Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: WHY??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I'd rather take a shot on someone with potential upside over a known quantity that was a net negative last season. I'm not calling you out but how do you know he was a net negative? We all remember the Jefferson play but does that define his entire season? I was mad at him too but I wouldn't think he would be one of our first resigns if he was terrible in every way last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: We all remember the Jefferson play but does that define his entire season? I can't speak to the coaches' mindset but for me personally, yes that defines his entire season as a depth player who needs to make the most of their opportunities to remain in the NFL. He may have had productive "do your job" type downs throughout the season but that wouldn't outweigh essentially losing the game because of a selfish glory-type mistake, or the horrific ST penalty he caused a few weeks later. Ultimately, you're right, it means very little because hopefully he never sees the field again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He’s made the roster on better teams. I mean its the first day and i think the roster will look different. Im not excited, also not upset. Its fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: WHY??? Depth interesting they announced him as a CB and not a S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm not calling you out but how do you know he was a net negative? We all remember the Jefferson play but does that define his entire season? I was mad at him too but I wouldn't think he would be one of our first resigns if he was terrible in every way last year. IDK, the Bills signed Star Ukelele to an enormous contract to do basically nothing. Same for the fat WR, can't remember his name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 It's all relative. If the Bills sign Vontae Davis, the Lewis signing will be viewed as a wise move. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: IDK, the Bills signed Star Ukelele to an enormous contract to do basically nothing. Same for the fat WR, can't remember his name Kelvin Benjamin! How can you forget? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Gunsgoodtime said: Kelvin Benjamin! How can you forget? Lol i'm old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: i'm old? Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: IDK, the Bills signed Star Ukelele to an enormous contract to do basically nothing. Same for the fat WR, can't remember his name Star wasn't great but he wasn't absolutely terrible. We have seen the turnover on the DL, McDermott isn't afraid to get rid of anyone or sitting anyone who is a non-contributor. How much money and how many years did we re-sign Kelvin Benjamin for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Star wasn't great but he wasn't absolutely terrible. We have seen the turnover on the DL, McDermott isn't afraid to get rid of anyone or sitting anyone who is a non-contributor. How much money and how many years did we re-sign Kelvin Benjamin for? I should clarify they saw enough to bring him in muh bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: I can't speak to the coaches' mindset but for me personally, yes that defines his entire season as a depth player who needs to make the most of their opportunities to remain in the NFL. He may have had productive "do your job" type downs throughout the season but that wouldn't outweigh essentially losing the game because of a selfish glory-type mistake, or the horrific ST penalty he caused a few weeks later. Ultimately, you're right, it means very little because hopefully he never sees the field again. This administration hates to cut their losses. Jimmy Johnson would've cut him after that Vikings game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm not calling you out but how do you know he was a net negative? We all remember the Jefferson play but does that define his entire season? I was mad at him too but I wouldn't think he would be one of our first resigns if he was terrible in every way last year. He’s one of the better back end roster guys in the NFL versatile , special teams , team guy… he’s one of the better 49-53 guys in the league all those guys are depth , st guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: How much money and how many years did we re-sign Kelvin Benjamin for? Couldn't have been too much. He was filching extra from the Giants' training table after he went there. Lunch Monitor Gettleman put a stop to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I should clarify they saw enough to bring him in muh bad Yep. Muy bad for them as well? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25472529/kelvin-benjamin-signing-kansas-city-chiefs Kelvin Benjamin, cut by Bills on Tuesday, signs with Chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yep. Muy bad for them as well? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25472529/kelvin-benjamin-signing-kansas-city-chiefs Kelvin Benjamin, cut by Bills on Tuesday, signs with Chiefs Hey, someone always wants your used Kia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Hey, someone always wants your used Kia Not if it doesn't work at all. WTF were the Chiefs thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Not if it doesn't work at all. WTF were the Chiefs thinking? idk lol guess Reid's not infallible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: idk lol guess Reid's not infallible I thought it was well known since it took him 20 years to win a Super Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Wake me up when Beane makes a difference making FA signing. I’m losing my patience with this obsession with cheap useless players. This is a crucial offseason for us. He has failed since the Josh draft and Diggs trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, WMDman said: even as a UB alum i hate this Don't worry, they will draft two cbs this year at some point anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 14 hours ago, MAJBobby said: This is why Beane will always be looking up chasing the Chiefs, it's these kinds of stupid signings that do not improve the team. Even far worse was resigning Tyler Matakevich, we waste 2 million in cap space for a 31 year old high motor/no talent special teams guy that will never play a down of regular defence. Does anyone remember any amazing special teams play this guy has made in 3 previous years. Only money you spend on special teams is for your kicker/punter and long snapper. Stunning that Tyler will be making more money than our punter/kicker and long snapper along with having a 2.5 dead money count against the cap should the Bills decide to cut him. Do the Bills already know that some undrafted rookie will not outshine him in camp? How about signing some younger guy with better athletic talent that has potential to give you some plays on defence. Maybe go check out the Chiefs cap sheet and see how many impactful players will be making less than the great Matekevich , you can start with Isaih Pacheco at half that amount or Toney at the same amount. Matakevich resigning has Sean's hands written all over it, the undersized high motor/high character guy who takes up a roster spot every Sunday. With all the injuries we had last season, you would think they would want more positional depth. As for Lewis, the two plays I would prefer to forget was costing us the Vikings game which would have won us home field and maybe we would be playing Jaguars and not Cincy who the Bills do not match up well against. Either way these are both two stupid signings, I would rather have 2 younger undrafted free agents with better athletic talent then these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: This is why Beane will always be looking up chasing the Chiefs, it's these kinds of stupid signings that do not improve the team. Even far worse was resigning Tyler Matakevich, we waste 2 million in cap space for a 31 year old high motor/no talent special teams guy that will never play a down of regular defence. Does anyone remember any amazing special teams play this guy has made in 3 previous years. Only money you spend on special teams is for your kicker/punter and long snapper. Stunning that Tyler will be making more money than our punter/kicker and long snapper along with having a 2.5 dead money count against the cap should the Bills decide to cut him. Do the Bills already know that some undrafted rookie will not outshine him in camp? How about signing some younger guy with better athletic talent that has potential to give you some plays on defence. Maybe go check out the Chiefs cap sheet and see how many impactful players will be making less than the great Matekevich , you can start with Isaih Pacheco at half that amount or Toney at the same amount. Matakevich resigning has Sean's hands written all over it, the undersized high motor/high character guy who takes up a roster spot every Sunday. With all the injuries we had last season, you would think they would want more positional depth. As for Lewis, the two plays I would prefer to forget was costing us the Vikings game which would have won us home field and maybe we would be playing Jaguars and not Cincy who the Bills do not match up well against. Either way these are both two stupid signings, I would rather have 2 younger undrafted free agents with better athletic talent then these two. Comparing Rookie contracts to long term vets again I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Comparing Rookie contracts to long term vets again I see. You don't understand cap issues do you? That is the kind of money you use to sign vets on prove me deals, 2 million cap space on a specials teams dude is waste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: You don't understand cap issues do you? That is the kind of money you use to sign vets on prove me deals, 2 million cap space on a specials teams dude is waste OOO I do. Clearly. and 2M cap hit isnt nothing in the grand scheme of things. Specially for your core ST player and Captain. Next time try not to compare rookie deals to long term vet contracts 'kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: OOO I do. Clearly. and 2M cap hit isnt nothing in the grand scheme of things. Specially for your core ST player and Captain. Next time try not to compare rookie deals to long term vet contracts 'kay You know zilch if you think paying this guy 2mllion is a good move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, Niagara Dude said: You know zilch if you think paying this guy 2mllion is a good move You are the one comparing rookie deals to long term vets. Move along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: You are the one comparing rookie deals to long term vets. Move along I have no problem with vets that can do something, you seem top believe he can and I don't agree. BYE BYE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: I have no problem with vets that can do something, you seem top believe he can and I don't agree. BYE BYE Sorry you want to ignore 1/3rd of a Football team. Next time dont gaslight and try to cherry pick some rookie deals to compare to a long term vet. it is tiring and old from you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Sorry you want to ignore 1/3rd of a Football team. Next time dont gaslight and try to cherry pick some rookie deals to compare to a long term vet. it is tiring and old from you, Dude go bother someone else, you and I do not agree and your twisting my words about signing vets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 18 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I hate with all the injuries how much time he sees the field on defense that they are okay with not getting better here. Kind of just same old bull#### 3 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: This is why Beane will always be looking up chasing the Chiefs, it's these kinds of stupid signings that do not improve the team. Even far worse was resigning Tyler Matakevich, we waste 2 million in cap space for a 31 year old high motor/no talent special teams guy that will never play a down of regular defence. Does anyone remember any amazing special teams play this guy has made in 3 previous years. Only money you spend on special teams is for your kicker/punter and long snapper. Stunning that Tyler will be making more money than our punter/kicker and long snapper along with having a 2.5 dead money count against the cap should the Bills decide to cut him. Do the Bills already know that some undrafted rookie will not outshine him in camp? How about signing some younger guy with better athletic talent that has potential to give you some plays on defence. Maybe go check out the Chiefs cap sheet and see how many impactful players will be making less than the great Matekevich , you can start with Isaih Pacheco at half that amount or Toney at the same amount. Matakevich resigning has Sean's hands written all over it, the undersized high motor/high character guy who takes up a roster spot every Sunday. With all the injuries we had last season, you would think they would want more positional depth. As for Lewis, the two plays I would prefer to forget was costing us the Vikings game which would have won us home field and maybe we would be playing Jaguars and not Cincy who the Bills do not match up well against. Either way these are both two stupid signings, I would rather have 2 younger undrafted free agents with better athletic talent then these two. Lol was he a wrestler and a church man? Cam Lewis saw the field too much on defense for this to be okay as well. I’d have been happy letting em all go and keeping edmunds. His best years are ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 He sucks. Hopefully he gets cut in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I didn’t love this signing… my guess is that they are giving him a second look based on his special teams skills but I don’t think he’s a lock to make the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 20 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Kelvin Benjamin! How can you forget? Lol some thing we need to push out of our minds cuz they make us very sad .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 53 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: some thing we need to push out of our minds cuz they make us very sad .... Kelvin Benjamin = Popeyes biscuits = now I'm hungry. 🤔🤨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Can we close this thread please? Every time I see the thread title, I throw up in my mouth. It’s kinda gross. He’s on the team. We know this. There really isn’t anything to discuss regarding Cam Lewis. We all hope he never has to play another down for the Bills. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 This FA has started out really rough, with almost each signing giving me less and less confidence in the upcoming year. I'm not as excited as most signing a backup lineman for another team to 8m per year contract to protect Josh Allen either. It feels like the same BS they been doing on the line and on special teams since they got here. Edmunds loss hurts too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: This FA has started out really rough, with almost each signing giving me less and less confidence in the upcoming year. I'm not as excited as most signing a backup lineman for another team to 8m per year contract to protect Josh Allen either. It feels like the same BS they been doing on the line and on special teams since they got here. Edmunds loss hurts too Really rough would’ve included not signing one of the better guards on the market to a fair contract. we haven’t made any bad signings of significancez. Matakavich and Cam Lewis don’t get paid enough to be considering bad. WR is a focus, but it’s a terrible WR market and the dominos haven’t begun to fall yet. We’ll get someone. we just haven’t made a splash - in an offseason in which we started 20M OVER the cap. Losing edmunds was a lock in my eyes- as was losing Poyer. Doubtful, but there’s still a chance he returns. I don’t think this has been a bad start- many fans are just losing their minds because Miami got Ramsey and the jets are gonna get Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 hours ago, NewEra said: Can we close this thread please? Every time I see the thread title, I throw up in my mouth. It’s kinda gross. He’s on the team. We know this. There really isn’t anything to discuss regarding Cam Lewis. We all hope he never has to play another down for the Bills. Oh but he will the depth chart will ensure of it 🤣🤦🏻♂️ 5 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: some thing we need to push out of our minds cuz they make us very sad .... Lol I always forget that we had Benjamin, ughh he was a disaster. One I was excited about when I first read about it as well. Boy did he disappoint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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