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Just now, BillsFanNC said:

 

And this bolsters your argument of how the entire world wasn't watching us be embarrassed by the CCP how exactly?

 

:lol:


Oh no, a BALLOON floated over our country and was subsequently neutralized. The horror, the horror! 
 

I bet Trump would have vaporized it with his telepathic mind powers before deadlifting 750 pounds and running an iron man 

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Just now, Roundybout said:


Oh no, a BALLOON floated over our country and was subsequently neutralized. The horror, the horror! 
 

I bet Trump would have vaporized it with his telepathic mind powers before deadlifting 750 pounds and running an iron man 

 

ahh and there it is.  Deflection. And Trump.  Never change leftists.

 

That's enough time in the sandbox with you midwits for today.

 

Carry on.

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2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Oh no, a BALLOON floated over our country and was subsequently neutralized. The horror, the horror! 
 

I bet Trump would have vaporized it with his telepathic mind powers before deadlifting 750 pounds and running an iron man 

Why neutralize it?

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Just now, BillsFanNC said:

 

ahh and there it is.  Deflection. And Trump.  Never change leftists.

 

That's enough time in the sandbox with you midwits for today.

 

Carry on.


It’s not deflecting, it’s the exact same stance I’ve had all along. It’s a nothingburger that Trumpers are going to circlejerk over until the next shiny object gets dangled in front of their eyes. 

Just now, Doc said:

A spy balloon from a hostile foreign nation flies over America and gets shot down and lefties claim it's no big deal.  Yeah, it's not a cult...


We’ve tracked it for days. Not a threat. 

Just now, JDHillFan said:

Why neutralize it?


Good opportunity to analyze it further and see what Beijing has been up to. See if their tech is past 1994 yet. 

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4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

To analysis it and see how far behind us China is with the technology. 

 

...of the balloon material?  Because the "technology" would be vaporized once it hit earth, it anything survived the initial shooting down.

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3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

...of the balloon material?  Because the "technology" would be vaporized once it hit earth, it anything survived the initial shooting down.


Balloons don’t just plummet, the gas gets released fairly slowly. Bet there’s something left to look at.

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6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


To analysis it and see how far behind us China is with the technology. 

I hereby award you another TIBERIUS for this gem. Kudos!

Just now, Roundybout said:


Balloons don’t just plummet, the gas gets released fairly slowly. Bet there’s something left to look at.

Yeah, the F16’s or whatever jet was used probably just pricked it with a pin. Good thinking!!

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2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Pretty sad ending to this episode though.

 

Winnie-the-Pooh-Tigger-and-Piglet-cartoo

 

So Xi was in the balloon?

 

Just now, Roundybout said:

Balloons don’t just plummet, the gas gets released fairly slowly. Bet there’s something left to look at.

 

Bet it plummeted and there's nothing left of the hardware.

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26 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

If I had to sum things up, I'd say China came off looking stupid in all of this, they sent a giant camera attached to a balloon to spy on us, what are they a ***** cartoon? Seems like we knew about it, because how could we not, weren't worried about it seeing anything, I mean how hard is it to hide anything we want before the big slow ***** balloon gets overhead. We probably learned more by seeing where they were looking than they did actually doing it. More than that China doesn't exactly look great getting their hand caught in the cookie jar.

I have no idea whether this is a big deal, a little deal or somewhere in the middle, but it’s a good idea to remember that in September, 2001, the humble box cutter helped to change the world.  
 

What I do know is we’ll never know the full story here. 

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1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I have no idea whether this is a big deal, a little deal or somewhere in the middle, but it’s a good idea to remember that in September, 2001, the humble box cutter helped to change the world.  
 

What I do know is we’ll never know the full story here. 

 

Oh, it's a big deal.  The Admin has admitted it believes it was a spy balloon and as a result shot it down.  Again that it got as far as it did is the biggest issue and points to extreme incompetence.

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5 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I hereby award you another TIBERIUS for this gem. Kudos!

Yeah, the F16’s or whatever jet was used probably just pricked it with a pin. Good thinking!!


They’re not as far behind us as Russia, of course, but as someone who loves his country I can happily say we have the finest military this planet has ever seen. 

Just now, Doc said:

 

Oh, it's a big deal.  The Admin has admitted it believes it was a spy balloon and as a result shot it down.  Again that it got as far as it did is the biggest issue and points to extreme incompetence.


It’s a big deal to basement dwelling MAGA types still seething over the low unemployment numbers. 

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The leaders reviewed the threat profile of the Chinese stratospheric balloon and possible response options, and ultimately decided not to recommend taking it out kinetically, because of the risk to safety and security of people on the ground from the possible debris field. Pentagon leaders presented the options to President Joe Biden on Wednesday.

“Currently we assess that this balloon has limited additive value from an intelligence collection perspective over and above what the PRC can do through other means,” the senior defense official said. “Nevertheless we are taking all necessary steps to protect against foreign intelligence collection of sensitive information.” The official said the balloon does not pose a threat to civil aviation because of its altitude.

The military and executive branch assessed that the threat to civilian life was greater than the diplomatic and security benefits of shooting it down.



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CHINESE SPY BALLOON, SHOT DOWN. 

 

“Joe Biden did the right thing. After pretty much running through all of the options first, of course.

 

After spending the last 48 hours or so stonewalling and then dithering over what clearly appears to be a spy ballon from China, Biden ordered a strike on the craft — after it had completely transversed the US.”

 

https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2023/02/04/breaking-down-goes-spy-balloon-this-one-anyway-n528416

 

 

 

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Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

CHINESE SPY BALLOON, SHOT DOWN. 

 

“Joe Biden did the right thing. After pretty much running through all of the options first, of course.

 

After spending the last 48 hours or so stonewalling and then dithering over what clearly appears to be a spy ballon from China, Biden ordered a strike on the craft — after it had completely transversed the US.”

 

https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2023/02/04/breaking-down-goes-spy-balloon-this-one-anyway-n528416

 

 

 


Except the Pentagon said he wanted to shoot it down Wednesday and military officials said no. 

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1 minute ago, Roundybout said:


Yeah I would much rather have a President that launches a ballistic missile if his Diet Coke is late.

I didn’t think there could be anyone of simpler mind than Tiberius. I was horribly wrong. 

Let’s imagine that China, having shown the US to be unwilling to protect its airspace, now decides to send a jet every now and then. Shall the US let them? Why or why not?

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2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I didn’t think there could be anyone of simpler mind than Tiberius. I was horribly wrong. 

Let’s imagine that China, having shown the US to be unwilling to protect its airspace, now decides to send a jet every now and then. Shall the US let them? Why or why not?


Jets = threat 

 

Balloons = no threat 

1 minute ago, Doc said:

They tried to get him to make a decision but the stutter wouldn't let him get it out...


The Pentagon told him no, they could not shoot it down on Wednesday. 

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3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:


Let’s imagine that China, having shown the US to be unwilling to protect its airspace, now decides to send a jet every now and then. Shall the US let them? Why or why not?

 

Come on.

A combatant would be engaged immediately.

 

Anyway, I think the thing should have been shot down as soon as it entered US airspace, unless there was some intel benefit to watching it, and tapping its upload for whatever data it was transmitting.

 

In addition, doing the "kinetic" kill not only means the balloon and its payload, but also the remnants of a very small missile, or bullets or whatever else was used to puncture it.

 

All that aside, this thing flew over areas that a small plane could fly over at a couple thousand feet.

Not exactly a threat to security.

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8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


Except the Pentagon said he wanted to shoot it down Wednesday and military officials said no. 

 

 

That is what happened, congratulations.

 

Now realize that President Biden is their commander,

 

so any delay is still on his shoulders.

 

That's how it works.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

That is what happened, congratulations.

 

Now realize that President Biden is their commander,

 

so any delay is still on his shoulders.

 

That's how it works.

 

 

 


And he is prudent and listens to his advisors, great job!

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3 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Come on.

A combatant would be engaged immediately.

 

Anyway, I think the thing should have been shot down as soon as it entered US airspace, unless there was some intel benefit to watching it, and tapping its upload for whatever data it was transmitting.

 

In addition, doing the "kinetic" kill not only means the balloon and its payload, but also the remnants of a very small missile, or bullets or whatever else was used to puncture it.

 

All that aside, this thing flew over areas that a small plane could fly over at a couple thousand feet.

Not exactly a threat to security.

Who gains more benefit from the intel side?  If China decides to take another stab at the balloon run, maybe multiple balloons, what should the US do? Shoot them down as you suggest? Why then, but not now? 

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3 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


And he is prudent and listens to his advisors, great job!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/13/gates_stands_by_statement_that_biden_has_been_wrong_on_nearly_every_major_foreign_policy_question.html

 

And he has quite a record in foreign matters if you listen to this Obama cabinet member. Great job! America has never looked stronger!

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