Warriorspikes51 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 2 QB 4 RB 1 FB 3 TE 7 WR 10 OL 5 DT 5 DE (Von PUP) 5 LB 6 CB 4 S 1 K 1 P 1 LS Edited May 1, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: His entire football career he played RG... MAYBE he can play LG, but you have no clue if he could or could not. Heck I doubt even buffalo knows that answer yet. To your bolded I agree. At the least... we have competition at LG. At the Least (if morse stays healthy) I think we have reached top 15 line as a whole. No gloom and doom here I agree with most of your other points. well said. That's actually not true. Torrence started out at LG. Started 13 games as a freshman at LG. Switched to RG. Now, he may be better suited for RG..but he does have the experience at LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Can we stop using Pro Bowl as a way to quantify a player being good? Making a Pro Bowl is meaningless these days and has been for a while. Tyler Huntley was a "Pro Bowl" QB last year. Mac Jones was the year before that. Saffold "made the Pro Bowl" last year the same way Huntley and Jones did as well. Injury replacement. Now this isn't to say at one point Saffold wasn't a very good player. He was. Just wasn't that dude last year. Easy to see if McGovern can play even average it's an improvement. Likewise, even if he flops Torrence may be able to free up Bates to slide in there or perhaps even Edwards regains his form from his time with Kromer and plays the spot. Unlike what MANY complain about at RT...Buffalo has options at both G spots that are possible and even likely improvements Possible...even likely. But not a fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: How so? We have Bates and McGovern penciled in currently Saffold was possibly the worst guard in the league last year. If we can get league average performance from his vacated spot, that would be a huge improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Can we stop using Pro Bowl as a way to quantify a player being good? Making a Pro Bowl is meaningless these days and has been for a while. Tyler Huntley was a "Pro Bowl" QB last year. Mac Jones was the year before that. Saffold "made the Pro Bowl" last year the same way Huntley and Jones did as well. Injury replacement. Now this isn't to say at one point Saffold wasn't a very good player. He was. Just wasn't that dude last year. Easy to see if McGovern can play even average it's an improvement. Likewise, even if he flops Torrence may be able to free up Bates to slide in there or perhaps even Edwards regains his form from his time with Kromer and plays the spot. Unlike what MANY complain about at RT...Buffalo has options at both G spots that are possible and even likely improvements Yeah when you make the Pro Bowl but your team that desperately needs IOL consistency doesn't sign you back that says a lot more about how you played. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, KDIGGZ said: Possible...even likely. But not a fact True. However the stances you are taking are not fact as well, though you seem to be trying to present them as such. The position is very much in a wait and see...on both ends of the conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 4 dudes splitting 430 carries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Saffold has the body of work. Maybe he's declining or maybe he will sign with the Jets and run us over twice a year. It's weird to assume McGovern, who was not a full time starter and was not re-signed by his previous team, is definitely without question better than a multi time pro bowl guard. He might me, fingers crossed. We don't know Is it also your assertion that Saffold was a better guard than Bates was last year, simply because he has the better body of work over his career? And named to pro bowls? I want you to see the ridiculousness of your argument. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: You have him starting over Bates? Let the kid get on the field before you say his is better than what we have. Bills traded up for Ford a few years back and everyone here loved that pick too By your logic then, no draft pick improves the team. We have to first see if they are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: That's actually not true. Torrence started out at LG. Started 13 games as a freshman at LG. Switched to RG. Now, he may be better suited for RG..but he does have the experience at LG. Please play him at RG LT - Dawkins Doyle LG - McGovern Broeker C - Morse Bates RG - O'Cyrus Edwards RT - Brown Gouraige Boettger could have late round pick trade value Edited May 1, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, I'm Spartacus said: Is Taiwan history now? Joe B got their back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Please play him at RG LT - Dawkins Doyle LG - McGovern Bates C - Morse (Bates) RG - O'Cyrus Edwards RT - _________ Brown They'll probably rotate them around in training camp until they get the best fit, and also so they can fill in at the other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: That's actually not true. Torrence started out at LG. Started 13 games as a freshman at LG. Switched to RG. Now, he may be better suited for RG..but he does have the experience at LG. JR. Class Snaps by Alignment Position---2022-----2021 ----2020 LT---------0----------0---------0 LG---------0----------0---------0 C----------0-----------0--------0 RG---------697------761------699 RT---------0---------46--------0 ---------fresh-------soft--------JR Per PFF. I do not know where you are getting your info from Edited May 1, 2023 by PrimeTime101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: True. However the stances you are taking are not fact as well, though you seem to be trying to present them as such. The position is very much in a wait and see...on both ends of the conversation. Not presenting it as fact. I said I don't think we are better, which is my well formed opinion, and everyone is saying I'm wrong because we drafted a backup RG and signed a backup LG to start for us in place of a guy who is well regarded by the league but had a down year. I don't see our OL as being vastly improved. I think they are trying some new pieces and we'll see. RB is definitely improved imo. Motor was a shifty change of pace guy. I never saw him as an every down type back. It was evident when we needed 1 yard and everyone knew we were running. We didn't have an answer for those types of plays and ended up running with Josh a lot of the time. Now hopefully we have some guys that can get the tough yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I can’t seem them having Hines, Harris, Cook and Murray all active game day Injury insurance. But, agreed, those 4 can't all be active on game day. Hines is the only special teamer of the bunch too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Just heard on WGR. Gotta be $1.7M given before 4 PM. 760 yards, 6 TDs, 4.4 ypc last year. Tough not to like this signing. Probably Official at 4pm when transactions are processed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Welcome Duke Johnson 2.0- It is the same type of safety valve if RBs get injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Saffold has the body of work. Maybe he's declining or maybe he will sign with the Jets and run us over twice a year. It's weird to assume McGovern, who was not a full time starter and was not re-signed by his previous team, is definitely without question better than a multi time pro bowl guard. He might me, fingers crossed. We don't know You're not saying you don't know if McGovern is a huge improvement in pass protection from the LG spot, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Welcome Duke Johnson 2.0- That’s Latavius “Duke” Murray to you… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I've always liked Murray, if Harris goes down with an injury he can step in especially goaline and short yardage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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