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14 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

This story is nuts.  And its looking like it went through alaska and Canada to get to Montana.  

 

 

You can't control the navigation of these things once they're launched.

They travel with the wind.

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29 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

You can't control the navigation of these things once they're launched.

They travel with the wind.

 

Um, from CNN:

 

“An advantage of balloons is that they can be steered using onboard computers to take advantage of winds and they can go up and down to a limited degree. This means they can loiter to a limited extent.

“A satellite can’t loiter and so many are needed to criss-cross an area of interest to maintain surveillance,” he said.

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Between November 1944 and April 1945, the Japanese launched about 9,300 balloons from sites on Honshu, of which about 300 were found or observed in the U.S., with some in Canada and Mexico.[1] The balloons traveled on high-altitude and high-speed currents over the Pacific Ocean, today known as the jet stream, and used a sophisticated ballast system to control altitude on their three-day flight. Despite high hopes for the operation, the bombs were largely ineffective due to damp conditions and malfunctions, causing only minor damage and six deaths (from a single civilian incident in Oregon in May 1945). The Fu-Go balloon bomb was the first weapon to possess intercontinental range, with its flights being the longest-ranged attacks in the history of warfare at the time.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Go_balloon_bomb

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22 minutes ago, OrangeBills said:

 

Um, from CNN:

 

“An advantage of balloons is that they can be steered using onboard computers to take advantage of winds and they can go up and down to a limited degree. This means they can loiter to a limited extent.

“A satellite can’t loiter and so many are needed to criss-cross an area of interest to maintain surveillance,” he said.

 

An extremely limited extent, and the minute the US got concerned about their loitering or intel capability they would be dealt with.

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10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Wonderful! That settles it then. They were actually intending to do surveillance on their wet markets. 

 

Every once in a while the Chinese do something really ridiculous.

Having a Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman state that they had no intention of violating Us airspace when there are thousands of people looking at the exact, real time direct violation, is right up their alley.

The winds aloft in the middle of winter are the most predictable of the entire year.

If you launch this thing west of the Aleutian Islands, it sure as hell is going to violate US and Canadian airspace.

 

Admittedly, this thing is in the stratosphere where the winds are much lighter than at air travel routes, but you're guaranteed the thing is going east.

 

More interesting would be to know if it is transmitting, and what. 

 

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“It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes. Affected by the Westerlies and with limited self-steering capability, the airship deviated far from its planned course. The Chinese side regrets the unintended entry of the airship into US airspace due to force majeure,” the spokesperson said in a statement.

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Hopefully we are hacking whatever its transmitting.  

 

Wonder if we do similar over China Nuke sites?   like those Silo farms they have been building.

 

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2021/11/a-closer-look-at-chinas-missile-silo-construction/

 

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2021/07/china-is-building-a-second-nuclear-missile-silo-field/

 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/06/30/china-nuclear-weapons-silos-arms-control/

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

“It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological, purposes. Affected by the Westerlies and with limited self-steering capability, the airship deviated far from its planned course. The Chinese side regrets the unintended entry of the airship into US airspace due to force majeure,” the spokesperson said in a statement.

  

 

And if you believe that I have a Huawei router to sell you. 

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7 minutes ago, TSOL said:

  

 

And if you believe that I have a Huawei router to sell you. 

This administration is a complete joke.  Our airspace has been violated.  Just shoot it down.  Recover the wreckage and determine its purpose.     

 

  https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-hell-shoot-down-chinese-spy-balloon-as-soon-as-hes-done-letting-it-spy

 

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19 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

This administration is a complete joke.  Our airspace has been violated.  Just shoot it down.  Recover the wreckage and determine its purpose.     

 

  https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-hell-shoot-down-chinese-spy-balloon-as-soon-as-hes-done-letting-it-spy

 

 

 

It's almost as if this administration is trying to bury us. 

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29 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

This administration is a complete joke.  Our airspace has been violated.  Just shoot it down.  Recover the wreckage and determine its purpose.     

 

  https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-hell-shoot-down-chinese-spy-balloon-as-soon-as-hes-done-letting-it-spy

 

Facts. we look so weak right now.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 You're funny.  All roads lead to Russia and Trump.  But China is hands off, right?

You say it's hands off China, I don't. 

 

Would you support the US defending Taiwan from China? 

 

I do. You don't support our effort to defend Ukraine. That's just truth. 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You say it's hands off China, I don't. 

 

Would you support the US defending Taiwan from China? 

 

I do. You don't support our effort to defend Ukraine. That's just truth. 

 

 

Would I support defending Taiwan?  Its a question I can't provide an unconditional yes or no answer to because the nature and implications of such a conflict are unknown.  For example, would you support Taiwan if it meant some loved ones, friends, or family, or perhaps yourself would die as a result of an armed conflict?  Given that, you might not be so enthusiastic.  Everything is relative and conditional in life.      

 

I support the Ukrainian people and their right to life and freedom.  But we're operating from a different set of assumptions and expectations.  For starters, you see Russian as 100% responsible for the conflict and the US as the white knight riding to the rescue while I assign responsibility on a more equitable level.  If you recall, the State department and CIA manufactured a coup of an elected President in 2014.  I expect many years from now historians will share my assessment. 

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3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Would I support defending Taiwan?  Its a question I can't provide an unconditional yes or no answer to because the nature and implications of such a conflict are unknown.  For example, would you support Taiwan if it meant some loved ones, friends, or family, or perhaps yourself would die as a result of an armed conflict?  Given that, you might not be so enthusiastic.  Everything is relative and conditional in life.      

 

I support the Ukrainian people and their right to life and freedom.  But we're operating from a different set of assumptions and expectations.  For starters, you see Russian as 100% responsible for the conflict and the US as the white knight riding to the rescue while I assign responsibility on a more equitable level.  If you recall, the State department and CIA manufactured a coup of an elected President in 2014.  I expect many years from now historians will share my assessment. 

We need to stop the invasion in America ... let Europe deal with corrupt Ukraine.

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They tracked it since Alaska!?!? And from there to Montana there was no safe place to take it down???

 

idiots 

Secretary Blinkin is such a softy

1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said:

Can't we just have MTG to shoot it down with her Jewish space laser?

Aren’t you worried trump is behind this

😂 🐑 

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8 hours ago, Tiberius said:

You say it's hands off China, I don't. 

 

Would you support the US defending Taiwan from China? 

 

I do. You don't support our effort to defend Ukraine. That's just truth. 

 

 


 

We don’t have a 70 year foreign policy pledge to defend it like Taiwan.  

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