djp14150 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Andy1 said: This kid has some raw talent but he needs to mature and needs to gets out of NYC. So much of a qb success depends on the fit with the team. Maybe Pete Carroll can make something of him in Seattle. They could sign him as a backup and develop him. i think of it goes on the Jets. there was QB butt plug from a decade ago. He was drafted at 4 iirc Wilson has talent. He needs a different location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 The Jets and their fans deserve every bit of this. I hope they are just good enough to fluctuate from 7/10 to 9/8 for the next 10 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 I mean, I think we all can see the writing on the wall. But Jay Glazer saying "expect them to move on from Zach Wilson" isn't exactly confirmation. He's just pontificating like all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Please point to what Wilson has done in the NFL that earns that belief, other than being drafted high? He's been a colassal bust on the field and in the locker room Patriots hopefully. He needs to grow up. But he is only what 23 or so. He was way overdrafted to begin with. The kid wasn't great in the slightest at BYU. And the Jets took him with the second pick. Someone will give him another shot. But he needs to realize that its a job and not a way to pick up chicks. He is always laughing and smiling. Need to take it serious and become an adult. Picking QB's is not the Jets specialty. They have taken Hackenberg, Darnold and now Wilson. The organization has been garbage for years. Salah looks to be a decent coach. But they need to get the QB position right. Mike White is better then Wilson. But he is fragile ala Rob Johnson. Skinny QB's don't last even in today's NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, 97bills said: And now the jets are in the same boat buffalo was all those years, good defense and decent supporting cast. 8-9 9-8 just good enough we’re you have to trade way up to get a QB. But you can’t give up draft one till you get it right. That’s one thing I hated about Buffalo they didn’t really try to trade up and get a good prospect. I have sympathy for the fans. I live in the heart of Jet country. These poor souls have been beaten down. By the way, my prayers are with the people in the Buffalo area dealing with this storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, 97bills said: And now the jets are in the same boat buffalo was all those years, good defense and decent supporting cast. 8-9 9-8 just good enough we’re you have to trade way up to get a QB. But you can’t give up draft one till you get it right. That’s one thing I hated about Buffalo they didn’t really try to trade up and get a good prospect. thr issue in buffalo was coach/ gm stability they traded for Bledsoe they drafted Losman late 1st and Edwards in 2nd Fitz EJ they drafted mid 1st in weak QB Tyrod they did not use top 5 picks on QB the jets trade up in 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Cray51 said: Bills should bring him in to backup. Absolutely yes if avail for backup $$. Fixer upper, and flip for draft capital down the road 4 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: Terrible organization. They need another full rebuild, starting with the front office. Maybe Frazier will get an interview there. Full rebuild? No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: He needs to grow up. But he is only what 23 or so. He was way overdrafted to begin with. The kid wasn't great in the slightest at BYU. And the Jets took him with the second pick. Someone will give him another shot. But he needs to realize that its a job and not a way to pick up chicks. He is always laughing and smiling. Need to take it serious and become an adult. Picking QB's is not the Jets specialty. They have taken Hackenberg, Darnold and now Wilson. The organization has been garbage for years. Salah looks to be a decent coach. But they need to get the QB position right. Mike White is better then Wilson. But he is fragile ala Rob Johnson. Skinny QB's don't last even in today's NFL. Yes, but you have to have some ability that can be developed. Josh Allen had monster athleticism. What does Zach Wilson have? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElMarko Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 The two biggest bust (drafted high) QBs have had their best games against the Bills. Ryan Leaf and Zach Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 53 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Darnold had neither the receivers or the run game (or defence) Wilson had. Things might have turned out better for him in NY. Wilson is a bust and is not fixable imo. Almost forgot (how could I). Darnold also had to deal with Adam Gase. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, 97bills said: And now the jets are in the same boat buffalo was all those years, good defense and decent supporting cast. 8-9 9-8 just good enough we’re you have to trade way up to get a QB. But you can’t give up draft one till you get it right. That’s one thing I hated about Buffalo they didn’t really try to trade up and get a good prospect. They tried to trade up in 2004 for Big Ben but Jax I believe wouldn't budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Mark Vader said: Disagree. Wilson has talent, he just needs the right guidance and coaching. Being drafted by one of the worst run organizations in the NFL did not help. Yeah, I still think he's got a real chance. Not a great chance, but still a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, I still think he's got a real chance. Not a great chance, but still a chance. It was a mistake that he left Brigham Young for the 2021 draft. He would have benefitted from one more season in college. I know his draft stock was high, and he was set to make millions, and I'm sure that was why he declared. He does have talent, and if he really wants this, he needs to change himself and get with the right program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Good. QB purgatory continues. What would really be good news would be if the Pats* continued to roll with Mac & Cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Get him on the phone Beane. We need a 4th string QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 I'd consider him for a backup PS dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Gardner Minshew is a UFA next season. I could see him going to the Jets, or Pats*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 as someone else pointed out, they really just need a game manager with their roster. 1 stud rookie WR, another stud rookie RB, good defense. They could get a FA QB game manager and draft one with their first if someone is there who they like, if not, (hopefully they do and reach), they could take another good 1st round player. They are not that far off from playoff contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said: He was way overdrafted to begin with. The kid wasn't great in the slightest at BYU. And the Jets took him with the second pick. Josh Allen wasn't great at Wyoming in the slightest either. Players are picked on potential. I didn't think Wilson was an elite prospect but you gotta' take chances at QB. The Jets otherwise talented roster is proof that you can literally waste two top 3 overall picks on QB's in a 4 year span and still stockpile talent. The most overrated personnel chip in football is a #1 pick NOT used on a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 51 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Gardner Minshew is a UFA next season. I could see him going to the Jets, or Pats*. I cringe saying this but he could be good in Hackets system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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