in, game out, scoreboard, and their takeaway is this team needs more offense?

 

Seriously? Josh doesn’t need anything offense. The difference between Josh and the success enjoyed by Mahomes and Hurts has NOTHING to do with skill players. It’s 110% on the other side of the ball. Josh has never enjoyed the type of elite playoff defense that those two get to fall back on to bail them out from time to time.

 

The Bills gave up 100 points in two weeks last year, opened up this season giving up a 40 burger, and they are 2-1 in those games. Offense isn’t an issue, at all.

[Nephilim17]

45 minutes ago, Delete_Delete_Delete said:

I like Colin, but when has this actually been a problem for the Bills offense. They are consistently a top scoring team. And Jimbo Cook is atleast an A… if Keon and Kincaid start showing up like this every game, look out, suddenly this team is “loaded with weapons”…

 

Point is, to Cowherd, and the guys who got shredded by Beane on WGR after the draft complaining about WR. When you look at the offense, the production, game in, game out, scoreboard, and their takeaway is this team needs more offense?

 

Seriously? Josh doesn’t need anything offense. The difference between Josh and the success enjoyed by Mahomes and Hurts has NOTHING to do with skill players. It’s 110% on the other side of the ball. Josh has never enjoyed the type of elite playoff defense that those two get to fall back on to bail them out from time to time.

 

The Bills gave up 100 points in two weeks last year, opened up this season giving up a 40 burger, and they are 2-1 in those games. Offense isn’t an issue, at all.

I mostly agree with you but for 3 quarters yesterday the Bills offense did not look good enough. Jerry Ostroski says that Brady was far too conservative for much of the game.

I think over the next handful of games the offense will find a more consistent rhythm. And hopefully when some injured and suspended D players come back the D will be a lot better too. We'll see...

Edited September 8 by Nephilim17

[Delete_Delete_Delete]

2 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

I mostly agree with you but for 3 quarters yesterday the Bills offense did not look good enough. Jerry Ostroski says that Brady was far too conservative for much of the game.

I think over the next handful of games the offense will find a more consistent rhythm. And hopefully when some injured and suspended D players come back the D will be a lot better too. We'll see...

Yeah, Brady falls into these lulls where he gets away from Josh and overcommits to the run, almost out of stubbornness it seems. For example, I feel there are instances in the past much like yesterday, I believe it was 2nd qtr, 2nd & 1, and he just tries to pound the rock and move the chains… why? It’s such a blown opportunity to attempt a big play and utilize play action. Especially if you believe in your team enough to go out there on 3rd & 1 and get that tough yard, then move the sticks if the big play didn’t pay off. It’s a wasted opportunity that you really can’t afford against an elite team.

 

I feel like it’s me nitpicking when most of the time the offense is successful, but if I did have any complaints about the offense I’d like to see Brady dial up more shots downfield on those 2nd & 3 or less yards. Between that and all the early passes dialed up short and behind the LOS, I agree with Ostroski, but that’s not a reflection of a lack of playmakers, bc when 17 started slinging it, the skill positions were doing their job, and then some (tipped ball TD). 
 

This is just purely speculation on my part, but I feel like Brady might be pressured to dial up more conservative stuff early in games bc of McDermotts emphasis on wanting to pound the rock and minimize mistakes, and then if that doesn’t work, plan B is kinda just let it rip.  Him going into these little conservative lulls where he overcommits to “McDermott ball” almost cost them against the Ravens last year, and I’d argue it did cost them against KC, especially in short yardage situations.  He’s still absolutely a top OC, and I think he’s probably been the best hire of Beane’s tenure...

His counterpart on defense however, that’s another story. Babich needs to be given the Ken Dorsey treatment, admit the mistake early in the season, and just give the defensive playcalling back to McDermott. There’s no reason he can’t be calling the defense if Andy Reid can still run his offense.

Edited September 8 by Delete_Delete_Delete

[Brand J]

Didn’t see this posted anywhere and I hope it gets back to Allen. My guess is Draymond hasn’t watched any Buffalo playoff games. Either that, or he’s been hit in the head by one too many balls.

[Success]

He is SUCH a buffoon.

 

He thinks he's some kind of clutch champ because he was along for the ride with truly great players.  We wouldn't know his name if he had been on an average team.

 

[Malazan]

Who is this guy? 

 

For what possible reason would give him any attention?!