newcam2012 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I keep coming back to the idea that there’s more to the story. Going back to November, there’s a poster here who said something to the effect that Allen received some unwelcome news during the bye. Then we get kind of an absent Allen against the Jets and Vikings, the Dorsey growing pains, and we end up sleepwalking through the post-Damar part of the season. Then, of course, we have the flatline Cinci loss, the Diggs outburst, and the resultant rumors about certain goings on at the Allen homestead involving law enforcement. I can’t help but wonder if the Diggs sideline reaction against Cinci was a culmination of frustration with 13 seconds, Daboll leaving, Allen’s head in a different planet mid-season, and then the distraction before the Cinci game. Maybe Diggs has a point about the need for focus. And maybe he’s right. I think it's pretty simple. Diggs wants to win. The Bills aren't winning enough. Diggs is unhappy. Diggs doesn't think the Bills can we a SB with Dorsey and or McD. So Diggs is voicing his displeasure. Diggs is going to be a problem... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Airseven said: McDermott was the right coach to repair the locker room and national perception. He’s a good man who crafted a respected competitor. But he’s not a tactician and comes up short in alarming fashion against elite teams when it counts. He has served his purpose. I hope Pegula accepts this before Allen turns 30. Changing coaches every 2/3 years is what caused the drought for both the Bills and Sabres. I'll take my chances sticking with McBeane. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, NickelCity said: It's only a soap opera for weirdos like us. This is a headline-only story for a couple days in June to most football fans. Not if it drags on it won't be. The Madden curse is already starting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, Jrb1979 said: Not if it drags on it won't be. The Madden curse is already starting Curses aren’t real 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just my opinion, but this is A. A non-story, B - Something to "rally the troops" during the off-season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: And? We can’t hire Andy Reid. Payton and Reich were upgrades or at the very least a needed change. Creative offensive minded coaches that the Bills lack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: this tweet tells me him showing up was strictly contractual, since the agent is all about McDermott's statement making it seem diggs didn't report How this is being handled it could get very ugly very fast His agent is keeping him from getting fined. The bigger issue is why isn't he participating if he passed his physical. Point blank Diggs was the only guy not involved. As a head coach having one of you top guys holding in would be concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, Doc said: Diggs showed up and left. Keeping it behind closed doors wasn't an option anymore. Saying he was would have been a lie. No one knew that he showed up and left until diggs' agent said he was there. So how is omitting the truth not the same as lying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Changing coaches every 2/3 years is what caused the drought for both the Bills and Sabres. I'll take my chances sticking with McBeane. Be careful what you ask for. I think the writing is on the wall. I highly doubt McD can lead this team to a SB appearence. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Not if it drags on it won't be. The Madden curse is already starting Only one thing we can do.... 4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Be careful what you ask for. I think the writing is on the wall. I highly doubt McD can lead this team to a SB appearence. Way to go out on a limb. So if the Bills can't win a Super Bowl you're right. Of course you can't explain HOW to get there, but you're a whiz at knowing when it ain't happening. I can guarantee how to never win a Super Bowl...giving up. Edited June 13, 2023 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 23 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I keep coming back to the idea that there’s more to the story. Going back to November, there’s a poster here who said something to the effect that Allen received some unwelcome news during the bye. Then we get kind of an absent Allen against the Jets and Vikings, the Dorsey growing pains, and we end up sleepwalking through the post-Damar part of the season. Then, of course, we have the flatline Cinci loss, the Diggs outburst, and the resultant rumors about certain goings on at the Allen homestead involving law enforcement. What unwelcome news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 They need to figure this out. People are acting like Diggs is disposable, while this team becomes very average without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Would have been nice if this had been vetted and worked out in the months between the end of the season and the start of mini camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 This is the most logical reason for everything going on today 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jahnyc said: Would have been nice if this had been vetted and worked out in the months between the end of the season and the start of mini camp. Yeah, it's a bit of a puzzle what's going on. Just various breadcrumbs being dropped: It sounds as though there was communication between Diggs/his agent and the Bills, and whatever the issue was, Bakari thought there was agreement, at least in principle - but evidently McDermott did not If McDermott was somehow trying to hold a line or send a message, Josh didn't seem to get the memo: Edited June 13, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: People are laying all the blame on Diggs in this thread. I'm just saying that McD made matters worse. Allen could have done the same thing I suppose and just said it's internal and only take questions about the practice. But he didn't. McD sideswiped the questions. RIght or wrong from a PR standpoint, I don't know. Just felt like Allen was left out there to answer for himself, the coaching staff and the organization. That's fair as he is a franchise QB but it's McD's job first and foremost. I'm usually critical of the Buffalo media, but kudos to them for asking follow-up questions to Josh. They were probing but respectful of his relationship with Diggs. Yes it is just OTA's but let's be honest its a big story. It may not be in the end a big deal but it's a big story that was brewing ever since that sideline argument. On the other side you have a player who hasnt spoken or been in the building since January. Wanting answers and wanting changes. Where was this for the the last 6 months. Whatever Diggs and the team are working through shoukd have been here working through it. Mcdermott is backing his coaches publicly. Diggs didn't attend practice. The media would have known this as well. Only person who can speak about his feelings and intentions is Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Payton and Reich were upgrades or at the very least a needed change. Creative offensive minded coaches that the Bills lack. Payton won once with a Hall Of Fame QB then nothing. Reich? Geez. He’s not a 1 and done playoff coach. He wins playoff games. There literally no argument to fire him. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 hours ago, ScottLaw said: This is classic TBD… translation: “I hate this news, mods can you please shut this threat down so I don’t have to see it.” 59 pages of posters expressing concern and you had to pick one of the very few posts that want the discussion squelched? And then your "the WR group sucks" schtick in thread after thread. You really are something else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Trade him to Cowboys for Lamb 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Only one thing we can do.... Way to go out on a limb. So if the Bills can't win a Super Bowl you're right. Of course you can't explain HOW to get there, but you're a whiz at knowing when it ain't happening. I can guarantee how to never win a Super Bowl...giving up. It's not about going out on a limb. I can careless if I'm wrong or right. Often, I want to be wrong because of my pessimism. I've been plenty wrong here and have no qualms about admitting it. As a fan, I don't get paid to figure out how a team gets there. That's beyond my pay grade. I will say when a team lands their franchise QB their chances to get to the SB go up dramatically. I will say having a strong Oline is another important piece. As a fan, I can absolutely be critical of why I think the team has fallen short. Imho, coaching is an issue. I've watched McD basically get outcoached, out schemed, out manuerved, and out prepared the last two seasons of playoff appearences. I don't need to see more. Perhaps that's too judgmental. Too quick of a judgement. I get that. I have no problems with others disagreeing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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