JaCrispy Posted August 8, 2023 Author Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Magox said: Vivek's previously held views on masks. This was in July of 2020, when there was already plenty of available data that masks were not making any sort of a real impact. Here he is siding with Sanders for a national "Masks for all" plan. Here is Vivek deriding conservatives for opposing wearing masks. Here he is in 2022 still pushing masks and social distancing. The point is this, it's ok to have your positions to naturally evolve (even though there was plenty of evidence at the time to make a different determination), the issue is that there were a some people on the right that were fighting the fight in real time and taking heat for having at that time unpopular positions in the public who eventually were proven right. When the fight mattered, Vivek was on the side of mainstream thought. For me, that's an automatic disqualifier because it shows you who they are when the time counts. Interesting…definitely not a fan of the Soros comments, or that he was on a list of billionaires being praised by the WEF…🤔 Hopefully he will be asked about his mask stance in the debates… I certainly wouldn’t put it passed the global Establishment class to insert a double agent into the running in the Republican primary… After all, the WEF has bragged about getting their puppets elected into other countries…we shall see… EDIT: As I’ve had time to back and read his comments several more times, I noticed there isn’t much context, and that they could easily be misinterpreted… Case in point- Vivek never states that all Americans should be forced to wear masks…But instead, he suggests that the federal government should pay for masks for all Americans…He even says that it is “personal responsibility” instead of it being mandated…still would like to hear him clarify at the debates… Second, although I despise the Nazi, George Soros, Vivek is simply agreeing with him that the Chinese leader is dangerous to the free world… That being said, I always hold that it is of vital importance to always be skeptical of government and that’s what I try to do…👍 Edited August 9, 2023 by JaCrispy 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 9, 2023 Author Share Posted August 9, 2023 This guy was born with a gift…Don’t know if he will ever be president, but you could tell, at a young age, he was meant to do great things…👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Magox Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Pharma Bro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I can only pray that the other candidates don't do this. 😆 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Magox said: Dude just oozes charisma…so glad he’s running…he makes it so much more interesting…👍 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Magox said: Does Vivek have kids? Because to me, 8 years old = 2nd grade. I thought I heard here that talking about anything related to sex with a 2nd grader was per se "grooming." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Does Vivek have kids? Because to me, 8 years old = 2nd grade. I thought I heard here that talking about anything related to sex with a 2nd grader was per se "grooming." Yeah, apparently Jay thought it was a positive tweet from him lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 15, 2023 Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Magox said: Yeah, apparently Jay thought it was a positive tweet from him lol. Anything above kindergarten is a step in the right direction…don’t ya think? 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Anything above kindergarten is a step in the right direction…don’t ya think? 😉 Sounds like a campaign slogan to me … Eight is Enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Great interview. The last answer is the best. He would seek Trumps advice about reducing federal bureaucracy. His #1 domestic policy agenda is to reduce federal head count by 75%. An essential move if we hope to root out the marxists. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Not a serious person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Damn he called out black rock/vanguard. Hope he has good security https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1693342053030051990?t=7GEbQoYmFkOJCVDtQc-n6g&s=19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chris farley said: Damn he called out black rock/vanguard. Hope he has good security https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1693342053030051990?t=7GEbQoYmFkOJCVDtQc-n6g&s=19 Here's what he posted: BlackRock, State Street, & Vanguard represent arguably the most powerful cartel in human history: they’re the largest shareholders of nearly every major public company (even of each other) & they use *your* own money to foist ESG agendas onto corporate boards - voting for “racial equity audits” & “Scope 3 emissions caps” that don’t advance your best financial interests. This raises serious fiduciary, antitrust, and conflict-of-interest concerns. So far, a legitimate point. These companies are, of course, the biggest shareholders because they run the biggest mutual funds. But then this: As President I will cut off the real hand that guides the ESG movement - not the invisible hand of the free market, but the invisible fist of government itself. This simply doesn't follow. He says private companies are behind the ESG investing agenda, but then blames the "invisible fist of the government itself." It probably sounds good to the low information voters he is courting, but it is meaningless. What he seems to want is MORE government regulation of the markets, to be achieved through government control, imposing new fiduciary standards on private investment companies. Remember that the next time this vulture investor talks about "too much regulation." https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/23/vivek-ramaswamy-martin-shkreli-pharma-00098338 Edited August 21, 2023 by The Frankish Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) On 8/21/2023 at 2:54 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Here's what he posted: BlackRock, State Street, & Vanguard represent arguably the most powerful cartel in human history: they’re the largest shareholders of nearly every major public company (even of each other) & they use *your* own money to foist ESG agendas onto corporate boards - voting for “racial equity audits” & “Scope 3 emissions caps” that don’t advance your best financial interests. This raises serious fiduciary, antitrust, and conflict-of-interest concerns. So far, a legitimate point. These companies are, of course, the biggest shareholders because they run the biggest mutual funds. But then this: As President I will cut off the real hand that guides the ESG movement - not the invisible hand of the free market, but the invisible fist of government itself. This simply doesn't follow. He says private companies are behind the ESG investing agenda, but then blames the "invisible fist of the government itself." It probably sounds good to the low information voters he is courting, but it is meaningless. What he seems to want is MORE government regulation of the markets, to be achieved through government control, imposing new fiduciary standards on private investment companies. Remember that the next time this vulture investor talks about "too much regulation." https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/23/vivek-ramaswamy-martin-shkreli-pharma-00098338 None of those companies are private, they are publicly traded. You notice how much of the stimies went directly to Blackrock/Vanguard controlled companies? Same ones that also heavily support the left and the ESG, DEI movement. Its like a big circle. PACS get politicians elected, Politicians promote legislation and spending to Companies that PACS support. Companies fund the same PACS. maybe he is referencing removing tax exempt status from those groups (duel PAC/Charity) that rank and promote it. The duel "Political pac/charity" game is out of control. Edited August 23, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, Chris farley said: maybe he is referencing removing tax exempt status from those groups (duel PAC/Charity) that rank and promote it. Well, then say what you mean. As it stands, we have a member of the capitalist/investor class calling out his colleagues for doing something he doesn't like, and saying he'll put a stop to all of that. How? To whom? With what limitations? Like I said: sounds oh-so-good and tough to low information voters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, then say what you mean. As it stands, we have a member of the capitalist/investor class calling out his colleagues for doing something he doesn't like, and saying he'll put a stop to all of that. How? To whom? With what limitations? Like I said: sounds oh-so-good and tough to low information voters. I kind of did. removing Tax exempt status from Charities playing PAC could be a start. If you're going to be a PAC, be a PAC. With all its financial disclosure regs. shouldn't have charities pushing wedge issues while also being a partisan PAC. I am in the boat that publicly trades corporations should not be funding and promoting parties thought Charities and PACS. Cause we get what we have now, a government that's representative of those groups, vs us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy By Joe Cunningham https://redstate.com/joesquire/2023/08/24/so-why-is-everyone-piling-on-vivek-ramaswamy-n2162985 . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy By Joe Cunningham https://redstate.com/joesquire/2023/08/24/so-why-is-everyone-piling-on-vivek-ramaswamy-n2162985 . I like the instinctive "its from a conservative source, so I'll instinctively like it" response from another poster here. tl;dr "Overall, I don’t think he came out looking strong from it. He’s certainly overshadowed a lot of people, but he didn’t really prove himself to be a presidential candidate. Instead, he proved himself to be an annoying millennial on the stage who thinks he knows better than everybody else." Oops. I'm the one who should be liking the article. Get it right next time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I "Overall, I don’t think he came out looking strong from it. He’s certainly overshadowed a lot of people, but he didn’t really prove himself to be a presidential candidate. Instead, he proved himself to be an annoying millennial on the stage who thinks he knows better than everybody else." So Pete Buttigeig? Edited August 24, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: So Pete Buttigeig? Who is super professional, accomplished and presidential looking 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Funny, I hit "like" when I appreciate the posters effort to bring in something new to the conversation, Not that I "automatically" agree with everything in the post. Oh well, everyone knows Frank is black and white with his thinking. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: So if we get rid of environmental protections we can have record low unemployment? 🤣 Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, B-Man said: So what PAC is funding his run? and who is/what is funding that? https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-exceptionalism-institute/summary?id=D000073751 6 million war chest with no disclosure. So far American Exceptionalism PAC has spent $484,000 on ads, according to AdImpact. That's a fraction of the $92.9 million that GOP outside groups and candidates have spent on ads so far https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/-ramaswamy-super-pac-launches-new-ad-gop-debate-rcna101618 Edited August 24, 2023 by Chris farley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: So Pete Buttigeig? Yes, as far as getting traction as the golden boy of his party. But as far as being a serious candidate? More Rand Paul. New Wave Bomb Thrower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 2 hours ago, B-Man said: The Reason Everyone Is Piling on Vivek Ramaswamy By Joe Cunningham https://redstate.com/joesquire/2023/08/24/so-why-is-everyone-piling-on-vivek-ramaswamy-n2162985 . I agree with the writer, he IS annoying as ***** ... reminds me a lot of a boss I had many years ago, a smirky little weasel. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 For those interested in how he got rich https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-surprise-gop-debate-230639039.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 23 hours ago, Tiberius said: Who is super professional, accomplished and presidential looking Ya. Kind of like the 1968 Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 TRUTH. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 It just looks like they’re all scared shitless to say anything bad about Trump Therefore they’re all just last loser 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It just looks like they’re all scared shitless to say anything bad about Trump Therefore they’re all just last loser Unless some of them actually agree with Trump’s policies…👍 Edited August 26, 2023 by JaCrispy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Unless some of them actually agree with Trump’s policies…👍 Oh, I’m sure that they agree with a lot of us policies It’s just you can’t become president by being Trump light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 There is just too much to question. They’re also promoting him bc he’s there for Trump to take votes from DeSantis. Vivek (never attacked by Trump) will be Trump’s press secretary in an administration that’s never going to happen. Wish it weren’t the case….but I live I reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 I did not agree with everythng he said but he is a very strong debater/quick on his feet and makes his points very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Oh, I’m sure that they agree with a lot of us policies It’s just you can’t become president by being Trump light Agreed… it’s a little bit of a tight rope that the candidates have to traverse… But at the beginning of the campaign, I predicted that that the most optimal way forward for any Republican nominee would be the strategy that Vivek is currently employing- praising Trump for his accomplishments to satisfy MAGA, and then explain how you are best able to build on top of that, and take it even further… I just didn’t see any other way that had a chance of leading to success…👍 Edited August 26, 2023 by JaCrispy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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