chongli Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: Same boat here. Either don’t play the game at all or forfeit at this point. Id rather go into the playoffs on normal schedule as the #2/3 seed than emotionally AND physically exhausted on little rest. Then the Bills probably won't get the bye week to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 It's interesting to see that ESPN has completely removed this game from the Playoff Machine. You can't even hypothetically see what would have been what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, boyst said: i'd rather take the forfeit than risk playing an extra week and the wear and tear while everyone else rests. There won't be a forfeit. The NFL wouldn't want egg on its face for forcing one team to take the loss because of an injury like this. There either will be a tie, double win, or no contest declared. Plus, Cincy would not accept a win by foreit. KC, if they had any balls, wouldn't accept the number 1 seed this way either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 28 minutes ago, dakrider said: The game can't be replayed without disrupting the entire rest of the league. So there is no game. Teams will simply have to go with the records they have. So if KC wins on Sunday, they get the #1 seed. If KC loses and Bills win, Bills get to keep #1 seed. If KC and Bills lose and Cinci wins, Cinci gets #1 seed. And if all 3 of these teams lose on Sunday, then Bills also keep #1 seed. There simply is no other way. I think this is essentially the best way. Outside of this, Bills forfeit the Cinci game, do the best they can with the backups against NE and use the NE game as a bye for the starters for physical rest/ailments and proceed from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 33 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said: They could base records on a 16 game schedule, rather than the 17 game schedule? Raiders are out of the playoffs, so their game doesn't matter. Just have KC take Week 18 off and have Buffalo play New England. If Buffalo wins, they get the 1 seed. If they lose, it goes to KC. I'm not factoring Cincy simply because they are 1 loss behind both teams. Have them play Baltimore for the division. Interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 minutes ago, chongli said: There won't be a forfeit. The NFL wouldn't want egg on its face for forcing one team to take the loss because of an injury like this. There either will be a tie, double win, or no contest declared. Plus, Cincy would not accept a win by foreit. KC, if they had any balls, wouldn't accept the number 1 seed this way either. I actually think a double win would be the most fair decision possibly. It essentially keeps everyone at the same place they were entering the week, but it also keeps all the final week games relevant. The teams with the most at stake would be the ones fighting for the playoffs altogether or games where divisions were on the line. Obviously this helps the Bills compared to a tie, loss, or just not counting it at all, but in my mind keeping things in the standings as they were for these teams which were both on win streaks maintains more of the playoff structure than screws it up. Kansas City being gifted the #1 spot, along with the Bills and Bengals being punished for happening to be the 2 teams on the field for such an incident, is a deeply unfair "solution" which makes the final week of games just odd to play with. I really hope that's what is decided, and then of course that Hamlin shows some very positive signs and everyone is able to process this accordingly and move forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I’m guessing the league will treat the game as a tie. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Huge LOL at the thought of a solution where KC ends up getting 2 bye weeks. Absolutely not a chance. These solutions would be slightly different depending on a lot of things. What if we were a game up on KC? What if we had been winning or tied when this happened? What if we were in the position of the Ravens? It is a genuine black swan event not only in the medical/injury sense, but in its impact to the overall structure of the game and the playoffs. Assigning a double win, allowing the final week to go as scheduled (some games moved to Monday or even Tuesday), and then going from there is the most logical and sensible solution to me. Let tie breakers handle whatevershakes out depending on that in the last week for seeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 7 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: I'm not the one suggesting JA is going to be lights out good due to the fact his grandmother died, and he could be again due to Hamlin's injury. It was a weird statement to make. fair enough Myself personally, I think its possible in Allens case that the game itself becomes somewhat secondary to matters of life and death. As it should, allowing Josh Allen to play the game devoid of emotion. How a surgeon doing an operation might feel. My take on it anyway. Sorry If I offended you BIGFOOT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, chongli said: I don't think there will be games this weekend. I think the NFL's official statement that the game won't be played this week also included a statement about no changes to the games this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 The NFL would be smart to wait until after the Saturday and Sunday games happen, then decide what to do with this game. At that point, we'll have a complete picture of the implications of their actions. The #1 seed should not just be granted to any team without knowing full implications. 12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m guessing the league will treat the game as a tie. Done. So, penalize both teams because one of the players got injured? Doesn't really seem too fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Coin toss. One W, one L, just as if the game was played. Players determine the outcome (One team flips, one calls it in the air), nothing standings-wise is altered and nobody needs to relive the trauma. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Rigotz said: So, penalize both teams because one of the players got injured? Doesn't really seem too fair to me. Fair? Neither is what happened last night. The league isn’t going to just give someone a win. Not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, The Red King said: Coin toss. One W, one L, just as if the game was played. Players determine the outcome (One team flips, one calls it in the air), nothing standings-wise is altered and nobody needs to relive the trauma. Yes, another on team coin flip! Its actually the fairest way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I read somewhere that if tied with the same record Bills and Bengals would have the same conference record and same common opponents records. So if it comes down to strength of victory, our Rams and Bears games drag the Bills down below Cinci. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb2590 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 yep on the coin flip -- im not sure that there can be another option that results in less complaints from any fan base short of them actually finishing this game, which i doubt. definitely better than intentionally giving one team a Win or Loss or both Ties (which hurts both teams) otherwise get rid of the bye for the 1 seed in the AFC, and add an 8th playoff team, effectively getting rid of that huge advantage the 1 seed has since its tough to say which of the top 3 should get it right now. plus the nfl gets an extra game to make up for this one that gets cancelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 42 minutes ago, chongli said: There won't be a forfeit. The NFL wouldn't want egg on its face for forcing one team to take the loss because of an injury like this. There either will be a tie, double win, or no contest declared. Plus, Cincy would not accept a win by foreit. KC, if they had any balls, wouldn't accept the number 1 seed this way either. the way of the mighty dollar stands between this and reality. backwards first: KC wouldn't care. there isn't going to be an asterisk by their #1 seed and they won't care. their worthless fanbase would believe it was desrved, too. cincy would gladly accept a forfeit of this - they don't want the injury but they have nothing to lose and after next weekend only the possibility to gain a 1st.. still they don't want to risk an injury. the nfl won't have a choice to take a forfeit if both teams and players say "no." and the media fallout is already radioactive against them right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I have said 100 times the last 18 hours, I don't care about win, loss, or tie. Move on. Playing this game doesn't make sense. Take the L, or tie, or don't count it, whatever. I will say that SoS makes no sense for the 1 seed where we stand now. The only difference is this one game due to extreme circumstance where a guy died and was brought back to life. Those two teams hold the head to heads over KC. I think you likely hold 1. Buffalo 2. KC 3. Cincinnati assuming all three win next week There is no positives or negatives given to any team. If Buffalo loses, go ahead and move them to the 3 seed. If KC loses, CIN moves to the 2. It is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 48 minutes ago, chongli said: Then the Bills probably won't get the bye week to rest. they can rest starters against the patriots if they knew this game already had a result of a tie, loss, forfeiture, or cancelled game. that's what is ridiculous. they should just, and for our benefit decide the game and we rest our starters on sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, boyst said: they can rest starters against the patriots if they knew this game already had a result of a tie, loss, forfeiture, or cancelled game. that's what is ridiculous. they should just, and for our benefit decide the game and we rest our starters on sunday. Not true. If Buf loses/lost they would be tied with Cincy. If the Bills beat the Pats and Cincy loses to BAL, CIN drops to #3 seed and BUF gets #1 or 2 depending on the KC game. If the Bills lose to the Pats they are locked into #3 no matter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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