Cray51 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, BananaB said: It’s been the issue for years and the keep addressing it but don’t get results I’ll be interested to see how Beane handles FA and the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: There is no way you can afford to pay 2 WRs #1 money. Every team in the NFL relies on a true #1 and a guy on a rookie deal. Look around and find me one team that pays 2 WRs #1 money. You won't find me one because there isn't one. Chargers, Bucs, Raiders, Chiefs last year. “Can’t afford” is nonsense owners want you to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: The only word I can use to describe the Bills performance today is "incompetent." That was one of the most putrid defensive performances I've ever seen from a McD team, at one of the worst moments imaginable. Dorsey trotted out the same boring vanilla BS that has barely been working since the Green Bay game. Diggs has a right to be angry, the talent on this team is being held back by poor coordinators who can't rise up to the challenge. The D-Line was horrifically bad as well, what a waste of picks. I've never been on the "fire the coaching staff" train but man it feels like a real shake up is needed. Absolutely pathetic attempt at a game by the Bills. Fire the coaching staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I’m gonna need a truck load of Mountain Dew to read all the things we should have done, and all the people who need to be fired! Don’t even get me started on all the Big Name FA’s we should sign. You know, the old guys who has a name you’ve heard. Top dollar old names! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Not much different, the oline is the issue, those players would help but not guarantee success. It’s true, even WR screens are dead before the ball is thrown. I think part of it is scheme but they’re never properly blocked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said: Give the Saints whatever they want for Payton I love what this team has been under McDermott and we owe him a great deal of gratitude for what he’s done…that being said, if we ended up with Peyton somehow I’d be happy. Also at the same time, 0 chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BananaB said: Pass was there, pass was dropped. One play, getting lucky on one play is not an offensive strategy. Throwing the ball long on third and two to the player who has the most drops is not a recipe for success. What do the analytics say? Which play has a better chance of success? Beasly underneath used to be almost automatic, that part of the game is gone and it’s a big reason we have been struggling. But keep dreaming the long ball will get us to the superbowl 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Our OL and RB's showed the ability every time they were given the chance to run and run well. They hurried Allen because they were blitzing DB's offf the edge. Something we seldom do, much like running the ball. I'm not saying Dawkins and Brown were great but they weren't the overall problem. I saw our O line beaten off the ball on almost half of Allen's drop backs. Remember the big Bengal DT that had a free rush right up the gut? The O line also had two holding calls on it. And I didn't think we ran the ball well today. My guess is that during the season our big runs were due more to teams focusing on Allen & Diggs then our innate ability to run the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Not much different, the oline is the issue, those players would help but not guarantee success. It does help when the defense did not have to worry at all about your running backs. At least with McCaffrey teams would have to take him into account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Our first bad, non-competitive game of the year. Bad timing for that. But "thank you" Josh and all, with all the adversity this year, it's amazing you had 14 wins. Much to build on, and some things to fix. When is the draft? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: Tell that to Belichick. You need good coaches on both sides of the ball. It doesn't matter with OC or DC for coach. Yeah Belichick is an extreme outlier in that he’s historically micro managed both sides of the ball. Plus sans Brady he’s hardly a coach you would point to as being extremely successful, eh? And I’m also not saying DC’s have never had success nor won Super Bowls. But this is an offense driven league and you have a decisive advantage if you’ve got a strong OC who can’t be poached because he’s the guy in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: All I know is Dan Quinn is absolutely schooling Kyle Shannhan today the right coordinator means a lot staffing changes are just a start In order to really turn this defense around you’d need to find a former HC that is looking for a way back. A defensive specialist like we had with Schwartz. The problem is our HC is a former DC and this guy is going to want to keep the thing looking a certain way. I want an overhaul of the Defensive philosophy from top to bottom and I want Fraizer gone tomorrow 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said: Yeah I think so. His D can work with pressure but it hasn’t materialized, which is Beane’s fault. So you’re now forced to find a D scheme that can work with the players we have rather than getting the best DC and trying to force our pieces to work in their scheme. Forcing bad/good pieces into good/bad schemes was the recipe during the drought years. I just don't see a good outcome with it. I think we failed on the DL and it will negatively effect us on both ends. Coaching and Talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: In order to really turn this defense around you’d need to find a former HC that is looking for a way back. A defensive specialist like we had with Schwartz. The problem is our HC is a former DC and this guy is going to want to keep the thing looking a certain way. I want an overhaul of the Defensive philosophy from top to bottom and I want Fraizer gone tomorrow Schwartz was good but even he had a CB driven defense. When we had injuries at CB Schwartz had problems. He would have had problems keeping this defense together this year. We needed White to be White and Poyer to be Poyer and some others to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: Chargers, Bucs, Raiders, Chiefs last year. “Can’t afford” is nonsense owners want you to believe. The Chiefs literally let Hill walk because they wouldn't pay him. Chiefs didn't even have a WR with a $5 million cap hit this year. MVS was the highest at $4.8 million. Not them. The Raiders top 2 WRs made had a cap hit of $16 million combined this year. Nope, not them. Chargers yes...Bucs yes. Look what happened to them. The correct model is an elite 1st rounder on a rookie deal paired with a legit high priced #1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, ngbills said: It does help when the defense did not have to worry at all about your running backs. At least with McCaffrey teams would have to take him into account. He wouldn’t look half as good running behind our line or the crappy running blocking schemes we employ… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Maine-iac said: Schwartz was good but even he had a CB driven defense. When we had injuries at CB Schwartz had problems. He would have had problems keeping this defense together this year. We needed White to be White and Poyer to be Poyer and some others to step up. Poyer is gone, white looks like a #2 now and this defense is going to look very different personnel wise next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, CSBill said: Our first bad, non-competitive game of the year. Bad timing for that. But "thank you" Josh and all, with all the adversity this year, it's amazing you had 14 wins. Much to build on, and some things to fix. When is the draft? I’m not here for morale victories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Two things we should all agree on 1. The Bengals would have kicked our asses in week 17 2. The Dolphins would have won last week with a healthy Tua 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Poyer is gone, white looks like a #2 now and this defense is going to look very different personnel wise next year I hope it does because the stats on this defense is fools gold. This defense can't stop a playoff offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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