Mango Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is it worth losing $20MM+ in cap room? Because that's what'll happen if we move Diggs. Think before acting. We don’t lose $20M. We gain $1M this year, and it is about $3M to have him off the roster than it is to have him on. Of course $30M is a lot of cap space tied up in a guy not on the team. But $27M is also a lot for a guy who sounds like he might not want to be here. And the last two times he put on a jersey he caused a scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: The players voted him a captain … because they obviously thought he had good qualities tons of talented players ARENT captains devils advocate Well he's a high intensity guy and when he's initially getting along with everyone that can be confused with leadership. But with people of his temperament just plain old familiarity breeds contempt. The discord in Minnesota and subsequent relief being traded to Buffalo never made much sense either. But like Josh Allen says........."none of this works" without Diggs. It just doesn't. Their receiving corps is a joke without him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 This thread is perfect for letting me know we are in the no-news dead part of the football year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 49 minutes ago, Malazan said: Did you seriously use heavy.com as a source? I thought the same thing. However since Heavy are so terrible I went and listened to this Albright podcast they quoted - he definitely said what they quoted. Why some person at the Bills (anonymously, of course) would spill anything to a Broncos beat guy is beyond me though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 hours ago, SCBills said: Im sorry, but I don’t view Diggs as the make or break for a Super Bowl run. If that’s the case, then Allen isn’t elite. We can’t trade him for nothing, but if somehow circumvented the cap nightmare of trading Diggs and got back someone like Sutton or Jeudy, plus picks, I’m still expecting this offense to be elite. ….I’m expecting that because Allen is elite, and there would be enough talent (provided the OL is better) to accomplish that. I think you should at some point recognize that you tend to take emotional, stubborn, self destructive "I'm sorry but.." stances and try to reverse engineer a reason why you are right. It's not the early 2000's anymore with only a handful of high end QB talents. You aren't finishing with an "elite" offense in the NFL today without a single elite weapon around your QB. You even have "plus picks" in the same sentence as "I'm still expecting this offense to be elite"......like future draft capital will make them lighter on their feet in 2023. That makes as much actual sense as the guy yesterday who mentioned that re-signing Ed Oliver was a way that the Bills had made their defense FASTER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Straight up trade for Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, or Drake London. Madden trade simulator said in your dreams. 38 minutes ago, Mango said: We don’t lose $20M. We gain $1M this year, and it is about $3M to have him off the roster than it is to have him on. Of course $30M is a lot of cap space tied up in a guy not on the team. But $27M is also a lot for a guy who sounds like he might not want to be here. And the last two times he put on a jersey he caused a scene. It's never going to happen. You'd be throwing any Super Bowl chance out the window. Josh Allen would look like Aaron Rodgers of 2022 at best. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I think any player up to and including Josh Allen is open to being traded "under the right circumstances" those circumstances may be exceedingly unlikely, but they do exist. If someone walks in the door and blows Beane away with an offer for Diggs he'd be right to take it. That's not going to happen so this is all summer BS. I do chuck this at Ken Dorsey's doorstep though. Man management is part of the gig, not just calling plays and making the gameplan. Under Daboll we didn't hear so much as a peep from Diggs. One year under Dorsey and he's stomping out of locker rooms and missing stuff. The WR coach left after this year in a lateral move. That's odd. Was Chad Hall unhappy with Dorsey also and took a way out when it was offered? Maybe. Maybe not. What I know is the WR room is unnecessarily smoky at the moment so if there's fire it better get dealt with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He's going to disappear after the bye this season too??? Stefon Diggs keeps it up he will wear out his welcome in the Buffalo Bills locker room overtime. It has nothing to do with us Bills fan that Stefon Diggs can’t control his own emotions in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mango said: We don’t lose $20M. We gain $1M this year, and it is about $3M to have him off the roster than it is to have him on. Of course $30M is a lot of cap space tied up in a guy not on the team. But $27M is also a lot for a guy who sounds like he might not want to be here. And the last two times he put on a jersey he caused a scene. And who do you replace a top 5 WR with?? And please don't say Hopkins, we don't realistically have the resources to give him a multi year , close to top $ deal if this happened with Diggs Just embrace his greatness and will to win He's a 2× ALL PRO 3× pro bowler since arriving here He'll be at least a 2x SB champ by the time he leaves And that swap would be terrible regardless Diggs has 14 more games, 1,500 more yards and 12 more TDs since both got traded to young QBs in 2020 Edited June 23, 2023 by JerseyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: And who do you replace a top 5 WR with?? And please don't say Hopkins, we don't realistically have the resources to give him a multi year , close to top $ deal if this happened with Diggs Just embrace his greatness and will to win He's a 2× ALL PRO 3× pro bowler since arriving here He'll be at least a 2x SB champ by the time he leaves And that swap would be terrible regardless Diggs has 14 more games, 1,500 more yards and 12 more TDs since both got traded to young QBs in 2020 I don't think trading Diggs is a good idea but playing devil's advocate. You run the ball more and throw to your TEs and backs a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 hours ago, 90sBills said: This has been my take. A lot of people on here keep dogging on Davis as not being a “legitimate” #2. I argue that he’s fine. Coupled with Diggs that’s a great tandem. If Allen is who we think he is then that’s a dynamic duo. If they continue to fail and fans keep clamoring for more and more weapons then Allen isn’t as elite as most think he is. Having said all that taking Diggs away would crippling for the offense. He’s a true #1. Davis seems to be like Allen in that each offseason he works on something intensive with his private trainer. Last year Davis worked on physical abilities and hopefully on last offseason and upcoming until training camp he is working on something Bills need him to improve on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He's going to disappear after the bye this season too??? Or maybe he announces his retirement at halftime of a game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Limeaid said: Davis seems to be like Allen in that each offseason he works on something intensive with his private trainer. Last year Davis worked on physical abilities and hopefully on last offseason and upcoming until training camp he is working on something Bills need him to improve on. Like strengthening his ankle which was injured all last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I am an additional 29 million added to the cap if the bills trade Diggs. Unless I am missing something which is possible. That is not really possible but releasing him is if you spread the cap over two years. Cannot see that happening. If a trade were to materialize after this season the next thing people would be surprised about will be his trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I am an additional 29 million added to the cap if the bills trade Diggs. Unless I am missing something which is possible. That is not really possible but releasing him is if you spread the cap over two years. Cannot see that happening. If a trade were to materialize after this season the next thing people would be surprised about will be his trade value. There is no way they absorb this cap hit and still be competitive. Don’t care what others say that the cap is an illusion. Trade value is about the moment and other teams needs. Never say never the Bills could get a good package if they were wanting (and able) to trade him. Diggs is going nowhere. The Bills know it and the he knows it. Edited June 23, 2023 by davefan66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 apparently, Diggs has been watching a lot of this guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 11 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Obviously I can’t really speculate on the press that covers other teams, but if Buffalo is one of the best, then there must be an awful lot of terrible ones Wow. Some folks seriously underestimate the breadth and depth of media coverage of the Bills. There are not only many full or nearly full-time reporters/analysts, but most are very good in their field. I'd imagine the Bills content creation is unmatched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: The main thing that worries me about Diggs is that when things go wrong, or are challenging, his juvenile attitude will resurface. It’s too much of a headache to constantly appease the guy. The Bills knew what they were getting into when they made this trade. Perhaps they should’ve waited a bit on that substantial pay raise to a malcontent 30 year old receiver. “If those lies help you sleep better at night big dawg…” Was that about Allen? Or some other totally unrelated situation that just happens to fit at the present time? Be competitive, fine, but don’t be a distraction. In his 3 years I can't think of any instances besides this off season where Diggs juvenile attitude came out. Just think he wants to win badly and know we have the potential and got fed up. I love that fire he has Would have liked to see him get 16 -20 targets if our O is stagnant like it was that day. Alot of his targets being incomplete was on Allen Edited June 23, 2023 by JerseyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Prospector said: This thread is perfect for letting me know we are in the no-news dead part of the football year. Exactly. It is a great story to create when there is no news because the wording alone creates the story. EVERYONE can be traded for the right circumstances. If Kansas City could cobble together a couple of extra first round picks for next year's draft and were to offer us Patrick Mahomes, those 3 first round picks plus their first rounder for the next five years, would we take that for Josh Allen? I would think so. So, Josh Allen is available for trade given the right circumstances. I once heard a former GM being asked about a similar story and he said any decent GM is always willing to listen to offers for ANY player. It would just take an awful lot (more than would be practical) for some players...but, any reporter can claim that they are willing to listen to offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 17 hours ago, BillnutinHouston said: Interesting take. What Bills-related stories do you recall the local press corps breaking before national outlets? This is not "breaking" news, it's reporting on comments that may be second or third-hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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