Mikie2times Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Interestingly, for all his short comings, he had the best deep ball of any QB I have seen in a Bills uniform, which goes back to Kelly. Also was (until Josh) the best runner we ever had at QB. That was enough to do some things. But his ability to hit intermediate throws and make downfield reads was his demise. It felt like for about 20+ years until Josh we just didn’t have a guy that could hit a 15 yard dig or shallow post. Taylor is a good dude. I see him in a very positive light, but ranking him is probably somewhere around Trent Edwards or JP Losman area all things considered. Edited June 30, 2023 by Mikie2times 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Because the Bills were coming off a history of forcing backup caliber QBs into starter roles: 2-years of JP Losman 3-years of Trent Edwards 3-years of Ryan Fitzpatrick A desperate draft pick in EJ Manuel. So yes, Tyrod was better than those players, but 200 yards, 1 TD, 0 Interceptions is not good enough to really win games. Edited June 30, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 58 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: “Pure trash.” Proves the point of my thread and the hate he receives for no reason. No reason. - Divided the locker room. - Horrible on and off the field. - Pulled the race card instead of taking accountability. Yep. Trash. Garbage. Good riddance. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Capco said: Ironically, I was just thinking about this yesterday. Granted, the league wasn't as pass-friendly in the 80s and 90s as it is today, but Tyrod has a higher career passer rating (88.2) than Jim Kelly (84.4). His passer rating during his three years as a Bill was 92.5, and he only committed 21 turnovers (16 INTs, 5 lost fumbles). He almost broke the record for the highest single season passer rating by a Bills QB in his first year as a starter (99.6 vs Kelly's 101.2 in 1990), and I believe that season counts as the third-highest passer rating in team history (behind Kelly in 1990 and Allen in 2020). I'm surprised no one cracked a shot at this post from page 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: “Pure trash.” Proves the point of my thread and the hate he receives for no reason. Except not everyone “hates on” him though. In fact that’s probably a small minority of Bills fans. But there’s a lot of middle ground that you conveniently ignore between saying TT’s trash and you wondering aloud about his lack of adoration and him being one of the best dual threat QBs. He wasn’t. Never will be. He was a marginal starter with a plus running game and good deep ball. That’s it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I can think of one very obvious reason but people on here get mad when I say it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 He’s an exceptional athlete that plays entirely too conservatively. He could have been one of the better QBs in the league IF he would have made a throw with anticipation and not wait for everything to be perfect. He won’t. So he is what he is, a really good back-up with a very limited ceiling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Tryhard CLASSIC!! 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I always thought a crack-the-code way to win the Super Bowl would be to spend 90 percent on D including two franchise pass rushers. You have Tyrod not turn it over on the cheap. Then you bring in Chan to run his rub route playbook to manufacture 22 points a game without any talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Only credit I'll give him is bagging Draya Michele 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: I'm mostly upset he never mentioned we were mispronouncing his name for 3 years This is one of my favorites. That moron said his name was pronounced TuhROD. Then people posted videos of his family the night he was drafted, clearly calling him TYrod. Just another legend in his own feeble mind. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. The reason why he had a low turnover rate was that he would do the bare minimum to push the ball down the field! He was obviously more interested in his stats instead of winning games. Case in point... Josh Allen tied his Bills mark for 4th quarter comebacks in just 16 games started. It took Tyrod three full seasons just to get 5, and our 2018 team was one of the worst total offensive skill position teams in years. Tyrod didn't win a majority of those games... he played not to lose and it's why he didn't do much of anything after he left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Mynamemike said: I don’t ever see much hate for Tyrod. Good dude, decent qb who didn’t take risks but wouldn’t lose you games with boneheaded plays. He had the physical tools to be great imo but seemed hesitant to take risks to win games. Just my two cents. One of the better qbs we had during the drought He’d be the perfect backup QB for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: That's not true. It's a common narrative but it's not how he played. It's true he didn't take chances but he moved around behind the LOS quite a bit looking to make throws downfield. He was far too risk averse but he was not quick to leave the pocket. He had several designed runs per game. he didn’t have nearly the called runs Allen does. He wasn’t a good passer. He had a well earned rep as skittish pocket in the pocket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. I agree. Sort of. Tyrod was a good guy and he helped end the drought. I'm thankful. But he was a lackluster passer who would never take us far in the playoffs. Josh overshadows TT and makes him forgettable because Josh is such a better passer who brings the level of hope and excitement to a whole new level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 This thread is another symptom of the mindset "QB gets credited for everything," regardless of good or bad. To say "Tyrod got us to the playoffs" feels dirty. He will always have my thanks for contributing to that, but leading the league's 1st or 2nd worst passing offense for years doesn't quite feel worthy of crediting him for sneaking into the playoffs, especially when it ultimately came down to a crazy upset that even made it possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 If we were down by more then 2 points in the 4th quarter you could watch people heading to the exits. They knew it was over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 He should be more respected than Fitz, but Fitzy has way more personality. I have nothing but appreciation for Tyrod Taylor, a dude who gave us a few awesome years and played way above his talent level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He should be more respected than Fitz, but Fitzy has way more personality. I have nothing but appreciation for Tyrod Taylor, a dude who gave us a few awesome years and played way above his talent level. More respected than Fitzpatrick in what way, exactly? If anyone played above his talent level, it was Fitz. Taylor sucked at everything except … well, nothing. He sucked at everything. Fitz was a mediocre QB, and a stellar man on and off the field. Taylor doesn’t even belong in the same sentence as Fitz. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Because he was no where good enough to be “revered.” He was servicable. He did some things well. Other things, not so much. I mean, why isn’t Chris Kelsay revered? What are we even asking here? I can't be sure what we are asking but I'm damn sure you just NAILED IT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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